Getting laid off blows

[Skidog]

FTR, he can say the same, as I have heard on numerous occasions that he's a nice guy IRL.

So you're both douchebags online and are nice to mags in person? Yay?

Sorry for the layoff. Good luck on the job hunt.

This is probably true.

Thanks. I don't know if I'd say the company is shitting the bed, but it's sure not Rosey. I was told it was not performance related, but who knows. Never had a bad review or missed a yearly raise. Hit all expected targets. The focus is likely more dev, but you still need a pretty solid systems guy typically. The new investor might already have a guy they like that could get up to speed. The new investors are kinda calling this shots. Risk is 100% on them for sure. I hear tell the deal states if no profit is turned in 1.5years they will be liquidated.
Maybe it's for the better for me, but I probably would've gone down with the ship given the chance.

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[Danno]

Maybe it's for the better for me, but I probably would've gone down with the ship given the chance.

Totally get it, nobody wants this to happen. But here's the way I look at it. Six months from now, maybe a year, maybe 2, you'll find yourself in a good situation, at a job you like and are happy to have. And you'd never find yourself in that situation in the future if not for this layoff. So it will work out for the better.

[sb]

At least you are getting laid, amirite?

[Skidog]

At least you are getting laid, amirite?

Does my hand count? 😀

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[sb]

Well, if nothing else you will have a firm handshake for the interview.

[skifishbum]

i dont do interview handshakes
you need to hire me and i gets paid fore you touch me
other than that im at work
and i really doubts ill ski a hundy this season

[Skidog]

i dont do interview handshakes
you need to hire me and i gets paid fore you touch me
other than that im at work
and i really doubts ill ski a hundy this season

Wow for realz? You not getting a hundy is quite shocking. Least you got a job 😀

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[gravitylover]

Getting laid off without notice is tough and the situation will get better. The upside of the current labor market is employers are having challenges filling jobs and have been making offers to geezers over fifty like me. It is OK to leave dates off of your resume and keep the recruiter guessing to get an interview.

The only offers I've seen are part time with no bennies, sometimes one will even pay more than it costs to take the job. I've gotten hosed a couple of times because on my resume there are only 2 jobs for the previous 20 years. I've been told, more than once, that there is no way I could possibly have the variety of experiences necessary to thrive in ... environment because my work experiences don't support versatility or something similar. The bimbo at the state unemployment office even told me to make up things so I would have more jobs on the resume and tell people to give me references if they're contacted.

The total healthcare insurance group plan costs also go WAY up when there are lots of people over age 45 in the coverage group. I suspect that's another reason why a permanent gig is so tough for us geezers to land these days. My wife was a HR benefits specialist for one of the groups at IBM then got moved over to Toshiba when they bought that line of business from IBM. Toshiba laid her off last December right after she finished all the heavy lifting for their 2018 annual enrollment.. Had to cancel my Utah ski trip because of that. First world problem.

I suspect we'll both be hopping from contract job to contract job until social security kicks in. I ended up selling cameras at Circuit City for a few months at the end of my longest good job dry spell after the dot com crash and I'll do retail again if that's what has to be done to pay the bills.

There just aren't any full time permanent gigs for anyone over ~45 anymore other than in select spots and even those will dry up soon. Those retail jobs you say you'll fall back on are already gone, there's nothing full time and nothing pays enough to be worth making the effort to get to.

[Marshall Tucker]

Question, for those with dependents that have been down this road, how did healthcare work out? I've (noc on wood) never missed a paycheck and have built up very good savings, but have always been W-2 and beleive in being ready for what may come. Have dependent family/kids, near as I can tell any health insurance policy runs $1k? $750 ? a month...

[Mazderati]

Question, for those with dependents that have been down this road, how did healthcare work out? I've (noc on wood) never missed a paycheck and have built up very good savings, but have always been W-2 and beleive in being ready for what may come. Have dependent family/kids, near as I can tell any health insurance policy runs $1k? $750 ? a month...

Lots of variables in pricing healthcare but $1k/month sounds very cheap for a family.

[SumJongGuy]

There just aren't any full time permanent gigs for anyone over ~45 anymore other than in select spots and even those will dry up soon. Those retail jobs you say you'll fall back on are already gone, there's nothing full time and nothing pays enough to be worth making the effort to get to.

That's true that automation and AI are replacing people in the historically easy hire arenas. There's still part time work pretty available. Just about every restaurant and big box store I go to have help wanted signs up. When you live in a state with only 6 weeks of very low unemployment benefits taking two or three part time jobs becomes a necessity rather than a burden that costs more than it's worth. I remember once getting 18 MONTHS of unemployment after the dot com crash. Now I could only get 6 weeks tops so I'm not passing on anything remotely doable over $10/hour if I lose my current gig.

[jackstraw]

Ah, that sucks skidog, but just a bump in the road eh.

Most everyone has been laid off at least once if you've been working for 20yrs or so and it does suck.

Twice for me, but luckily I was young with no reponsibilities. First company went under and the second one in Taos he "laid me off", but actually canned my ass because I gave the ducks water. Imagine that...me giving ducks water because they didn't have any. That's a whole nother story. I still hate those idiots with ducks on the mesa.

[4matic]

Question, for those with dependents that have been down this road, how did healthcare work out? I've (noc on wood) never missed a paycheck and have built up very good savings, but have always been W-2 and beleive in being ready for what may come. Have dependent family/kids, near as I can tell any health insurance policy runs $1k? $750 ? a month...

You could try running the numbers on your state exchange if you have one.

[iceman]

I was just talking to this guy doing some work here he pays $1K/mo with a $6K deductible just for him and his wife

[GeezerSteve]

^ ^ ^ That's at or a bit below the mean in WA or OR. Add kids and it goes way the fuck up. HC coverage is the big wild card for self-employed/consultant until you hit 65. Sad there isn't a 55+ y.o. self-employed/unemployed Medicare buy-in option.

[skifishbum]

Wow for realz? You not getting a hundy is quite shocking. Least you got a job ��

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aint beens to alta to take a lap on the new supremes
nor ups the kesslers and thats me happy place
havin a lot of work in a low tide season
allowed bbi road trip fundages
and i may just ski or fish with a 100 e-fuckos
this year
"which is nice"
ski ya high boy
if i aint fishin

[SumJongGuy]

^ ^ ^ That's at or a bit below the mean in WA or OR. Add kids and it goes way the fuck up. HC coverage is the big wild card for self-employed/consultant until you hit 65. Sad there isn't a 55+ y.o. self-employed/unemployed Medicare buy-in option.

We were shopping plans when my wife was laid off then starting a new temp job. Until she got a temp job with good bens we were looking at taking my insanely high deduct plan for myself and her and putting the kids on the ACA because it was legally doable based on our other metrics. Now her temp job changed to a different vendor with good long term perm possibility.. but even shittier benefits.

[Skidog]

aint beens to alta to take a lap on the new supremes
nor ups the kesslers and thats me happy place
havin a lot of work in a low tide season
allowed bbi road trip fundages
and i may just ski or fish with a 100 e-fuckos
this year
"which is nice"
ski ya high boy
if i aint fishin

Lol if the snow allows you to even get to high boy. 😀

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[evdog]

he's honest. If you get laid off you should understand why. Is it because you suck (a layoff round that's underperformers/fuckups) because your business unit is dead (a round that's one unit) or is it because the companys shitting the bed (a layoff round of previous high performers - this is a couple rounds down the line usually). If you care about your career - fix that shit. Or just be a victim.

If new investors are involved it could just be the never-ending quest to cut costs. Those who make the decisions don't always know or care what everyone contributed or what the job entails and just expect that those who are left can pick up the pieces. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Some employers just plain suck at communicating, too.

[Skidog]

If new investors are involved it could just be the never-ending quest to cut costs. Those who make the decisions don't always know or care what everyone contributed or what the job entails and just expect that those who are left can pick up the pieces. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Some employers just plain suck at communicating, too.

This is what it appears to be, but ya never know, maybe I do suck. Reviews would tell you different.

I'm not psyched to be re entering the job market at 46 that's for sure. I'll figure something out.

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[reckless toboggan]

I bet Bobby Stainless will be hiring someone to run his new gun shop...you should pm him.

[DBdude]

I'm not psyched to be re entering the job market at 46 that's for sure. I'll figure something out.

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I really like contracting. Being freed from office politics is nice. Nobody gives a shit what a contractor thinks and no one will tell you shit. You get your assignments/projects, and meet your dead lines

it is liberating

I didn't have a gig yesterday, and I got one today...

I don't know if I can be part of a "team" again. Offices suck... there is always some fucking tool bag trying to make points at other peoples expense

[Skidog]

I really like contracting. Being freed from office politics is nice. Nobody gives a shit what a contractor thinks and no one will tell you shit. You get your assignments/projects, and meet your dead lines

it is liberating

I didn't have a gig yesterday, and I got one today...

I don't know if I can be part of a "team" again. Offices suck... there is always some fucking tool bag trying to make points at other peoples expense

Oh I'm for sure considering going this route. Time will tell.

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[4matic]

When the PE partners owned us we referred to it as a hostage situation. If we didn’t bring them enough money every quarter they would shoot a few hostages.

[wyeaster]

When the PE partners owned us we referred to it as a hostage situation. If we didn’t bring them enough money every quarter they would shoot a few hostages.

such a tragedy