Climate Change

[bodywhomper]

Thx for the link to the other article about indoor AQ.

Yurp jumped on the biomass bandwagon with pellets and apparently that is driving US deforestation. We burn dead/down wood, never cut live (public land). Some argue the soil captures the CO2 to some extent during decay.

Hey, I use an electric saw and wood splitter exclusively now

Natural gas is apparently 67% fracked, and propane is derived from that source. So the comparison with wood also must include the environmental/water usage from fracking. Same with lithium batteries and mining destruction. Lotta variables to consider in this game of sustainability.

My understanding and observation is that decay and uptake of the carbon from dead woody debris into the soil biome is dependent on the ecosystem and status of the ecosystem.

Biomass energy: it’s really going to depend on specific variables. Use of excessive biomass for local energy production… that’s a goal of policy makers in California as hopeful to mitigate wildfire hazard.

Forest harvests in the SE for biomass pellets in Europe… the nature conservancy regrets supporting that work and has previously been hesitant to support any other biomass energy project.

There’s a lithium mine proposal in California that may result in extinction of a rare plant.

[old goat]

Free Wapo article about the idea of exceeding climate goals and then lowering temps with CO2 capture
https://wapo.st/3zRBFHE
Executive summary--we're in deep doodoo

[Trackhead]

Paywall…..

[fomofo]

Try browser reader view as soon as it's enabled when page is loading.

[old goat]

Paywall…..

Shouldn't be--one of my shareable articles for the month. Maybe they only allow one viewing?

[bodywhomper]

My understanding and observation is that decay and uptake of the carbon from dead woody debris into the soil biome is dependent on the ecosystem and status of the ecosystem.

Biomass energy: it’s really going to depend on specific variables. Use of excessive biomass for local energy production… that’s a goal of policy makers in California as hopeful to mitigate wildfire hazard.

This article is describing the point that I was trying to make here^^ and an earlier post. Here’s part,
“In the short-term, reducing surface fuels and numerous small- to intermediate-sized trees will result in both a release of accumulated C into the atmosphere and an initial reduction in C stocks (Hurteau and Brooks 2011). These outcomes may seem inconsistent with overall goals of reduced greenhouse gas emissions and increased C sequestration. However, studies have demonstrated that fuel reduction treatments can reduce C losses when treated stands are subsequently burned by wildfire (Finkral and Evans 2008, North et al. 2009, Hurteau and North 2010, Zhang et al. 2010). Furthermore, treated stands in many dry forest types in the western U.S. represent more stable structures for long-term forest C sequestration (Hurteau and Brooks 2011). “

https://esajournals.onlinelibrary.wi...0/ES11-00289.1

Note, the emphasis on “dry forest types.”

There may be research that contradict this Stevens piece. I’d be curious to see it.

[rideit]

https://fb.watch/v9gm5UNlDG/?fs=e&s=TIeQ9V

[old goat]

As temperatures rise wetland bacteria produce more methane which causes faster warming/
Holy feedback loop, Batman!!
https://www.energy.gov/arctic/articl...e%20atmosphere.

[xyz]

Drill baby drill!


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[kamtron]

Le sigh

[Supermoon]

We are so royally fucked.

[old goat]

We are so royally fucked.

If Schumer can get his No Kings Act passed we'll still be fucked, but not royally.

Meanwhile, New Yorker article on Greenland vis a vis climate change.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...e-arctic-melts

[FigureELEVEN11]

AC last night woohoo. Needed it a few times and not just for 5 mins.

[Trackhead]

Here’s a fun one (I think this is a gifted version).
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2...climate-risks/

Paywall

[skaredshtles]

Paywall

https://archive.ph/TAexh

[bodywhomper]

https://archive.ph/TAexh

Thanks. How do you create/get an archive link?

[Trackhead]

Here’s a fun one (I think this is a gifted version).
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2...climate-risks/

Paywall

[bodywhomper]

What the shit! Idk how I deleted my post, but here’s the archive version of the article that I tried to post. Thanks skaredshtles
https://archive.ph/TAexh

[old goat]

Paywall

I had no problem reading. Maybe I can read a limited number of free articles. Or my VPN.

[skaredshtles]

Thanks. How do you create/get an archive link?

Super easy, señor - just go to archive.ph and stuff the offending URL in and voila!

[bodywhomper]

Super easy, señor - just go to archive.ph and stuff the offending URL in and voila!

Thanks!!

[frorider]

AMOC update. https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ry-study-finds

Well darn. I was hoping it’d collapse so I could just move to Yurp and enjoy long cold winters.

[old goat]

Well, we won't know if it collapses or not, since Elon is busy firing at NOAA and the NWS.

[Trackhead]

Yet we just read headlines we were fucked by 2030 about six months ago. I don’t doubt the credibility of the scientists doing their best with a complex prediction, but I do question the media who only publishes click bait for scientific uncertainty, at best.

[old goat]

You would get that impression if you only read the headlines. I find in the papers I read regularly--mainly NYT and WAPO (not so sure about continuing that one) the alarming headlines are generally followed by balanced reporting that acknowledges the uncertainty. Headlines are written by different people than the ones who write the articles (and the NYT just announced they will be using AI to write headlines. Contributing to climate change.) I do think it's pretty clear that warming is happening faster than earlier models predicted. Natural climate variation--the kind the deniers say has always occurred and is happening now--does not produce the noticeable change within the lifetimes of individuals that is happening now.