Build my new bike!

[phUnk]

Maybe I'm just a cupcake, but I've ridden everything from XT to Deore to Novatec to Acera to no-name crap on a ten-year-old cross bike and never had a hub problem. My Shimano Acera hubs lasted nine years of commuting and five trips to Burning Man, all I ever did was drip some Tri-Flow in every once in a while, and they still worked fine when I sold the bike.

Pipe down, cupcake!

[funkendrenchman]

Maybe I'm just a cupcake, but I've ridden everything from XT to Deore to Novatec to Acera to no-name crap on a ten-year-old cross bike and never had a hub problem. My Shimano Acera hubs lasted nine years of commuting and five trips to Burning Man, all I ever did was drip some Tri-Flow in every once in a while, and they still worked fine when I sold the bike.

Talk to someone who rides DH or jumps off things quite often and I guarantee you they have had a hub problem. Right now my front hub has a bit of play and my rear hub is making a funny dragging sound. One is XT, one is Powertools... both suck and both will be replaced by Hadleys when they completely give out or some Bontrager Big Earls.

[basom]

Why do you think that Fox, Marzocchi, and White Brothers all started making bike forks? They were all motorcycle companies first.

avalanche is a different breed than those companies, i would say. smaller, more boutique. dont get me wrong, i know that motorcycles influenced all suspension.

can i still think that avalanche downhill racing is a cool company? please?

[Spats]

Why do you think that Fox, Marzocchi, and White Brothers all started making bike forks? They were all motorcycle companies first.

Yep. Every single piece of usable mountain bike suspension technology has come off motorcycles, with the exception of multi-link rear suspension. (All motos are single pivot -- when you're pulling 50+ horsepower over four-foot whoops, you can't afford the slop.)

[trainnvain]

I've always been a huge fan of marzocchi, but the the Pike really surprised me when I rode it- pretty stiff tracking, plush, superadjustable. I'll never go back to a 9mm QR after riding a 20mm axle up front. If I did suggest a zoke product I'd have to give the nod to the Z1 fr1 (the fr3 is less bucks but the ETA adjustment is sooo nice on the climbs)
Avy makes beautiful rear suspension and they dial it in perfectly. But it is more DH friendly. 5th element C.O. is a good all around rear setup.
Wheelsets can be many things depending on what you are doing. For full wheelsets for all around heavy riding I've liked the Dt Swiss Hugi FR IS set or the SunRingle/Intense wheelset. These are both heavier wheelsets but they take a beating without being as heavy as a full out DH hoopset. Kenda Nevegals are always on my wheels.
E13 dual ring guide if you're just running a 32/22 combo (you'll want to bump up to a 36t outer if you plan on doing any dirt jumping). If it's a triple a least get a bashguard to save yer leg from that ring.
XT/octalink is a good crank/BB combo.
Thompson/Truvativ/RaceFace is all good for cockpit parts.

[Spats]

Don't worry, I'm just being a curmudgeon because my big bike is worth less than half of everyone else's.

Seriously: CK could easily make it quieter if they wanted without slower engagement, but the sound has basically become their trademark.

[Arty50]

Seriously: CK could easily make it quieter if they wanted without slower engagement, but the sound has basically become their trademark.

From all the reviews I've read, Hadleys make the same noise.

[lph]

I've only ridden grip-shift mountain bikes twice. Each time I shifted unintentionally. Most people I've met have that problem on rough trail: I'm amazed you don't. Maybe you grip with your ring and little fingers?

Great. Twice. Nothing like an educated opinion.

So.....what are you talking about? Grip with my ring and little fingers?????? What grip shifts have you used? Your hand is not on the grip shift when you are riding!

For the love of God people, if you are gonna give someone an opinion, at least have some clue what you are talking about!!!!

[bagtagley]

For the love of God people, if you are gonna give someone an opinion, at least have some clue what you are talking about!!!!

It only took one ride w/ GS to realize I hated them...hence my opinion that I hate them.

[phUnk]

Can we please get back to arguing about things that are based completely on personal preference now?

[funkendrenchman]

Can we please get back to arguing about things that are based completely on personal preference now?

Kona saddles are the most comfortable ever made.

[Arty50]

Kona saddles are the most comfortable ever made.

YOU'VE GOTTA FUCKING BE KIDDING ME!!! MTB IS THE FUCKING SHIT AND ANYONE WHO SAYS OTHERWISE SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT AND SHOT!!!!

[Spats]

Great. Twice. Nothing like an educated opinion.

So.....what are you talking about? Grip with my ring and little fingers?????? What grip shifts have you used? Your hand is not on the grip shift when you are riding!

For the love of God people, if you are gonna give someone an opinion, at least have some clue what you are talking about!!!!

I have 3x9 grip shifts on my recumbent (no, not half-pipes, the regular ones), which I ride every day. If my hands are completely off the grip shift part, my fingers don't reach to the brake levers because they're too far to the inside. Both mountain bikes I tried had the same issue. Perhaps you've got extra-long levers?

I think two decent length mountain bike rides is plenty to form an informed opinion about something: most of us form much stronger opinions after a spin around the parking lot on a badly set up demo bike, or just by reading Internet forums

[Spats]

From all the reviews I've read, Hadleys make the same noise.

I've heard the Hadleys with only 36 points of engagement are really loud too, but that's also just from reviews. I checked all the rear hubs in my house...Novatec is loud, XT is tied with the no-name at "moderate", and Deore is very quiet. You could run an XT or Deore with 4x the engagement and it still wouldn't make the CK noise.

Does anyone know how much noise Phil Woods make? (I have no idea.)

[Neon]

DT Swiss hubs are noisy too.

[mtbakerskier]

So this is what im looking at for componets, give me a yeah or neah on them.


05 Marz 66RC Coil 150mm
Black 20mm
TV Hussefelt P.C. RG 170
24-36-RG C-set ISIS Blk
TV Giga Pipe Max Ti 68/7
3x118mm ISIS BB
SRAM 2005 X.9 medium
cage rear derailleur
SRAM X.Gen Front
derailleur Black
SRAM PG990 9spd Cassette
11-34
SRAM PC990 chain

Hayes HFX-MAG HD Blk V8"
Brake Kit
Hayes HFX-MAG HD Blk V8"
Brake Kit
SRAM 2005 X.9 Trigger
shifters
King NoThreadSet 1 1/8"
Navy Blue
Thomson 30.8 x 287mm Blk
seatpost
\ Easton MonkeyLite XC CNT
lo rise 25.4 X 660MM
\ODI Intense Lock On Grip
s & clamps Blk/Blk
RFace Deus 100mm 84/96?
black 25.4 1 1/8
Selle Italia Flite Ti
Black
Nokian Gazzaloddi JR
26x2.6 Blk/Blk Stl Bead
Nokian Gazzaloddi Core
26x2.3 Blk/Blk Kev
Azonic Fusion Pedal 9/16
Magnesium

Front Wheel
Left Cross: 3, Right Cross: 3
King ISO 20mm Frt Disc
Hub 32h Blk
Mavic EX729 Disc 26" 32h
CD
DT Revolution Black 2.0/
1.5mm
DT 2.0x12mm Alloy Colors

Rear Wheel

Left Cross: 3, Right Cross: 3


King ISO Rear Disc Hub
32h Blk
Mavic EX729 Disc 26" 32h
CD
DT Revolution Black 2.0/
1.5mm
DT 2.0x12mm Alloy Colors

[Art Vandelay]

I'd consider truvativ holzfellers over hussefelts considering everything else in the build is top of the line.

[funkendrenchman]

Skip the Max Ti bottom bracket and get a Team DH... ti is for xc nerds. Don't know what people in this thread said about the brakes, but I would go for the Avid Juicy 5's or 7's w/8" rotors or to pimp it even more - Hope 6 pistons or Magura Gustavs. You gonna get a chainguide? If so get the e.13 DRS.

[phUnk]

Don't know what people in this thread said about the brakes, but I would go for the Avid Juicy 5's or 7's w/8" rotors or to pimp it even more - Hope 6 pistons or Magura Gustavs.

Mags are awesome. 6 piston Hopes would be retarded $$overkill on anything less than a monstro DH bike.

BTW, that bike is going to shift like crap with that shitty low-end X.9 rear derailleur.

[mtbakerskier]

BTW, that bike is going to shift like crap with that shitty low-end X.9 rear derailleur.

Well I still might get the full XO treatment, but that kinda depends on what my job situation is.

[funkendrenchman]

Mags are awesome. 6 piston Hopes would be retarded $$overkill on anything less than a monstro DH bike.

BTW, that bike is going to shift like crap with that shitty low-end X.9 rear derailleur.

Well, then 4 piston Hopes or still Avids... I have Hayes and I am not a big fan of their feel or stopping power. I was only suggesting the 6 pistons or Gustavs for max pimpage.

[White Chocolate]

6 piston Hopes would be retarded $$overkill on anything less than a monstro DH bike.

Apparently you haven't seen mtbakerskier's beer belly lately