Friday Haiku

**edg** · 06-02-2005, 04:46 PM

Using timezones I
Easily get the jump on
Gin and the OC!

edg

Z · 06-02-2005, 05:15 PM

well, interesting
you are the minority
being in Europe

I love the haiku
but something doesn't feel right
it is thursday man!

your mission, whether
you choose to accept or not
keep it here friday

**adam** · 06-02-2005, 06:41 PM

even though:

it's not friday
i will participate in
this haiku bros!

these months are going
by so fast, anyone having
this feeling also?

do i have to do
three haikus? is that the rule?
well, this is the third!

**snowfire** · 06-02-2005, 07:42 PM

loud ambulances
coming through my window oh!
shit they wake me up.

ghetto liquor store
undresses me with his eyes
next time wear big coat

library I sit
only one to see for miles
I must be a nerd

**shmerham** · 06-02-2005, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by edg

Using timezones I
Easily get the jump on
Gin and the OC!

edg

Well fuck me! I lose...
...again. Beat by the time zones.
Greenwich Mean Time man.

**bdog** · 06-03-2005, 06:55 AM

blue gray morning soft light
pulls open eyes not ready for day
covers pulled over head .. sleep

ravens squawking loudly outside window
damn noisy assholes in my own yard
karma for party last night

dawn creeps silent over peaks
snow still frozen crunches under vibram soles
smiles on the corn harvesters

**snow_slider** · 06-03-2005, 07:05 AM

RING RING RING RING RING
BANANA PHONE tune is stuck
in my head all day

**adam** · 06-03-2005, 07:12 AM

It's been three weeks since
I've felt snow under my feet
must ski soon . . .boredom

to have the cold snow
sliding beneath me is heaven
MUST SKI THE POWDER SOON!

Nothing compares to
Face shots off of chair one, i
like charging the steeps.

**Mountain Freak** · 06-03-2005, 07:17 AM

Going to snowboard
Headed back to Little Bear
Need to reach summit

Hope there is much snow
The hourglass should be fun
I hope I don't die

**edg** · 06-03-2005, 07:23 AM

I'll call for a
pizza, I'll call my cat, I
will call the white house,

Have a chat! I'll
place a call all round the world
Operator get

me bay-jing jing jing
jing! RING RING RING RING Banana
Phone! Opp oh be oh!

edg

**snow_slider** · 06-03-2005, 07:33 AM

Song stuck in my head
fucking edg and his damn song
BANANA PHONE rings

**Core Shot** · 06-03-2005, 07:35 AM

HAIKU OR SENRYU?
HOW TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE

by Elizabeth St Jacques

You are ready to submit your haiku to a competition that has haiku and senryu categories. The problem is, you're not sure which are haiku and which are senryu! Ok, let's try to find out. First, let's take a look at the basics of haiku.

While traditional three-line haiku of 17 syllables (5-7-5) are still acceptable, most modern haiku consist of fewer than 17 syllables and are written in one, two, three and four lines as well as a variety of shapes. Written in the present tense, a haiku focuses on nature, frequently includes or suggests a season word (kigo), and relates a moment of discovery/surprise (the "aha!" moment) with each line offering a distinct image. Also, within the haiku, a pivotal point (a pause) shifts to another image, thereby dividing the poem into two parts. The pivot occurs at the end of the first or second line.

In the past, humor and most particularly, human nature, were excluded from haiku, reserved specifically for senryu. Now, however, both regularly appear in haiku. Understandably, this has caused more than a little confusion. We'll touch on humor later, but right now, let's hear about human nature.

Francine Porad of Seattle, Washington and past President of the Haiku Society of America says, "There are some people who believe any reference to human beings in a haiku turns the poem into a senryu. I disagree. In my opinion there should be no separation, is no separation between human nature and the world of nature." Agreed! Francine adds, "Sometimes a poem fits both (haiku and senryu) categories."

Ahhh, that is the question: how to know when a poem fits one or both categories! As it turns out, telling the difference isn't so difficult after all.

George Swede of Toronto, Ontario, who co-founded Haiku Canada in 1977 and active in the international haiku community, provides the clearest and most logical answer I have found. After studying haiku types, he came to the conclusion that English-language haiku consist of "three content categories": Nature haiku, Human haiku (senryu), and Human plus nature haiku (hybrids). Examples follow each of George's astute findings:

"Nature haiku have no reference to humans or human artifacts and often have season words or kigo. They are what people typically assume haiku to be and comprise only around 20% of published work (in the best periodicals and anthologies)."

from wet clay
where no seed will grow
the worm
– Elizabeth St Jacques

glaring like a snake
in the grass the snake
in the grass
– George Swede

Midsummer dusk:
after the coo of doves
a softer silence
– H.F. Noyes

Season words in the above: "seed" refers to Spring; "snake" indicates Summer; and "Midsummer" speaks for itself.

George points out that his poem "has humor, yet it is a haiku and not a senryu. In other words, humor cannot be used to distinguish between haiku and senryu because both types can have humor or not."

You'll also note that "like a snake" is a simile. While similes (and other poetics) are frowned upon by many editors, this one works because of the delightful humor it evokes. Less experienced poets, however, would be well advised to avoid poetics until they gain more haiku experience.

"Human haiku (more often called senryu) include only references to some aspect of human nature (physical or psychological) or to human artifacts. They possess no references to the natural world and thus have no season words. (Human haiku) comprise about 20-25% of published work."

at the height
of the argument the old couple
pour each other tea
– George Swede

long commuter ride
a stranger discusses
his incontinence
– Francine Porad

billboard:
the black hole
in her Colgate smile
– Elizabeth St Jacques

George advises you to notice there are no references "to the natural world (excluding humans, of course). In (his senryu), tea is a human artifact." Why? Because a person has transformed the tea into a refreshment.

"Human plus nature haiku (or hybrids) include content from the natural as well as the human world (and) often include kigo. They are the most frequently published kind of haiku--around 60%."

his wife's garden:
certain he has moved
every plant twice
– Francine Porad

cold wind:
into the strawman's mouth
the quick little mouse
– Elizabeth St Jacques

in the howling wind
under the full moon
the snowman, headless
– George Swede

"Garden" and the act of transplanting indicate late Spring or early Summer; "cold wind" and "strawman" suggest Autumn; and "howling wind" and "snowman" imply Winter. George points out that "the snowman is a human artifact" -- as is "strawman" in my haiku. Also note the humor in Francine's haiku.

Of course, when submitting work to editors, most poets don't bother to indicate haiku or senryu, but let the editors decide. Nevertheless, it's to your benefit to learn how to tell the difference between these genres, if only for competitions that demand differentiation.

Now that you know how to do that, it'll be a snap to sort out your haiku and senryu and submit them to the correct categories of poetry competitions. Happy sorting and the best of luck!

**edg** · 06-03-2005, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by Core Shot

HAIKU OR SENRYU?
HOW TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE

by Elizabeth St Jacques

You are ready to submit your haiku to a competition that has haiku and senryu categories. The problem is, you're not sure which are haiku and which are senryu! Ok, let's try to find out. First, let's take a look at the basics of haiku.

While traditional three-line haiku of 17 syllables (5-7-5) are still acceptable, most modern haiku consist of fewer than 17 syllables and are written in one, two, three and four lines as well as a variety of shapes. Written in the present tense, a haiku focuses on nature, frequently includes or suggests a season word (kigo), and relates a moment of discovery/surprise (the "aha!" moment) with each line offering a distinct image. Also, within the haiku, a pivotal point (a pause) shifts to another image, thereby dividing the poem into two parts. The pivot occurs at the end of the first or second line.

In the past, humor and most particularly, human nature, were excluded from haiku, reserved specifically for senryu. Now, however, both regularly appear in haiku. Understandably, this has caused more than a little confusion. We'll touch on humor later, but right now, let's hear about human nature.

Francine Porad of Seattle, Washington and past President of the Haiku Society of America says, "There are some people who believe any reference to human beings in a haiku turns the poem into a senryu. I disagree. In my opinion there should be no separation, is no separation between human nature and the world of nature." Agreed! Francine adds, "Sometimes a poem fits both (haiku and senryu) categories."

Ahhh, that is the question: how to know when a poem fits one or both categories! As it turns out, telling the difference isn't so difficult after all.

George Swede of Toronto, Ontario, who co-founded Haiku Canada in 1977 and active in the international haiku community, provides the clearest and most logical answer I have found. After studying haiku types, he came to the conclusion that English-language haiku consist of "three content categories": Nature haiku, Human haiku (senryu), and Human plus nature haiku (hybrids). Examples follow each of George's astute findings:

"Nature haiku have no reference to humans or human artifacts and often have season words or kigo. They are what people typically assume haiku to be and comprise only around 20% of published work (in the best periodicals and anthologies)."

from wet clay
where no seed will grow
the worm
– Elizabeth St Jacques

glaring like a snake
in the grass the snake
in the grass
– George Swede

Midsummer dusk:
after the coo of doves
a softer silence
– H.F. Noyes

Season words in the above: "seed" refers to Spring; "snake" indicates Summer; and "Midsummer" speaks for itself.

George points out that his poem "has humor, yet it is a haiku and not a senryu. In other words, humor cannot be used to distinguish between haiku and senryu because both types can have humor or not."

You'll also note that "like a snake" is a simile. While similes (and other poetics) are frowned upon by many editors, this one works because of the delightful humor it evokes. Less experienced poets, however, would be well advised to avoid poetics until they gain more haiku experience.

"Human haiku (more often called senryu) include only references to some aspect of human nature (physical or psychological) or to human artifacts. They possess no references to the natural world and thus have no season words. (Human haiku) comprise about 20-25% of published work."

at the height
of the argument the old couple
pour each other tea
– George Swede

long commuter ride
a stranger discusses
his incontinence
– Francine Porad

billboard:
the black hole
in her Colgate smile
– Elizabeth St Jacques

George advises you to notice there are no references "to the natural world (excluding humans, of course). In (his senryu), tea is a human artifact." Why? Because a person has transformed the tea into a refreshment.

"Human plus nature haiku (or hybrids) include content from the natural as well as the human world (and) often include kigo. They are the most frequently published kind of haiku--around 60%."

his wife's garden:
certain he has moved
every plant twice
– Francine Porad

cold wind:
into the strawman's mouth
the quick little mouse
– Elizabeth St Jacques

in the howling wind
under the full moon
the snowman, headless
– George Swede

"Garden" and the act of transplanting indicate late Spring or early Summer; "cold wind" and "strawman" suggest Autumn; and "howling wind" and "snowman" imply Winter. George points out that "the snowman is a human artifact" -- as is "strawman" in my haiku. Also note the humor in Francine's haiku.

Of course, when submitting work to editors, most poets don't bother to indicate haiku or senryu, but let the editors decide. Nevertheless, it's to your benefit to learn how to tell the difference between these genres, if only for competitions that demand differentiation.

Now that you know how to do that, it'll be a snap to sort out your haiku and senryu and submit them to the correct categories of poetry competitions. Happy sorting and the best of luck!

Dude, that so does
not fit the format above,
quit it now, I beg!

edg

**adam** · 06-03-2005, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by Core Shot

HAIKU OR SENRYU?
HOW TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE

by Elizabeth St Jacques

You are ready to submit your haiku to a competition that has haiku and senryu categories. The problem is, you're not sure which are haiku and which are senryu! Ok, let's try to find out. First, let's take a look at the basics of haiku.

While traditional three-line haiku of 17 syllables (5-7-5) are still acceptable, most modern haiku consist of fewer than 17 syllables and are written in one, two, three and four lines as well as a variety of shapes. Written in the present tense, a haiku focuses on nature, frequently includes or suggests a season word (kigo), and relates a moment of discovery/surprise (the "aha!" moment) with each line offering a distinct image. Also, within the haiku, a pivotal point (a pause) shifts to another image, thereby dividing the poem into two parts. The pivot occurs at the end of the first or second line.

In the past, humor and most particularly, human nature, were excluded from haiku, reserved specifically for senryu. Now, however, both regularly appear in haiku. Understandably, this has caused more than a little confusion. We'll touch on humor later, but right now, let's hear about human nature.

Francine Porad of Seattle, Washington and past President of the Haiku Society of America says, "There are some people who believe any reference to human beings in a haiku turns the poem into a senryu. I disagree. In my opinion there should be no separation, is no separation between human nature and the world of nature." Agreed! Francine adds, "Sometimes a poem fits both (haiku and senryu) categories."

Ahhh, that is the question: how to know when a poem fits one or both categories! As it turns out, telling the difference isn't so difficult after all.

George Swede of Toronto, Ontario, who co-founded Haiku Canada in 1977 and active in the international haiku community, provides the clearest and most logical answer I have found. After studying haiku types, he came to the conclusion that English-language haiku consist of "three content categories": Nature haiku, Human haiku (senryu), and Human plus nature haiku (hybrids). Examples follow each of George's astute findings:

"Nature haiku have no reference to humans or human artifacts and often have season words or kigo. They are what people typically assume haiku to be and comprise only around 20% of published work (in the best periodicals and anthologies)."

from wet clay
where no seed will grow
the worm
– Elizabeth St Jacques

glaring like a snake
in the grass the snake
in the grass
– George Swede

Midsummer dusk:
after the coo of doves
a softer silence
– H.F. Noyes

Season words in the above: "seed" refers to Spring; "snake" indicates Summer; and "Midsummer" speaks for itself.

George points out that his poem "has humor, yet it is a haiku and not a senryu. In other words, humor cannot be used to distinguish between haiku and senryu because both types can have humor or not."

You'll also note that "like a snake" is a simile. While similes (and other poetics) are frowned upon by many editors, this one works because of the delightful humor it evokes. Less experienced poets, however, would be well advised to avoid poetics until they gain more haiku experience.

"Human haiku (more often called senryu) include only references to some aspect of human nature (physical or psychological) or to human artifacts. They possess no references to the natural world and thus have no season words. (Human haiku) comprise about 20-25% of published work."

at the height
of the argument the old couple
pour each other tea
– George Swede

long commuter ride
a stranger discusses
his incontinence
– Francine Porad

billboard:
the black hole
in her Colgate smile
– Elizabeth St Jacques

George advises you to notice there are no references "to the natural world (excluding humans, of course). In (his senryu), tea is a human artifact." Why? Because a person has transformed the tea into a refreshment.

"Human plus nature haiku (or hybrids) include content from the natural as well as the human world (and) often include kigo. They are the most frequently published kind of haiku--around 60%."

his wife's garden:
certain he has moved
every plant twice
– Francine Porad

cold wind:
into the strawman's mouth
the quick little mouse
– Elizabeth St Jacques

in the howling wind
under the full moon
the snowman, headless
– George Swede

"Garden" and the act of transplanting indicate late Spring or early Summer; "cold wind" and "strawman" suggest Autumn; and "howling wind" and "snowman" imply Winter. George points out that "the snowman is a human artifact" -- as is "strawman" in my haiku. Also note the humor in Francine's haiku.

Of course, when submitting work to editors, most poets don't bother to indicate haiku or senryu, but let the editors decide. Nevertheless, it's to your benefit to learn how to tell the difference between these genres, if only for competitions that demand differentiation.

Now that you know how to do that, it'll be a snap to sort out your haiku and senryu and submit them to the correct categories of poetry competitions. Happy sorting and the best of luck!

You are confusing me
with your literature, please
stop this meaningless

jibber jabber. taking out
the trash is not fun, but it
has to be done, sadly.

the trash smells like shit,
i had to pick it up, a
bear ripped the bag open

stupid bear! i will hunt
him down and eat his foot, would
you say i'm being

a little bit over
reactant? it still makes
me mad, although, the

bear doesn't know that
it makes me angry, so the
bear is not at fault

i've probably messed
up the haiku rhythm, please
forgive me, i'm dumb!

whew!