The Official Salomon S/Lab SHIFT MNC Thread -AMA

[Pacman922]

You. Are a man who I insist should pay full retail!

Too Late!

[LiveLarger]

Fresh review up here in french:
http://www.skipass.com/salomon/mag/1...e-la-shif.html

[XXX-er]

I was skiing with AngleParking last week, on chair rides I convinced him he should buy the demo Salomons avec shift

cuz buddy breaks or goes thru alot of hardware anyway ... this should be interesting

[gaijin]

I've been following along for the last few months, but don't recall the answers to this question in one sentence--

What are the release avenues for the Shift? Rotating heal? Upward toe?

I'm days from entering my ACL surgery... I really wish I had something else on my feet for the last ten years. What bindings I've been on is less important than the fact that they have all failed to deliver an upward toe and rotatable heal in one package.

[JRainey]

I've been following along for the last few months, but don't recall the answers to this question in one sentence--

What are the release avenues for the Shift? Rotating heal? Upward toe?

I'm days from entering my ACL surgery... I really wish I had something else on my feet for the last ten years. What bindings I've been on is less important than the fact that they have all failed to deliver an upward toe and rotatable heal in one package.

This is an alpine binding for skiing down. It will have the same release characteristics as all other alpine bindings, not the characteristics you mentioned.

[LiveLarger]

This is an alpine binding for skiing down. It will have the same release characteristics as all other alpine bindings, not the characteristics you mentioned.

Some alpine bindings do release upwards in front.

[JRainey]

Some alpine bindings do release upwards in front.

Not the good ones...

[LiveLarger]

Not the good ones...

Thats what the kids say when they have been caught lying.

[nickel]

But will it hold up to in bounds use or will it detonate and it's users be lambasted for using a touring binding inbounds?

[JRainey]

Thats what the kids say when they have been caught lying.

I was wondering if that would slip by or not. Got a little too sassy, but seriously the bigger part of that question is do they have lateral heel release which is a big no. Well documented that alpine bindings have a blind spot for ACLs, where tech bindings have a blind spot for tib/fib and ankles.

[Pacman922]

But will it hold up to in bounds use or will it detonate and it's users be lambasted for using a touring binding inbounds?

Well the binding doesn't actually use the pins for the downhill so probably. If not we can just write a letter tho

[nickel]

M series is full of the piss and vinegar. A beacon for his people.

[Pacman922]

M series is full of the piss and vinegar. A beacon for his people.

thank you

[nickel]

I picked up some mtn bindings for my next year skis that will go with inserts. The question becomes what does the second set of inserts serve? Shift? Tecton? Warden?

Such wonderful first world problems.

[gaijin]

This is an alpine binding for skiing down. It will have the same release characteristics as all other alpine bindings, not the characteristics you mentioned.

Thanks, JRainey.

[Pacman922]

I picked up some mtn bindings for my next year skis that will go with inserts. The question becomes what does the second set of inserts serve? Shift? Tecton? Warden?

Such wonderful first world problems.

Have you considered the kingpin?

[reckless toboggan]

Have you considered the kingpin?

I lol'd.

[PNW_Skier206]

Have you considered the kingpin?

*Beer through nose*


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[nickel]

Have you considered the kingpin?

[Pacman922]

guess thats a no.

jk jk, i've seen all the threads. Surprised you'd consider the tecton as it has a similar set up to the kingpin

[TahoeJ]

Hey, same page on the kingpin but the tecton is awesome. Also not made by Marker.....

[nickel]

I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with the design, most likely just marker blowing it.

I basically only ski resort with my kid or at work. Sometimes work laps qualify as real skiing but it's really not a ton of hard mileage despite being a lot of days. Feels like I shouldn't need an actual alpine binding for this but maybe I'm being unrealistic. Seems this is basically how the shift is being marketed but yeah. M series nailed the reference.

[Core Shot]

If you need inserts for alpine binders, I totally misunderstood the shift.
I bought them for 90% resort or bootpacking, with occasional skinning.

I could see inserts for an ultralight pin binding for long tours in soft snow.

[nickel]

The latter is where I'm going with this. The big question is will these hold up to resort use? Thus far, I don't think that's the environment they're being tested in.

[Core Shot]

I don’t think Cody is running them on blue groomers at din 5.

Big boys sending big airs is what sold me, particularly when it’s been 3 years of R&D. If it were less time in development, I would have waited for 2nd gen after the first year of failures.

But, must be a lot of plastic in there compared to 916, Sth, or P18. Hope it’s legit.