Why all the Caroline Gleich hate?

[klar]

the haters gonna hate

Here's an observation- that more serious (in demeanor) pro skier/ athletes get hated on more than the fun party guy skiers
I can think of at least 2 other examples where I know of pro athletes that are shy/quiet/ serious people and they were targeted by aggressive haters vs the usual heckling that occurs on social media

Yes, and: athletes and all other kinds of "celebrities" seem to get hated on when they dare express opinions not directly related to their sport or whatever they happen to be famous for. There was a shitshow of a thread here recently where someone complained about her environmental activism and that it was messing with his pristine instagram feed.

[Skidog]

Yes, and: athletes and all other kinds of "celebrities" seem to get hated on when they dare express opinions not directly related to their sport or whatever they happen to be famous for. There was a shitshow of a thread here recently where someone complained about her environmental activism and that it was messing with his pristine instagram feed.

Probably the stalker 😀

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[digitaldeath]

OP probably vain ass caroline

[SUPERIOR]

This thread proves that Trump is coming for your birth control


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[digitaldeath]

the haters gonna hate
I did a ramp camp with her several yrs ago and she is a very serious person-obviously really driven and motivated (and awesome and badass)

Here's an observation- that more serious (in demeanor) pro skier/ athletes get hated on more than the fun party guy skiers
I can think of at least 2 other examples where I know of pro athletes that are shy/quiet/ serious people and they were targeted by aggressive haters vs the usual heckling that occurs on social media

nobody likes dicks being all serious all the time ...

[eskido]

This thread proves that Trump is coming for your birth control


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Wrong forum! Don't come in here and jong up a fun thread, there's a place for that kind of stoopid shit

[SUPERIOR]

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[doebedoe]

Watched the video last night. Going off the discussion here I thought it would've been more about the stalker/hater shit. It was framed around that, but majority was about her life and the Chuting gallery goal. Could've done with a lot more skiing and info about the Chuting gallery -- her and McLean chatting would've been cool. But I'm in the minority of REIs viewership in wanting to geek out about such things.

She slays.

[gramboh]

Watched the REI bit, had no idea who she was before other than vaguely hearing about the stalking bullshit. Looks like pretty damn legit skills and dedication to me, no idea what drives the nutbars to harass her. At least she doesn't just use her sexual appeal to gain a following without having legit skills: Sierra Quitiquit (who is also nauseating to listen to).

Did they catch the stalkers yet? Would be hilarious if their real identities were outed online. Probably some losers from SLC that post on TGR.

[Toss the Bat]

Stalkers may not be assholes just crazy. I have an RO on an ex gf. She's a really nice, caring, attractive person who unfortunately is deranged. She just can't help herself. The RO was difficult...my chances at benefits ended.

Don't know about CG but in other sports I've known athletes pre-fame acquire a fame persona that's fictional. Sponsors do it to cash in.

[Skidog]

Outside mag ran an article on her and her stalker. Well it starts with her and goes onto some other athletes that had stalkers

[cloud cult]

Caroline and I both attended a 3-day workshop last weekend. A van picked us and Brody Leven and Thomas Woodson at the airport, and we stopped in Truckee to get Clare Gallagher, and while we were looking for her Caroline said that she wanted to take something to the lodge to drink, and so we walked downtown in the rain looking for a liquor store before bailing and just going to Safeway. Prolly the best 30 minutes of my life.

[plugboots]

^^^ Yer funny...but I like you.

[The SnowShow]

What does CG drink

[The SnowShow]

Amazing all the hate she gets...WTF:
https://www.outsideonline.com/231381...-gleich-sexism

[reckless toboggan]

tl;dr

Yes, I used guides. But I knew them, so they weren't really guides. Except when they were. But I'm a strong female, and using guides is clearly not feminist. So while I did use guides, as a feminist, I don't like that I used guides, so I won't admit that I used guides.

[Supermoon]

How dare someone go out in the mountains with their friends! Who are also skilled in the mountains! If she did or didn’t who gives a shit. Takes nothing away from the accomplishment IMO.

You lead the up and ski the down then you’ve done it.

[reckless toboggan]

All of life is a journey of learning. It's sad when people don't want to admit that.

[happytimefunbox]

I get it. There is sexism out there. Yep. Pretty lady skier got stalked. That sucks and is not okay any day. Chick skier trying to make it in a man dominated sector of a man dominated sport. She charges harder than I ever could without a doubt. I dont give 2 shits if she uses a guide. Sage doesnt ski those ak lines on his own who cares. I appreciate her enviro stance and have stood shoulder to shoulder with her more than once....

But when I read something like that I cant help read it in the voice of my 13 yo when he gets his iphone taken away.

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[Supermoon]

You know what they say... when someone is giving you criticism, everything before the “but” is bullshit.

[doebedoe]

..
But when I read something like that I cant help read it in the voice of my 13 yo when he gets his iphone taken away.
... TGR Forums mobile app

And there it is. The sexism 101.

[skifishbum]

an old buzzed river rat ran the green and colorado solo said "i have had my reward in the doing of the thing"
obviously this isnt enough for this super special snowflake and grasping at straws to sway public opinion is going to validate these accomplishments
funny thing is totally respect the accomplishment of skiing classic wasatch lines
i have a guide friend who passed avvy 3 last season
his shit is tight
i totally believe if carolines skills were anywhere near his level she would of passed
but.......
well like the poopenhausen
fine excuse girl

[doebedoe]

Is it typical that one fails their level 3 because of things that are outside the course material? Do they review your entire history of mountaineering and decide whether you get a level 3 or not? If you go in knowing that these thing may stop you getting your level 3, then fine.

But if instructors are citing things well outside the purview of the course or viewed you during the course differently than others because of what they know about you -- that's implicit bias and cannot be used to make an objective decision on pass / fail.

[zartagen]

Her article as well written, not whiney, and made real points. You guys being naysayers about the article are perfectly illustrating the points she makes. I've seen, in more than one dude only ski porn, guides that are leading the heli trip make a go/no go call. Did the dudes get ridiculed for having guides? No, they didn't. Caroline upped the ante, leading human powered trips also with a photo/video crew, and she still gets shit.

I'm also curious about the standard for passing avy 3 mentioned above. Is it standard practice to let perceived actions outside the class to influence the pass/fail decision?

[Supermoon]

an old buzzed river rat ran the green and colorado solo said "i have had my reward in the doing of the thing"
obviously this isnt enough for this super special snowflake and grasping at straws to sway public opinion is going to validate these accomplishments

You’re conflating a river rat with a sponsored athlete who’s job is to bring exposure to her sponsors.

A man would never have gotten any of this hate, or had people claiming he didn’t deserve credit because he went into the backcountry with other people.

It’s fucking bonkers to expect a person to do something like this and not have tons of other people involved on various levels. And it’s equally bonkers to just expect her stay quiet later. Both in promoting her film or responding to criticism.