2019 4frnt Renegade Changes?

[whyturn]

The Elan Hoji and EHP I had looked good. The white room renegades 2x 186 and a 196 were bomber. Last years ren was a fail for me.

Not Willing to commit to current renegades and will just wait it out. Last year I went on faith and am learning to wait. I have a kusala which is close and slashy. So I look forward to hearing reviews from OG users

[pfluffenmeister]

The Elan Hoji and EHP I had looked good. The white room renegades 2x 186 and a 196 were bomber. Last years ren was a fail for me.

Not Willing to commit to current renegades and will just wait it out. Last year I went on faith and am learning to wait. I have a kusala which is close and slashy. So I look forward to hearing reviews from OG users

So which version skis the closest to the Kusala?
Love my Kusala and pray it never breaks or wanders.

… and which do you prefer?

[whyturn]

So which version skis the closest to the Kusala?
Love my Kusala and pray it never breaks or wanders.

… and which do you prefer?
I think the EHP was close and the 186 renegade was loose as well. But I feel like Kusala has larger sweet spot and it’s just better in light pow. But I had some great days on old 186 and 196. That is why I wanted 191.

[tuco]

Anyone see any change in quality/longevity between the Elan pressed 4frnts and the Quebec made ones? My elan made Hojis have been tough as nails, but I'm considering a new pair.

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As a dude with 193 EHP with less than 20 days on them, and these type delam issues, I would definitely not call Elans construction 'tough as nails'!.

[altacoup]

That's a bummer. I've had a bunch of skis out of that factory and all have proven bro durable. Such a good ski wish they would bring it back. I'm sure you've got a technique to fix it


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[tuco]

Yeah, big time bummer. Even though I only used them ~20 days, the ski was out of warranty by the time I noticed it. One of the downsides of a quiver I guess. I got the feeling if 4frnt would have had some leftover EHPs they would have replaced them. I didn't want the Hoji as a replacement anyway. I will give 4frnt huge props for hooking me up w/ base material to fix it. Just need time and smoke a huge bowl of gumption. The fix is similar to mtlions rebase on his volkl Sanouks.
I also had some im103's fall apart on me, although I think those were from too brittle of sidewall material, these EHPs seem to be not properly wetted out during layup

[altacoup]

Those old head monsters were great skis but probably the easiest ski to break I've ever skied.


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[Island Bay]

The man can ski!

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1iDLO7F17A/

[VON]

anyone know the mount point on this year's 191?

[reckless toboggan]

anyone know the mount point on this year's 191?

Same as with almost all the other years, I would assume it's on the top.

[Mustonen]

Same as with almost all the other years, I would assume it's on the top.

Wasn’t on the top on the OG....

[reckless toboggan]

Wasn’t on the top on the OG....

4frnt is going downhill fast.

[Mustonen]

4frnt is going downhill fast.

That’s why we love them in spite of their recent missteps.

[reckless toboggan]

That’s why we love them in spite of their recent missteps.

Exactly.

[Hughwindlip]

Stumbled on the thread last night and bought some 191s...

Love my green dark blue 186s - excited get the new lighter setup..planning on mounting with Salomon MTN pins and pink pomocas - both are in hand. Boom!




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[Tailwind]

I have 186 rens (green and white) with Mtn’s and Pomoca skins. It’s pretty incredible.

Stumbled on the thread last night and bought some 191s...

Love my green dark blue 186s - excited get the new lighter setup..planning on mounting with Salomon MTN pins and pink pomocas - both are in hand. Boom!




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[skisurfmirth]

As a dude with 193 EHP with less than 20 days on them, and these type delam issues, I would definitely not call Elans construction 'tough as nails'!.

That is shitty. I've got 150ish days on my Hojis. Loads of rock strikes, 1000s of uphill steps and hours of smashing around in a CFR rack on my sled. They show their age but no massive delam like you have had to deal with.

[Lindahl]

I also had some im103's fall apart on me, although I think those were from too brittle of sidewall material, these EHPs seem to be not properly wetted out during layup

The cores of the im103s were two GS cores stapled together. Likely the problem?

[tuco]

The cores of the im103s were two GS cores stapled together. Likely the problem?

Nah, brittle sidewall material. It was a known issue. Head warrantied a bunch of them from 03-04 model.

[Brown56Eliz]

hi,
Looking for Dog Harness. Can you please share any dog harness for adult dog?

[pfluffenmeister]

hi,
Looking for Dog Harness. Can you please share any dog harness for adult dog?

We'll need more information about your dog.
What breed, how heavy?
What kind of walking does your dog prefer, flat and open parks or extreme downhill descents?

Soooo many variables.

[nickel]

can't make accurate recommendation without naked pics of dog.

[whyturn]

Is your dog a charger or more Jibby and jumpy. Can he back up switch or Ollie off the couch?

[1000-oaks]

hi,
Looking for Dog Harness. Can you please share any dog harness for adult dog?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32418561676.html

[reckless toboggan]

hi,
Looking for Dog Harness. Can you please share any dog harness for adult dog?

I might have a harness to share.

What's your dog's BSL?