Craigslist scammer...lets play!

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So this guy on craigslist tried pulling this scam with the same bike last month in Vancouver. I was curious at first, but then I became totally convinced that it was a scam and I've been entertaining myself with it ever since. Anyone have any ideas on what I should e-mail this crook next?


On 6/13/05,BlurredElevens <myemailaddy@yahoo.com> wrote:

I am really interested. Is the bike in Denver? What
size is the engine? How do you want payment? I could
pay you immediately.
-Brett


Thomas Dereck <tdereck@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi.


Where are you located ? I live in Dothan, AL and my last price for the bike is $1,300.
The bike is from 1991 and I'm the second owner. It's in perfectly conditions, like new, you'll love it ! It have a clean title and 16,000 miles. If you realy want to buy it, we can sort the deal quikly. I can call you if you want, just tell me if you are realy interested.

Please reply quikly.

On 6/13/05, BlurredElevens <myemailaddy@yahoo.com> wrote:

where is the bike? I'm very interested.


Thomas Dereck <tdereck@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi there.
The bike is here with me in Alabama. We can arrange the deal if you
want. I can come to meet you somewhere on the halfway or I can shipp
it to your address. Tell me what way do you agree ?
Shipping is more simple. I'll shipp by Forward Air and you'll receive
it in 48 hours. It will coast $320 but I'll cover 50% from the fees.
So you'll have to pay me only $1,460. You'll have to wire the money by
a money order. Or I have another solution. I'm affiliated at
www.buysafe.com .I have a a purchase protection account for 25,000$
and I assume you know what this means.
The financial part of this deal will be manage by them. They are
acting like a third party in this deal. Also, I have to let you know
that I want a proof that you have all the money available for this
deal as I will ship it in the same day or next day morning ,after you
prove to me that you are the real buyer.
Since this deal will be made using a THIRD PARTY to help us closing
this deal, I prefer honest buyers. Anyway, if you want more details
about this deal, please reply with the following information's:
-Your full name;
-Your shipping address;
After I'll receive your message with your FULL NAME and your COMPLETE
SHIPPING ADDRESS I'll inform them to start the transaction. I will
look for your email, so that we can move forward with this deal!
Regards!



On 6/13/05, BlurredElevens <myemailaddy@yahoo.com> wrote:

First, why did you put the bike on craigslist in
DENVER, CO? That's where I live. 2nd, why can't you
tell me the engine size of the bike?

Thomas Dereck <tdereck@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi.
It's ok. The engine is 600cc. The location on CL is a mistake. www.buysafe.com is the solution. You'll not pay any fees at BuySafe because I am a seal member there. You'll have to pay only $1,460.
The bike is in a good condition. It was never been down, the tires and
the brakes work well. And there are no mechanical problems. It's
registered and it have a clean title. You'll have 3 days for
inspection to verify it and you'll have to inform BuySafe to wire the
money to me only after you'll decide to keep it. If you'll not
like it, you'll can send it back and I'll pay for the shipping back.
But I'm sure that you'll like it !
Soo just send me your name and your shipping address and BuySafe will
start the transaction. You'll receive the details and you'll see the
procedure with the steps.
Please reply quikly.
Thomas



On 6/13/05, BlurredElevens <myemailaddy@yahoo.com> wrote:

I'll buy the bike for 1160 w/shipping.

Thomas Dereck <tdereck@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok I accept $1,160 including shipping. Send me your name and your shipping address and www.buysafe.com will start the transaction.

Waiting for your reply.

Thomas


BlurredElevens <myemailaddy@yahoo.com> wrote:
How about you send me the bike, and if I like it, I'll
pay you. If you could supply a telephone number, I'd
like to talk to you about this on the phone. Thanks,
Brett
Thomas Dereck <tdereck@gmail.com> wrote:
Send me your phone # and I will call you. And I accept only www.buysafe.com. If you accept send me your anme and your shipping address

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On 6/16/05, Brett <myemailaddy@yahoo.com> wrote:

I sent the money to buysafe.com

They said before I give you my address, I should ask
for your shipping address. Could you give me your
address and phone number? I'm really excited about the
motorcycle!! Thanks a lot! -Brett


Hi Brett.

You don't need my address ! Because you don't have to sign up to BuySafe ! I am a member there and all you need to do is to send me your name and your shipping address and BuySafe will start the transaction. The price will be $1,160 including shipping.
Here is my address anyway: 1870 W Main Street, Dothan, AL 36305. Now send me name and address.

Waiting for your reply.

Thomas

[Powder Seeker]

This sounds pretty sketchy to me. Be careful, good luck, hope it all works out for you. Let us know!

[Blurred]

This sounds pretty sketchy to me. Be careful, good luck, hope it all works out for you. Let us know!

Don't worry, I know it's a scam.

I'm just patronizing the guy for entertainment.

[DaveTV]

Where is the link from the original CRAIGSLIST ad? I will mess w/him..

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Where is the link from the original CRAIGSLIST ad? I will mess w/him..

First one:

http://denver.craigslist.org/mcy/78302280.html


someone pointing out that it was a scam:

http://denver.craigslist.org/mcy/78508792.html

I was looking at bikes in Phoenix, and I stumbled onto this ad too.

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/mcy/78301588.html


Notice how he said it was a "mistake" putting the bike in the DENVER craigslist....hahah. Have fun with him, please keep us updated. hehe

[DaveTV]

Mail sent:
Hi, I live in Enterprise, AL right near you in Dothan and would like take a look at your Suzuki KATANA - I would like to come by tonight if possible.
Thanks!

Jong Powmaggion

[DaveTV]

Response (I just TOLD him where I was..)
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On 6/16/05, Jong Powmaggion <xxxxxxxx@excite.com> wrote:


Hi, I live in Enterprise, AL right near you in Dothan and would like take a look at your Suzuki KATANA - I would like to come by tonight if possible.

Thanks!
Jong Powmaggion


To: <xxxxxxxx@excite.com>
Subject: Re: Suzuki Katana for sale

Hi.

Where are you located ? I live in Dothan, AL and my last price for the bike is $1,300.
The bike is from 1991 and I'm the second owner. It's in perfectly conditions, like new, you'll love it ! It have a clean title and 16,000 miles. If you realy want to buy it, we can sort the deal quikly. I can call you if you want, just tell me if you are realy interested.

Please reply quikly.

[edg]

Just curious. How do you know it's a scam? The correspondence seems pretty straight forward. No body is going to send you merchandise before you pay for it. I don't know anything about Buysafe - is that a legit service?

Other than the one post you linked to, what other indications do you have that it's a scam?

The fact both of the texts are the same, with the same spelling/grammar mistakes, is rather suspicous... Either the person normally speaks with broken English, it's a machine, or it's copy/paste with slight changes for each scam?

edg

[DaveTV]

The guy may be real after all...


From: Thomas Dereck <tdereck@gmail.com>
To: <xxxxxx@excite.com>
Subject: Re: Suzuki Katana for sale

yeah ? I will come there tjis evening ! Give me an address !




On 6/16/05, Jong Powmaggion xxxxx@excite.com> wrote:


I already told you I am in Enterprise - can I come by tonight?

[adam]

Don't worry, I know it's a scam.

I'm just patronizing the guy for entertainment.

It's always more fun when your having fun at someone elses expence, isn't it?

[funkendrenchman]

There is almost nobody I know of who ever buys anything sold privately online by any method other than check, money order, or paypal. If I see the words wire, escrow, or payment service.... I believe it's a scam.

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The guy may be real after all...


From: Thomas Dereck <tdereck@gmail.com>
To: <xxxxxx@excite.com>
Subject: Re: Suzuki Katana for sale

yeah ? I will come there tjis evening ! Give me an address !




On 6/16/05, Jong Powmaggion xxxxx@excite.com> wrote:


I already told you I am in Enterprise - can I come by tonight?

Looks like a showdown of who's going to whos house. Can't wait to see how he worms his way out of this one Dave. Good work! hahahah

[DaveTV]

No response to this one yet..

To: <tdereck@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Suzuki Katana for sale

I would like to come by your house and see the bike in person before I make an offer - let me know your address and a time & date - OK? Thanks!

[philodox]

I am pretty sure this is legit. Buysafe is a third party broker for people who are wary or unwilling to send items directly to someone without receiving payment or seeing the goods. They basically make sure that both sides of the transaction live up to their agreements before brokering the exchange (the seller delivers goods, buyer delivers money).

Otherwise, people run into problems like "Well should I send you the money first? I haven't seen the product yet!" or "I'm not giving you my product until I am sure you are going to pay me" etc.

[DaveTV]

Funny I told him I live in a nearby town, but he won't make an appointment foe me to come see it..

[Trackhead]

Stinks of scam.

[iceman]

It's always more fun when your having fun at someone elses expence, isn't it?

Yeah it is, especially when your hobby is beating down spelling and punctuation morons.

[GFP]

be sure to reply quickly to buysafe.com, that's the solution.

[NorCalSJK]

I am pretty sure this is legit.

First of all...this is a scam, i'm a jong on here but not to spending money online. Please nobody fall for this! Check this link out from Craigslist warning about this type of crap.

Wire & Money Transfer Scams

[Jeffro]

Jong here, but did a quick google search on buysafe, and it may be legit as it is affiliated with overstock.com....

also there is a site called www.fakeescrowsites.com has a list of known fraudulent escrow companies...buysafe is not on the list (but I don't know how up to date the list is so may not be that useful)

[lax]

nice job brett and dave bravo

but this guy has you beat. you gotta read this its fucking hilarious, he rips off a scammer selling a powerbook, and makes him pay liek $2000 in insurance charges.

he has all kind of different pranks too, one in which he emailed one of those obvious nigerian-prince-email-scammers like over 50 times (i think its this guy), the emails get rediculoulsy repetitive and annoying like yours brett, where you'll clearly answer his question, and set him up to make an ass of himself, but he jsut ignores it and reasks the same question

[Trackhead]

nice job brett and dave bravo

but this guy has you beat. you gotta read this its fucking hilarious, he rips off a scammer selling a powerbook, and makes him pay liek $2000 in insurance charges.

he has all kind of different pranks too, one in which he emailed one of those obvious nigerian-prince-email-scammers like over 50 times (i think its this guy), the emails get rediculoulsy repetitive and annoying like yours brett, where you'll clearly answer his question, and set him up to make an ass of himself, but he jsut ignores it and reasks the same question

I believe that was a repeat. But good stuff.

[Blurred]

nice job brett and dave bravo

but this guy has you beat. you gotta read this its fucking hilarious, he rips off a scammer selling a powerbook, and makes him pay liek $2000 in insurance charges.

he has all kind of different pranks too, one in which he emailed one of those obvious nigerian-prince-email-scammers like over 50 times (i think its this guy), the emails get rediculoulsy repetitive and annoying like yours brett, where you'll clearly answer his question, and set him up to make an ass of himself, but he jsut ignores it and reasks the same question

Wow, that was good stuff. Too bad the scammer didn't respond with anything more then dos attacks....haha

All the brainiacs in here could have fun with this scammer too if they got creative.
Dave, did you meet with the guy last night?