WASATCH STOKE, CONDITIONS, OBSERVATIONS AND ASSORTED DRIVAL 17-18

[MarsB]

Only third driest now? Well, sheeyit. This changes everything. I guess I'll continue to run my (free) Weber county-supplied secondary water lawn sprinklers half on the street at noon for an hour just like my neighbors.

[snowaddict91]

Only third driest now? Well, sheeyit. This changes everything. I guess I'll continue to run my (free) Weber county-supplied secondary water lawn sprinklers half on the street at noon for an hour just like my neighbors.

Meh. My water comes straight from LCC. Can't be getting no extra dog piss on muh grass!

[WasatchFlatlander]

Anyone go to the snowbird ski swap (9/21-9/23)? Any Good? I was considering heading up there next Saturday morning to pick up some deals on kids stuff.

[skifishbum]

Mountain Accord was just a bunch of pie in the sky, Ski Utah marketing mumbo jumbo. It was never going to be built and Alta was stupid to even agree in the first place.

you really dont have a very good grasp on what the mountain accord was or what alta has to gain from it
perhaps a little reading before posting would make you look less uninformed and slightly less stupid
http://mountainaccord.com/mountain-accord-final-report/
im not a hudge poli activist
i did attend a cottonwood commission meeting back in aug

i really dont care to much if white pine becomes wilderness
i do care that back around the turn of the century, not the y2k millennial one, pioneers made the trek up and built white pine dam
and created the reservoir as a water storage and created the south despain ditch company, which provides irrigation water to the granite neighborhood and those whose properties on the line with water rights. The lake enhances the eccosystem and vehicular access to maintain the dam and the important water resource should be allowed regardless of whether it receives a wilderness designation.
while there i received a copy of what i call the 30 pages of the canyons kulaks kookala papers
that ill share.
not my views just passing along the kooks adgenda some of it fact some fiction
if alta had a representative there they choose not to speak or let the public know of their wants or plans
unlike the rest of the people there who made their voices and wants known in the public forum on record.
i know what Clyde Buxton and other people want cause they were not afraid to stand before the committee and speak.

[mall walker]

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i really dont care to much if white pine becomes wilderness
i do care that back around the turn of the century, not the y2k millennial one, pioneers made the trek up and built white pine dam
and created the reservoir as a water storage and created the south despain ditch company, which provides irrigation water to the granite neighborhood and those whose properties on the line with water rights. The lake enhances the eccosystem and vehicular access to maintain the dam and the important water resource should be allowed regardless of whether it receives a wilderness designation.
while there i received a copy of what i call the 30 pages of the canyons kulaks kookala papers
that ill share.
not my views just passing along the kooks adgenda some of it fact some fiction
if alta had a representative there they choose not to speak or let the public know of their wants or plans
unlike the rest of the people there who made their voices and wants known in the public forum on record.
i know what Clyde Buxton and other people want cause they were not afraid to stand before the committee and speak.











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that guy seems normal and cool

[muted]

Who wrote that?

[mall walker]

Who wrote that?

were I to hazard a guess I would say it was Canyon Landowner Cyle Buxton

[skifishbum]

were I to hazard a guess I would say it was Canyon Landowner Cyle Buxton

nope not clyde
powder pond told me the guys name but i forgot

[bigdude2468]

Cost for 61 stall parking garage is about right, figure $30,000 per stall. My thought was with Alta not trading GG acreage for base area land a hotel development was off the table. Did I miss something?

[BobMc]

Another season of sitting in traffic...

https://www.ksl.com/article/46392518...-officials-say

[mall walker]

Another season of sitting in traffic...

https://www.ksl.com/article/46392518...-officials-say

The study is scheduled to be completed by early next year, Becker said.

"By (UDOT) standards, they're on a very fast track," the former mayor said.

another 2+ seasons it sounds like lol, unless they think they're gonna get their stuff done in a single summer

[muted]

And then....no traffic ever again!

[mall walker]

in the meantime, at least hopefully, they won't enforce any 4x4/tire/chain laws so instead of predictable steady bad traffic we can have highly variable and exciting bad trafic

[bigdude2468]

in the meantime, at least hopefully, they won't enforce any 4x4/tire/chain laws so instead of predictable steady bad traffic we can have highly variable and exciting bad trafic

The cost estimate is multi billions and Unified PD claims (at least that is what Alta's Mayor told me) they don't have the budget to check cars at the mouth of the LCC. They have money to send police, fire and medical personal to the site of an accident. They have money to sit in the White Pine parking lot twiddling their thumbs. But no money to do a simple turn your ass around in the Malibu or Prius on a snowy day, go figure.

[SJG]

They'd have the budget if they'd start handing out $300 tickets for violations.......

[muted]

A dedicated cop and car to sit at the bottom of the canyon, on the whim of when it snows, can't be cheap, to be fair.

[Sirshredalot]

A dedicated cop and car to sit at the bottom of the canyon, on the whim of when it snows, can't be cheap, to be fair.

It'd probably pay for itself in ticket revenue to go up and pull people over and write fat tickets ten days per year.

[bigdude2468]

A dedicated cop and car to sit at the bottom of the canyon, on the whim of when it snows, can't be cheap, to be fair.

Are you joking, its their job to enforce the restriction. One officer sitting in a vehicle with their hand held stop sign only when the road is restricted to 4X4 or chains. Last winter I would guess no more than 15 days. Many days its not all day once the road is cleared after control work. Take a look at what the Unified Police current resources are:

440 sworn positions
150+ specialty positions
90 supervisory positions
K9
Swat Team
Narcotics Unit
Canyon Search & Rescue

Yea, that one cop is going to break the budget. Early last year when they were stopping cars and checking to be sure they had snowflake rated tires the ski resorts pitched a bitch about customers and employees being hassled. They can't have it both ways.

[bigdude2468]

It'd probably pay for itself in ticket revenue to go up and pull people over and write fat tickets ten days per year.

BTW, I asked the Town Marshall about them enforcing the 4X4 / chain restriction on days the Canyon is restricted at days end. Can't count the number of times I have seen a two wheel drive car getting pushed up the hill leaving the wildcat parking lot with the road restriction sign flashing. Same thing, pisses off the resorts.

[SJG]

LOL, 1 ticket pays for the whole shift. They could easily hand out 20-30 in a couple hours if they decided it was important. It would actually likely save them money by not having to pull as many cars out of the ditches on storm days. And the resorts would not have a mini-van backing up the canyon while he tried to pull the grade at 1.5mph spinning for 80 minutes......

[muted]

It'd probably pay for itself in ticket revenue to go up and pull people over and write fat tickets ten days per year.

true, but they will probably just sit at the bottom and turn people away without giving tickets. and only give tickets after the crash.

Are you joking, its their job to enforce the restriction. One officer sitting in a vehicle with their hand held stop sign only when the road is restricted to 4X4 or chains. Last winter I would guess no more than 15 days. Many days its not all day once the road is cleared after control work. Take a look at what the Unified Police current resources are:

440 sworn positions
150+ specialty positions
90 supervisory positions
K9
Swat Team
Narcotics Unit
Canyon Search & Rescue

Yea, that one cop is going to break the budget. Early last year when they were stopping cars and checking to be sure they had snowflake rated tires the ski resorts pitched a bitch about customers and employees being hassled. They can't have it both ways.

And they are covering this area: The UPD serves unincorporated Salt Lake County and the communities of Copperton, Herriman, Holladay, Kearns, Midvale, Magna, Millcreek, Taylorsville, and Riverton. Additionally, Big Cottonwood Canyon, Little Cottonwood Canyon, Parleys Canyon, Emigration Canyon, Lambs Canyon, and Butterfield Canyon are policed by UPD's Canyon Patrol. The southeast areas of Willow Canyon, White City, Granite, Sandy Hills, and Willow Creek are also within UPD's jurisdiction


Pretty sure they have better things to do than help a bunch of rich people wanting to go up a canyon without delay to ski pow. Although it would be awesome if the SWAT team was doing nothing, they could check tires. Put the fear of god in all those front-wheel peeps, that's for sure.

[jtran10]

TGR flick at red butte tonight! I'll be there with Phall and some others. Anyone else?

[whyturn]

TGR flick at red butte tonight! I'll be there with Phall and some others. Anyone else?

It was fun. Now it’s junk show. But hey I saw durtchi again so there is that.

[SirHeady]

Just got back from TGR PREMIER

Fav part of the movie was the Very chill and rational POW Ad immediately followed by JohnnyCollinson exiting a lifted Ford 350 at the SLC airport 10 seconds later


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[Trefin]

Pretty sure they have better things to do than help a bunch of rich people wanting to go up a canyon without delay to ski pow. Although it would be awesome if the SWAT team was doing nothing, they could check tires. Put the fear of god in all those front-wheel peeps, that's for sure.

Idk even in bcc last year night skiing there was a officer parked at the base that let a civic with bald tires up in front of me who ended up ditching themselves. Also one Saturday they let an 18 wheeler up who shut the canyon down for a weekend pow day since his gps told him to take guardsman. Even when they are there they are too lazy to enforce the rules.

I’d love mandatory bus service for non backcountry skiers if the state would purchase some of the gravel pit to build a giant park and ride. Imo the current park and rides fill up so early you are better off just driving up.


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