The Official Salomon S/Lab SHIFT MNC Thread -AMA

[adamcz]

Looks promising. Would love to see one in person. The wait is on.

[PNW_Skier206]

wtf putting a sz 12 foot into a 27.5 boot

I’m also a 12 with a 27.5 boot... why is that weird?


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[Skidog]

I’m also a 12 with a 27.5 boot... why is that weird?


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id agree it seems tight...maybe i just like a more comfy boot or dont like to do a lot of bootfitting? I am a street size 11 across all but the narrowest brands...always been in a 28.5, bootfittings confirmed that this was the "right" shell.

[PNW_Skier206]

id agree it seems tight...maybe i just like a more comfy boot or dont like to do a lot of bootfitting? I am a street size 11 across all but the narrowest brands...always been in a 28.5, bootfittings confirmed that this was the "right" shell.

I prob just like my street shoes big and my boots tight.


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[NorCalNomad]

I’m also a 12 with a 27.5 boot... why is that weird?


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Wearing ski boots like a climbing shoe.

[Skidog]

I prob just like my street shoes big and my boots tight.


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Oh sometimes on here I am amazed at what people seem to cram their feet into. If its comfy to you, thats all the fucking matters right? Just makes me wonder what im missing??

[jacob_dbu]

People like different fitting everyday shoes. I wear 12s from Lems and I wear 26.5 Salomons. But my foot only measures 274mm. I like the "barefoot" style shoes. I swim in them but I like it like that.

[margotron]

September is so far away.

Will there be early shipments for people that preorder?

[406]

Looking forward to them. Hopefully get another season out of the dynafiddles.

[NorCalNomad]

People like different fitting everyday shoes. I wear 12s from Lems and I wear 26.5 Salomons. But my foot only measures 274mm. I like the "barefoot" style shoes. I swim in them but I like it like that.

Wearing shoes that are too big will actually put more strain on your feet, legs, and hips...but man that's up to you.

Anyone know if Vulcan's work in the Shifts?

[jacob_dbu]

Wearing shoes that are too big will actually put more strain on your feet, legs, and hips...but man that's up to you.

Anyone know if Vulcan's work in the Shifts?

Walking puts strain on your lower body but I'd rather not sit in a wheelchair. Each to their own though, feet are a very personal thing.

[NorCalNomad]

Walking puts strain on your lower body but I'd rather not sit in a wheelchair. Each to their own though, feet are a very personal thing.

More clearly, walking barefoot causes less strain then wearing shoes that are too big. Shoes that are properly sized will reduce it in relation to barefeet.

Not making a value judgement. Just wanted to share some knowledge that's backed up by science.

[Eluder]

Is anyone still bummed these only have one climbing aid?

[TahoeJ]

Is anyone still bummed these only have one climbing aid?

I didn't care initially, but after getting some recent tour days in and reminding myself of various situations where it really makes sense to make a direct steeper approach even if it's brief.... yeah, kind of. There's still time, maybe Solly will add one.

[Pat]

More clearly, walking barefoot causes less strain then wearing shoes that are too big. Shoes that are properly sized will reduce it in relation to barefeet.

Not making a value judgement. Just wanted to share some knowledge that's backed up by science.

*raises hand*
I use both risers on my Barons an equal amount. Kind of a bummer these only have one option.

[Eluder]

When the Duke came out Marker had to make a revised climbing aid that was taller that then became stock.

[meter-man]

I just came here to say I am incredibly stoked on this binding, and I've never ever seen it in person.

I'm fine with one riser too. Especially because it has a ski crampon slot that can be used on icy, steep skinners. Nice work Alka et al.

Now....what ski to mount it on??....

--Heavy Kool-Aid Imbiber

[gramboh]

I have a shim under the toe of my Radical 1.0's which reduces the effective angle of the climbing aids, and I still rarely use the higher angle one but it does happen. Might be ok with the Shifts since the ramp angle will be fine stock.

I'm planning on Shifts on Renegades (currently Guardians) and Hojis (currently Radical ST 1.0) and keeping my Cochise with STH916 for hardpack resort/family ski days. I don't do enough big vert days to justify a super light setup.

[TahoeJ]

I didn't care initially, but after getting some recent tour days in and reminding myself of various situations where it really makes sense to make a direct steeper approach even if it's brief.... yeah, kind of. There's still time, maybe Solly will add one.

On a follow-up note... this doesn't mean I'm not willing to try them and prove myself wrong. There are certain skis where the idea of being able to ski them at the resort and BC certainly trumps any concerns of riser height. I've found myself leaning towards heavy or light these days and these would be sweet for something in the middle, weight wise.

[LeeLau]

Wearing shoes that are too big will actually put more strain on your feet, legs, and hips...but man that's up to you.

Anyone know if Vulcan's work in the Shifts?

Vulcans work in Shifts

[markcjr]

Lee do you know if it's the midnight shift, morning shift or swing shift? I can never seem to catch those Vulcans

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don't sweat it dude just ...

[Alkasquawlik]

Wondering if after this gets released to the hoards of hacks (ie:me)and any issue appears , they’ll reinforce/redesign the issue and maybe make a light 10 din version and/or burly 16din version from what they learn. Makes sense to start with the happy medium 13 din binding in this app. If they want some ultra quick beta testing, I vote they give judo chop a couple sets and start taking notes

I honestly doubt we'd do either. Shaving weight on these would be super tough. Not impossible but significant enough weight to warrant a loss of three DIN settings doesn't seem like a valuable proposition. Oh and on the heavier 16 DIN version, we talked about that a ton internally but there are parameter limits for the binding itself that don't have to do with the main DIN spring that we were told eliminated that possibility. I may be in the dark on future plans but as of now, the SHIFT is the SHIFT with no long term plans to significantly alter the SHIFT. I mean hell, it's been the coolest binding I've ever used yet, so as of now, even I don't see much need to alter it.

[TahoeJ]

It's interesting to note that the Kingpin came in at 13, the Tectons at 12 and the SHIFT at 13. I suspect there's some user modeling / actuarial models that determine that to be the sweet spot in terms of weight vs. market availability. Obviously a DIN of 10 would cut out too many potential users, for example, so the weight savings wouldn't be worth it, while going up to 16 is likely the inverse (the number of people who need > 13 DIN probably isn't worth the weight penalty).

Do you still ski Cody? I thought you were an African fisherman now?

[westoxified]

Vulcans work in Shifts

Uh, is that boot ISO 9523? Does it have quickstep inserts?