Atomic Hawx Ultra XTD aka Hawk Extended aka HawX

[onenerdykid]

GF got the hawx. She has a lot of pressure from the liner where it transitions from fabric to pleather. We did not mold them yet. Anyone deal with the same issue? Where's this magic mimic foam?

Mimic isn't foam - Mimic is a heat moldable plastic in the ankle area that gives the liner its anatomic shape. This material becomes fully moldable after the heating process and hardens in whatever shape you give it. Underneath that and next to skin is all of the heat moldable foam, which is most likely what will help with reducing pressure that your girlfriend is feeling.

[Cocximus]

Mimic isn't foam - Mimic is a heat moldable plastic in the ankle area that gives the liner its anatomic shape. This material becomes fully moldable after the heating process and hardens in whatever shape you give it. Underneath that and next to skin is all of the heat moldable foam, which is most likely what will help with reducing pressure that your girlfriend is feeling.

Thanks for clarifying. I failed to do my homework here and that is what the shop told me.

Do these specs look right?

[Cocximus]

Those specs have a bunch of errors. Both have 15-17 forward lean. GF finds them too far forward. Her calves were in a lot of pain and ended up skiing them out with the walk lever open. That instantly relieved pain. Do these ultra boots have a 13° plate?

[Ørion]

Those specs have a bunch of errors. Both have 15-17 forward lean. GF finds them too far forward. Her calves were in a lot of pain and ended up skiing them out with the walk lever open. That instantly relieved pain. Do these ultra boots have a 13° plate?

Hawx XTD Base Plate 13/19 Degrees, part #AZE001416

Available through your local Atomic dealer or online at Skimo.co

[Climber Joe]

Those specs have a bunch of errors. Both have 15-17 forward lean. GF finds them too far forward. Her calves were in a lot of pain and ended up skiing them out with the walk lever open. That instantly relieved pain. Do these ultra boots have a 13° plate?

Did she get the short cuff version? And did she take the spoiler off?

[Cocximus]

No, I never saw a short cuff option. She got the women version. There is no spoiler.

[onenerdykid]

Those specs have a bunch of errors. Both have 15-17 forward lean. GF finds them too far forward. Her calves were in a lot of pain and ended up skiing them out with the walk lever open. That instantly relieved pain. Do these ultra boots have a 13° plate?

That chart is definitely off. Here's what's wrong: sole type is GW + Tech Inserts, forward lean is 15° or 17°, last width is 98mm (26.5). Other info (like plastics) is correct.

As mentioned above, we do make a 13° flip chip but it needs to be ordered separately with this generation of boot.

Does your girlfriend have larger calf muscles? A larger calf muscle will make a 15° boot feel like 17° or 18° just because the muscle pushes her knee forward. Might be worth a discussion with your boot fitter about flaring the rear portion of the cuff which will allow her calf muscle to sit more appropriately in the cuff.

[kid-kapow]

cross post from NS:

I thought I should just chime in to give my feedback on the new Hawx Ultra 130 GW Boa boot with dual straps installed in the place of the stock ones. I have mine set up with 13 degrees forward lean, I run the spacers and also run custom footbeds. I have not cooked the liners and have three days in them thus far solely for resort use (the use they will see with me, resort fomo + travel boot).

These are by far the best iteration of the Hawx Ultra 130 thus far. The liner is really nice and supportive, heel hold is excellent, the cuff height is nice - the adjustable tongue is a nice feature and the dual strap actually works with this boot (something they did not do when I tried to run them on Lange XT3s - work = performance upgrade instead of just more hassle over Booster straps).

I do not get what SkiEssentials go on about in their review with regard to fit - these are not tiny wrt fit. Scarpa Quattro XTs are a lot lower volume.

The cons thus far is that like all three generations of Hawx that I've tried thus far these do not keep water out. I do not know why this remain an issue, but oh well - it is a spring time issue so no deal breaker, just a bit annoying. They are also the creakiest boots I've ever had. I've never had a boot that is anywhere near as loud when it is being flexed, though - it is not really an issue when skiing as your attention is elsewhere going mach looney or just larking about.

Overall impression? Excellent boot - perfect score of 5/7. Will def recommend.

[HukuTa_KydecHuk]

skiing for a week with Hawx Ultra XTD 130 BoA and honestly regretting buying the BOA version. Using BOA in cold temperatures is a pain. First of all, if you wear medium to thick mittens, it's almost impossible to pop BOA knob up to loosen the wire with one hand. Popping it with bare hand at -5F while the whole knob is covered with snow is a pure joy. Second - tightening BOA takes a LOT more time then just regular buckles. With buckles you just snap them down, you usually already have them in the right place on the ratchet. With BOA you have to rotate the knob for couple of seconds just to take all that loose cable and only after number of rotation you are starting to actually tighten the boots. All this just for a slightly better foot hold... not sure if it is worth.

Also a potshot at new Mimic liner. Who TF thought putting the whole liner tongue on a 1x1 inch size velcro is a good idea?! Several times I ripped the velcro just by taking my boots off. To put the tongue back you have to take the whole liner out and carefully slip the velcro under the cover.

And also the new boot strap. What was wrong with the previous one? Never had it loose or something... Now it has another pull-lever to open/close. Looks like over-complicating a very basic thing.