Please get a flu vaccine

**riser4** · 01-23-2018, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by neufox47

So you still have no evidence against the injected vaccine. And you will take antibiotics even though they come from big pharma. Good for you for avoiding them when unnecessary but are they not part of big pharma?

PS - Ironically, if the worse flu you ever got was the year you received the flu vaccine, it may have saved your life. The flu vaccine reduces the intensity of the flu as a primary goal, preventing you from ever getting it is the secondary goal.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/spotlights/v...e-outcomes.htm

...If he was over 49, according to the study. However, this post is still gold. More reinforcement for my choice to get vaccine.

What I want though is to hear more about sultry Panamanian voodoo priestesses. And pics.

**iceman** · 01-23-2018, 09:11 AM

You really think he's got a "sultry" woman?

Maybe "sulky".

**Viva** · 01-23-2018, 09:27 AM

Or "surly".

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**old goat** · 01-23-2018, 09:34 AM

75 flu deaths in California in people under 65 since October, compared to 14 all last flu season, hospitals running out of beds, doctors, nurses, and Tamiflu.
http://digital.olivesoftware.com/Oli...5C29&mode=text

**TheSilverSurfer** · 01-23-2018, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by Not bunion

That idiocy alone makes me reconsider my choice.

Nah, not really.

Why are carnivores so threatened by vegans?

Why so intolerant?

**skaredshtles** · 01-23-2018, 10:11 AM

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**MagnificentUnicorn** · 01-23-2018, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by TheSilverSurfer

Why are carnivores so threatened by vegans?

Why so intolerant?

Irony, do you understand it?

**TheSilverSurfer** · 01-23-2018, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn

Irony, do you understand it?

Do you?

I've never proselytized about veganism. Most vegans don't. It's usually carnivores freaking out. Casually mentioned you are vegan when relevant to the conversation and all of a sudden someone is yelling "bacon! Bacon! Stop telling me to stop eating bacon!".

**uglymoney** · 01-23-2018, 11:07 AM

Not relevant to the conversation. You don't eat the vaccine.

I don't drink soda pop and I am militant about it but if they grew the vaccine in a Diet Dew I'd still get the shot.

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**old goat** · 01-23-2018, 11:07 AM

I thought this was a thread about flu vaccine. Isn't there a vegan thread where you guys can argue about that.
For the record I don't give a shit what someone else eats, as long as they don't post a picture of it--either before they eat it or after they've digested it. (We've had a couple of the latter, lately.)

**TheSilverSurfer** · 01-23-2018, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by uglymoney

Not relevant to the conversation. You don't eat the vaccine.

I don't drink soda pop and I am militant about it but if they grew the vaccine in a Diet Dew I'd still get the shot.

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Veganism is about much more than eating. You're thinking about vegetarians.

**Mazderati** · 01-23-2018, 11:12 AM

Remember that thread DBS started about not being an asshole.

**My Pet Powder Goat** · 01-23-2018, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by TheSilverSurfer

Do you?

I've never proselytized about veganism. Most vegans don't. It's usually carnivores freaking out. Casually mentioned you are vegan when relevant to the conversation and all of a sudden someone is yelling "bacon! Bacon! Stop telling me to stop eating bacon!".

Why are you calling us "carnivores"?

Humans are omnivores, that shit just makes you look stupid

**uglymoney** · 01-23-2018, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by TheSilverSurfer

Veganism is about much more than eating. You're thinking about vegetarians.

Oh shit. Sorry. I hope they develop a Veganism friendly vaccine for you.

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**MagnificentUnicorn** · 01-23-2018, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by TheSilverSurfer

Do you?

I've never proselytized about veganism. Most vegans don't. It's usually carnivores freaking out. Casually mentioned you are vegan when relevant to the conversation and all of a sudden someone is yelling "bacon! Bacon! Stop telling me to stop eating bacon!".

You've been proselytizing here about all manner of things since you became an ex pothead/fat body married to a Panamanian SJW. Before that you were an aggro pothead, Dan Sama acolyte who shirked personal responsibility and bragged incessantly about the amount and quality of cannabis you consumed. I'm not sure which version of you is worse, I'm leaning toward the former.

**MontuckyFried** · 01-23-2018, 11:28 AM

Perhaps this has been discussed here already, but what's the haps with the "universal" flu vaccine? If they can come up with one that substantially protects against all major strains, I'd be willing to bet that participation rates would skyrocket. I really do believe that the reason that most people don't bother is they feel it's a waste of time and just roll the dice with the odds. If manufacturers came out with something that could deliver on even 75%, that would be huge.

**summit** · 01-23-2018, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn

Irony, do you understand it?

Protein deficiency has affected his cognition?

**MontuckyFried** · 01-23-2018, 11:40 AM

This is an interesting watch, even if it is for the layman like myself:

**summit** · 01-23-2018, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by AustinFromSA

Perhaps this has been discussed here already, but what's the haps with the "universal" flu vaccine? If they can come up with one that substantially protects against all major strains, I'd be willing to bet that participation rates would skyrocket. I really do believe that the reason that most people don't bother is they feel it's a waste of time and just roll the dice with the odds. If manufacturers came out with something that could deliver on even 75%, that would be huge.

It would be fucking fantastic, that's what. It would save so many lives, so many resources, so much time, and so much money.

Like I said, with an R(0) value of about 2, if we had something that had a 60% seroconversion that covered all strains, and we could vaccinate 98% of the population and 90% of those people did get vaccinated... there would be no flu season.

**uglymoney** · 01-23-2018, 12:26 PM

On On Point on NPR this morning an expert said NIH spends 1 billion a year on HIV vaccines (a good thing) but only 31 million on flu vaccine so don't expect a universal flu vaccine anytime soon.

Edit...link to article he was probably referencing.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.chica...story,amp.html

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**detrusor** · 01-23-2018, 12:30 PM

The problem is genetic drift in the flu virus (mutation is not quite correct). This makes it impossible to have a “universal” vaccine.

The other viruses arent as prone to this so can be globally targeted.

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**iceman** · 01-23-2018, 01:14 PM

They're working on it though: https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...l-flu-vaccine/

**TheSilverSurfer** · 01-23-2018, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Summit

Protein deficiency has affected his cognition?

Myth #1000 about veganism.

**TheSilverSurfer** · 01-23-2018, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by Mazderati

Remember that thread DBS started about not being an asshole.

I'm not the one being an asshole. I've calmly explained my position and backed it up.

In response I've been called a fucking idiot and a moron, and my wife has been attacked.

Who's the asshole?