Redundancies

[Obstruction]

Inspired by the words that don't go together thread -

Dive Bars.

Bars what are skeevy are dives. Save yourself a syllable.

[Mazderati]

Not sure this works. I've called restaurants dives and drank in nice bars.

[Obstruction]

I agree that there are many nice bars that aren't dives. But a real dive is a bar that smells bad, has a bar that your elbows stick to, serves shitty booze and beer and has shitter that you piss into from the door way rather than walk into.

A lousy restaurant would be a dump rather than a dive.

Mebbe it's an old school use of the word but hey I'm traditional.

[iceman]

No I think a dive is definitely a bar.

[Jong Lafitte]

"With all due respect" - if you're saying it, you have already assigned the level of respect which you believe is due.

"and/or" Choose the one you mean. A sign that says 'no food or drinks' surely does not mean that its OK as long as you have both. A sign that says 'no food and drinks' does not mean that its OK as long as you don't have both.

[BmillsSkier]

As a self-described connoisseur of dives I have to say that the redundancy of 'bar' doesn't annoy me so much, but a dive is most certainly always a bar.

[flyandski365]

Table Mesa.

[MarcusBrody]

I'm with Mazderati. I would definitely describe certain restaurants/diners I've been to as dives.

[BmillsSkier]

Wouldn't that be a greasy spoon?

[nickwm21]

The way architects/engineers/designers use the term "belt and suspenders" as a positive selling point on a redundancy in a design drives me crazy

So.... you think your design has a probability of failure? So instead of fixing the design, you are adding redundancy? And you treat it as a positive selling point? You do know the synonym of "redundant" is "unnecessary"......

If someone actually wore a belt and suspenders, they would look like an idiot. Because, you know, the belt makes the suspenders unnecessary....

[Mazderati]

Naan bread and pho soup should work.

[riser4]

The way architects/engineers/designers use the term "belt and suspenders" as a positive selling point on a redundancy in a design drives me crazy

So.... you think your design has a probability of failure? So instead of fixing the design, you are adding redundancy? And you treat it as a positive selling point? You do know the synonym of "redundant" is "unnecessary"......

If someone actually wore a belt and suspenders, they would look like an idiot. Because, you know, the belt makes the suspenders unnecessary....

You are looking at this all wrong. It is the suspenders that make the belt unnecessary.

[Obstruction]

If someone actually wore a belt and suspenders, they would look like an idiot. Because, you know, the belt makes the suspenders unnecessary....

Like this guy ...

[nickwm21]

You are looking at this all wrong. It is the suspenders that make the belt unnecessary.

Good point. My mistake. There is actually a great Freakanomics podcast about suspenders and how they are a better design than belts.

[BmillsSkier]

Like this guy ...

Counterpoint:

[babybear]

Table Mesa

[MakersTeleMark]

Table Mesa

#7

Sierra Nevada Mountains

Cash Money

[babybear]

ha! I was redundant on the redundancy thread

[cmcrawfo]

Sweet...

there is a redundant thread about words that may or may not go together.

Good on you OP for preserving the content of the original and preventing thread drift.

[FLS]

Pin number.

[klar]

"and/or" Choose the one you mean. A sign that says 'no food or drinks' surely does not mean that its OK as long as you have both. A sign that says 'no food and drinks' does not mean that its OK as long as you don't have both.

What does the programmer with the newborn say when someone asks "is it a boy or a girl?"


Yes.

[wyeaster]

I'd like to nominate this dive

hey! that place funds education in oregon i'll have you know! a little respect!!

[irul&ublo]

ha! I was redundant on the redundancy thread

I'm gonna call Alanis Morrisette and see if that's ironic

[HD333]

ATM Machine.

[irul&ublo]

And since flowing started nominations....