Fritschi Tecton

[TahoeJ]

So what's the final verdict on brake width for a 116mm ski? 110s or 120s?

My 120 brakes are fine... I will post an after mount photo for perspective.

[jacob_dbu]

So what's the final verdict on brake width for a 116mm ski? 110s or 120s?

I think you could go either way to be honest. The 110s are probably more resell-able though.

[LightRanger]

Cool. Yeah, would be ordering in the next few days. I'd like to as little edge overhang as possible because there's a possibility I'd have the skis on steep hard stuff even at that width. (Not ideal, but sometimes unavoidable.)

J, I know the 120s will fit. I'm just wondering if the 110s will without any real bending. Dremeling plastic is less problematic.

[CallMeAl]

So what's the final verdict on brake width for a 116mm ski? 110s or 120s?

110s fit my Steeple 116s without an issue.

[LightRanger]

110s fit my Steeple 116s without an issue.

Sweet. Thanks sir.

[grinch]

110s fit my Steeple 116s without an issue.

Thread drift but curious what length are your steeples and do you know the weight with or without the tectons ? Amazed at how capable my 102’s are and really damp inspite of having dynafit speed turns on them . Thinking 116 steeple rather than billy goat because they’re so damp. Tecton makes sense

[TahoeJ]

Cool. Yeah, would be ordering in the next few days. I'd like to as little edge overhang as possible because there's a possibility I'd have the skis on steep hard stuff even at that width. (Not ideal, but sometimes unavoidable.)

J, I know the 120s will fit. I'm just wondering if the 110s will without any real bending. Dremeling plastic is less problematic.

Upon closer examination... get the 110 brakes. They will be fine for sure. The overhang isn’t a big deal, I was turning them over pretty well on groomers and the brakes aren’t chewed up at all. But a tighter fit is always nice.

What skis are you putting them on anyway? If we have the same bindings and similar weight skis I’m going to run out of excuses. ;-)

[LightRanger]

Helio 116s.

Still on the fence with the impending move and soon-to-be-much-smaller cash flow. But think I'm going to do it.

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[1000-oaks]

Reposted info.

Some brake arm measurements taken on a Tecton heel, measured from the inside of the tips of the plastic ends. Might help folks figure out what they actually have, and what ski width the brake will fit.

Stated--- Unmounted Arm ------ Tips at ----------- Tips Fully
--Size-------- (tip to tip) ------------Topsheet -------- Deployed

90 --------------- 135 --------------------- 91 ------------------ 110
100 -------------- 152 ------------------- 102 ----------------- 122
110 --------------- 157 ------------------- 108 ----------------- 130
120 ------------- 170 -------------------- 130 ----------------- 147


Some details:

• There seems to have been some brakes labeled "115mm" in 2017 that were actually 110mm brake arms.
  
  
• Any of the brake arms can fit skis about 8mm wider than the "Tips at Topsheet" measurement if you grind off the inner points of the plastic brake arm ends a bit. (With the brakes mounted, move the brakes from stowed to deployed to see where they need to be ground to clear the topsheets.) If you do a heavier grind, you could go an additional 10mm or so. So with a mild inner tip grind, "90" brakes could probably fit 101mm width ski, "100" brakes could fit a 112mm ski, "110" brakes could fit a 118mm ski, and "130" brakes could fit a 140mm ski. This is without even bending the brake arms.

[grinch]

I asked this in the vipec thread but I guess I should ask it in here as well. Any beta is appreciated

“Does anyone know or have any info on whether or not that fritschi has demo bindings in either a viper or Tecton? Any info would be helpful. I’ve had a mismount on a newish pair of skis(2nd mount). I’m running out of options to salvage these skis. Latest mount is the vipec so thinking a demo vipec/Tecton with adjustable toe and longer heel track could be the answer. Is this a possibility for shops that want to rent them?”

[NorCalNomad]

Yeah I remember when they first launched they had demo plates.

I mean if you really had to I bet you could CAD up and CNC some longer alum. plates.

[telemon10]

I don't know for sure, but the paper template I downloaded from Wildsnow had a both demo and normal screw pattern for the heel. I believe the demo hole pattern had six screws.

[grinch]

Yeah I remember when they first launched they had demo plates.

I mean if you really had to I bet you could CAD up and CNC some longer alum. plates.

I don't know for sure, but the paper template I downloaded from Wildsnow had a both demo and normal screw pattern for the heel. I believe the demo hole pattern had six screws.

Thanks. Good beta. I’m really hoping the demo toe/plate , if it exists, has adjustment

[bean]

Black Diamond has the 60mm adjustment heel plate, give them a call or email about it. I know because I have some, needed it to make a remount work.

[stevied]

Black Diamond also has these demo plates. The mount in the same holes as Vipec and Tecton. 12 mm stack height. About 50 mm travel. They are meant for non-evo Vipec. Tecton heel is not quite a perfect fit.Attachment 225049

[grinch]

Black Diamond has the 60mm adjustment heel plate, give them a call or email about it. I know because I have some, needed it to make a remount work.

I think I’ll need those regardless. Thanks

Black Diamond also has these demo plates. The mount in the same holes as Vipec and Tecton. 12 mm stack height. About 50 mm travel. They are meant for non-evo Vipec. Tecton heel is not quite a perfect fit.Attachment 225049

Wow! Thanks sooo much . I’ll take the stack height if I can make this work. Save us all a headache , especially if it’s the same holes. Should be able to find out if we can make it work for evo

[galibier_numero_un]

Yeah, I remember adjustability only in the heels for Vipec demos (longer track). Same fixed mount toe as for regular Vipecs.

... Thom

[grinch]

Oh do those plates go together for the heels. I was under the impression the two on the left were for adjustable/demo toes and the two on the right the adjustable/demo heel tracks ?

[galibier_numero_un]

I've never seen those toe plates (and they're not referenced in the installation guide I have on file). That's a good find!

... Thom

[stevied]

Based on the markings I would say they go together. BD sells a heel only kit too. I think that would be the long plate with different screw pattern.

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[grinch]

Based on the markings I would say they go together. BD sells a heel only kit too. I think that would be the long plate with different screw pattern.

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You may have just saved a $1100 cad ski for me. Hopefully the shop can get them up here north of “the” border and they’ll work with an evo, or we can make them work . Thanks again

[LeeLau]

@Solesides - found the video confirming that TLT6 toe isn't endorsed for working with Tecton/Evo toe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuXDwwNZBjA

TLT6 heel also renders it incompatible with Tecton

[TahoeJ]

BTW Lee, earlier you mentioned transitioning the binding just like in the video when your brake pad cracked. When I first got mine I looked for the video and noticed they had deleted it. Which is interesting.

Big fan overall though- just ordered another pair to replace the kingpins on my skinny BC setup.

[goldenboy]

@Solesides - found the video confirming that TLT6 toe isn't endorsed for working with Tecton/Evo toe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuXDwwNZBjA

TLT6 heel also renders it incompatible with Tecton

That video does a great job explaining why boots without a standard toe won't release in a forward fall, which I referenced in the Hoji boot thread. The toe bumper needs to lever the boot out...

[kid-kapow]

https://www.wildsnow.com/11228/mount...ritschi-vipec/

seek and you shall find! As the mounting pattern is identical on all vipecs and tectons, the system should work with all generations i would think- Stack height increases a bit, but the measly 25mm rear adjustment on the stock vipec also grows significantly, either by a longer plate in the back or by the system depicted above

sorry for not posting this the other day - simply forgot. Crazy week.