OFFICIAL 2017 MLB THREAD

**SkiBall** · 10-30-2017, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by MakersTeleMark

I was waiting for the punch, but alas very lady like about the whole thing.

I am assuming you are referring to her husband. But yes.

**The AD** · 10-30-2017, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by alias_rice

Baseball is definitely better now that they are letting them use performance enhancers again.

I was looking at Justin Turner's stats last night. Guy goes from the Mets to the Dodgers a few years ago and all of a sudden his slugging percentage jumps by one hundred points. This would make sense if Dodger Stadium is a hitters' park, but it's not.

**SkiBall** · 10-30-2017, 12:53 PM

LOL from the Ringer:

kevinoconnor [10:11 p.m.]
idk what I missed but i'm happy to be watching now. 12-12 this is wild

sean.yoo [10:13 p.m.]
It's like KOC started breaking bad in the middle of "Ozymandias"

malloryrubin [10:14 p.m.]
Are they ... not going to commercial anymore?

rodger [10:15 p.m.]
i think they ran out of commercials

kevinclark [10:15 p.m.]
This game has lasted so long we are no longer a capitalist country

**AlpiNord** · 10-30-2017, 01:10 PM

Exciting and fun game....and series.

I imagine purists would argue it wasn’t a great game due to poor pitching or lack of shut down closers.

It definitely seemed like the baseballs have been carrying more than expected. Definitely not the same as cold, outdoor parks.

Smoltz/Buck talked about how some pitchers have complained the baseballs are more slippery and they do not have as much control with their sliders as before. Fact or fiction?

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**SkiBall** · 10-30-2017, 01:25 PM

I am kind of a purist, but I am enjoying the offense. Some of the HR's are silly, but I have no dog in this fight other than to be entertained. Great hitting v great pitching is always a good watch, but obviously the fatigue is showing for these pitchers.

**ex-powderbroker** · 10-30-2017, 02:26 PM

Throwing the ball back is a cubs thing ONLY. What a stupid tradition to pass around.

**Viva** · 10-30-2017, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by The AD

I was looking at Justin Turner's stats last night. Guy goes from the Mets to the Dodgers a few years ago and all of a sudden his slugging percentage jumps by one hundred points. This would make sense if Dodger Stadium is a hitters' park, but it's not.

New York sucks. Check out Chris Taylor's career, too

Originally Posted by ml242

Throwing the ball back is a cubs thing ONLY.

Cultural appropriation builds societies.

**neckdeep** · 10-30-2017, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by Alpinord

Exciting and fun game....and series.

I imagine purists would argue it wasn’t a great game due to poor pitching or lack of shut down closers.

It definitely seemed like the baseballs have been carrying more than expected. Definitely not the same as cold, outdoor parks.

Smoltz/Buck talked about how some pitchers have complained the baseballs are more slippery and they do not have as much control with their sliders as before. Fact or fiction?

Fact. The balls have changed from previous years. The regular season's balls were not "juiced" in the sense that the innards have changed. The big change in the regular season balls was the seams are now more flush to the surface. The balls now travel farther due to less aerodynamic drag. It's also why a lot of pitchers went on the IR with bad blisters back in the early season. With less seam to grip, some guys were squeezing the new ball to the point they were fucking up their fingers.

The World Series balls are now obviously even harder to grip. None of the league's best can consistently throw a wipe out slider with them. Why MLB felt the need to further handicap the pitcher's ability to grip with these slicker balls for the World Series is anybody's guess. More scoring is nice but watching aces struggle to put movement on the ball and having to sit through over thirty minutes of pitcher changes definitely cancels out the long ball excitement.

**SkiBall** · 10-30-2017, 02:46 PM

For "oops" HR's by Puig to make things exciting?

**Viva** · 10-30-2017, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by neckdeep

The World Series balls are now obviously even harder to grip. None of the league's best can throw a wipe out slider with them. Why MLB felt the need to further handicap the pitcher's ability to grip with these slicker balls for the World Series is anybody's guess.

Perhaps they are attempting to capture some of the NFL's fan base now that that league's attendance is dropping.

**SkiBall** · 10-30-2017, 03:00 PM

He's no MadBum.

**zartagen** · 10-30-2017, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by Viva

Perhaps they are attempting to capture some of the NFL's fan base now that that league's attendance is dropping.

Probably attracting the same idiots that like the fucking strike zone overlay.

**Viva** · 10-30-2017, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by zartagen

Probably attracting the same idiots that like the fucking strike zone overlay.

And the "zoomy arrows" on home run replays.

**The AD** · 10-30-2017, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by neckdeep

FMore scoring is nice but watching aces struggle to put movement on the ball and having to sit through over thirty minutes of pitcher changes definitely cancels out the long ball excitement.

I'd gladly take a game with no home runs over a 10 inning game that lasts longer than five hours. That's a little ridiculous.

TG · 10-30-2017, 03:25 PM

https://www.mlb.com/video/taylor-on-...3?tid=63106348

Chris Taylor and third-base coach Chris Woodward discuss Taylor hearing "no" instead of "go" and thus deciding not to attempt to tag up

what the fuck?

he would have made it home easily.

how can you have 2 180 degree opposite calls that sound almost the same?
You can't come up with a better system than "go" vs "no" ??
something you drill occasionally to make sure it works when it's loud & hectic?

jeezus, pay me one day's worth of your 3rd base coach's salary and I'll come up with some unambiguous commands for you.
hell, I'll only charge you for the first and give you 10 extra synonyms for stop/go as a bonus.

wow

**GeezerSteve** · 10-30-2017, 03:29 PM

When I played, it was "hold" and "go."

Originally Posted by The AD

I'd gladly take a game with no home runs over a 10 inning game that lasts longer than five hours. That's a little ridiculous.

That's baseball. There is no clock, which is one of the beauties of baseball.

It could be worse. Cricket test matches sometimes last several days.

**nutmegchoi** · 10-30-2017, 04:23 PM

Boyfriend got me this from silent auction at the postseason game we went.
He’s a keeper, right?

**buttahflake** · 10-30-2017, 04:59 PM

Yet another conspicuous display of wealth and bad taste. Looks like you guys were made for each other, meg.
Barf

**nutmegchoi** · 10-30-2017, 05:06 PM

You just can’t stop following me around, huh?
That’s okay.
Keep it up.

**BmillsSkier** · 10-30-2017, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by neckdeep

Fact. The balls have changed from previous years. The regular season's balls were not "juiced" in the sense that the innards have changed. The big change in the regular season balls was the seams are now more flush to the surface. The balls now travel farther due to less aerodynamic drag. It's also why a lot of pitchers went on the IR with bad blisters back in the early season. With less seam to grip, some guys were squeezing the new ball to the point they were fucking up their fingers.

The World Series balls are now obviously even harder to grip. None of the league's best can consistently throw a wipe out slider with them. Why MLB felt the need to further handicap the pitcher's ability to grip with these slicker balls for the World Series is anybody's guess. More scoring is nice but watching aces struggle to put movement on the ball and having to sit through over thirty minutes of pitcher changes definitely cancels out the long ball excitement.

This is interesting. I haven't heard anything about new balls this season and different new balls for the postseason (WS?). It's entirely possible I just flat out missed it. It kind of makes sense, Cy Kluber went on the DL at least once early in the season for blisters on his fingers, but I had no idea it could be related to a new ball.

**buttahflake** · 10-30-2017, 05:31 PM

Nah, I was up late with the storm, and the game was insane. Just checked in to see what was up. And there you were once again with some of the tackiest bullshit that money can buy.
You voted for Trump, amirite? You and he are very similar. Shallow, rich and tacky.
Take a lap

**nutmegchoi** · 10-30-2017, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by buttahflake

Nah, I was up late with the storm, and the game was insane. Just checked in to see what was up. And there you were once again with some of the tackiest bullshit that money can buy.
You voted for Trump, amirite? You and he are very similar. Shallow, rich and tacky.
Take a lap

Storm scared you?
There, there, little buttah.

Thanks for calling me out rich.
Maybe I can finally don’t need to work 60-80 hours a week!

I am a registered democrat.
I don’t think any right minded democrat voted for Trump.

You really don’t know anything about me.

**iceman** · 10-30-2017, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by nutmegchoi

Boyfriend got me this from silent auction at the postseason game we went.
He’s a keeper, right?

"Game used base"? That's a new one on me. Do they claim he came in contact with it? Hell do they even claim it's from Yankee Stadium?

**nutmegchoi** · 10-30-2017, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by iceman

"Game used base"? That's a new one on me. Do they claim he came in contact with it? Hell do they even claim it's from Yankee Stadium?

They replace bases every 3 innings so bases stay secure and clean,
(also they make fortune selling these)

Steiner Sports handles most Yankees memorabilia.
Earlier the season, Judge was too new to have much items.
His items are still much cheaper compare to Jeter, Rivera and Arod.
Figured this is a good time to get one before it gets too expensive.