Just a thought...

[Dexter Rutecki]

I couldn't help but wonder if the term "wide stance" or "athletic stance" isn't as dated as uphill\downhill ski.

"Wide stance" in sport has mostly been a one dimensional concept- having the feet hip to shoulder width apart in the vertical plane bisecting the body front to back and the ground beneath the athlete "flat", or basically perpendicular to the bisecting plane. In this position the femurs are "A-framed", or forming a pyramid with the ground. It is possible to maintain a triangulated relationship while turning on a ski slope, but it's highly undesirable (puts both skis on inside edge).

Based on femur position during intense inclination\angulation (when properly executed), the femurs are more parallel, making the "stance" in the traditional vertical plane "narrow". If you were to raise the skier perpendicular to the slope without changing the leg or foot positions (i.e. eliminate the inclination), the skier would be standing on one leg with the other foot mid-air at knee level, very close to the knee of the extended leg. Changing nothing other than the angle of the "ground" the skier is in a narrow stance in the bisected shoulder-hip plane described above.

Since so many dimensions are now in play with upper level skiing, maybe "stance" needs to give way to "dynamic foot\leg position" or some other reference term. For me, the word "stance" is a rather static term anyway.

[phUnk]

That sure is a lot of words right there.

[BakerBoy]

Isn't that a direct quote off Epicski?

What's gorilla steeze fall under? I found myself doin' the gorilla quite more than I thought I would last year, mostly unknowingly. Whoops?

[Dexter Rutecki]

Isn't that a direct quote off Epicski?

Hush!!
So you read that crap too? It's absolutely incredible how much they analyze terminology--not skiing, just the names for what people do when they ski. Wicked, wicked retahded.

You should figure out some way to analyze the gorilla steeze like that, and post it over there.

[FNG]

I think using the word steeze over there would be a dead give-away and result in an insta-flame.

[BakerBoy]

Hush!!
So you read that crap too? It's absolutely incredible how much they analyze terminology--not skiing, just the names for what people do when they ski. Wicked, wicked retahded.

You should figure out some way to analyze the gorilla steeze like that, and post it over there.

I try to understand how old people think (especially old east coasters), and it continues to blow my mind. It's good though -- people like them let people like me get paid to ski.

[Sphinx]

What's wrong with analyzing your stance? It's the best way to improve.

[FNG]

What's wrong with analyzing your stance? It's the best way to improve.

Quick! Somebody get this man to Boner City Hospital fast! He's having an epicski attack!

[Arty50]

A skiing post in the Padded Room and political talk in Ski/Snowboard. Excellent work Dex!

I'll bite...

As for the athletic stance, it's more of a position from which you base all other movement. If you merely stayed in an athletic stance, you'd never move. But think about once you do move. Stand with your feet together and lean your upper body in any direction. Notice how easily you fall over. Now stand in an athletic stance and lean your upper body in any direction. Notice how you can lean further (especially sideways) without falling over. Getting your feet apart allows you to increase your ability to balance dramatically, since you're spreading your weight over a larger area and using both feet more equally. And that brings us to modern skiing, where using both edges is vitally important. A wider stance gives you better control over both legs/feet and allows you to be more versatile. A narrow stance is rather limiting in comparison.

[Tippster]

Hush!!
So you read that crap too? It's absolutely incredible how much they analyze terminology--not skiing, just the names for what people do when they ski. Wicked, wicked retahded.

You should figure out some way to analyze the gorilla steeze like that, and post it over there.

Whew. I was getting worried that you'd written more than 2 paragraphs without mentioning Bush or the Republicans ONCE....

BTW - it's still always about the A-Frame, and always will be.

[Dexter Rutecki]

Arty just got expelled from TGRland.

[Arty50]

But what will I do with all this free time?

Nooooo...I take it all back. I love Stein and his psuedo mono steeze.

[Dexter Rutecki]

Damn, man, you weren't expelled for endorsing the wide track, you were expelled for the Epic manner in which you dissected the mechanics. Get over there and get it out of your system, you PSIA lover.
It's OK, JONG a few people and post a few pictures of you pointing at shit and you'll be readmitted.

[Yeti]

ttips proverb: "it's all about the dance, not the stance".

[Arty50]

Get over there and get it out of your system, you PSIA lover.

Professional Shitters In Action?

[Dexter Rutecki]

Parallel Shitkicking Integrating Algorithms.

[ill-advised strategy]

I couldn't help but wonder if the term "wide stance" or "athletic stance" isn't as dated as uphill\downhill ski.

"Wide stance" ....blah blah blah.... bisecting ......blah blah..... highly undesirable

Hmmm...so what you're saying is that if you're BI you tend to have a wide stance..that is highly undesirable.