Climate Change

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Why should we stop travelling more when the loudest people telling us to do so have the biggest carbon footprint? I’ll travel less when bill gates and dicaprio take the bus.


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Interesting, so you’re petty and spiteful. I don’t listen to celebrities or captains of industry when making my decisions btw, I use my conscience


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[subtle plague]

Oh, you can be assured that climate change had something to do with it...

1.5 degrees( communist Celsius) more is quite the fuel for storms.
( I chose friday because hurricane tend to well up colder water after them)

[xyz]

Oh, you can be assured that climate change had something to do with it...

If it’s a bad event it’s climate change. If it’s not, it’s just weather.


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[skaredshtles]

If it’s a bad event it’s climate change. If it’s not, it’s just weather.

[PB]

Although ...... too much good weather is a bad event too.

[subtle plague]

If it’s a bad event it’s climate change. If it’s not, it’s just weather.


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Since we like average weather as humans to decide where to live and more extreme Events are more likely due to climate change ( well except prolonged cold spells..hooray) you're right. Any deviation from average is bad. Drought, heat waves, extreme precip. So yes. Bad weather is more likely im climate change conditions.

[old goat]

On Nova they were explaining that in the Carboniferous Period when things were really flat and really wet a large of big trees were falling into bogs when they died, and were preserved in the low 02 environment, instead of breaking down and releasing their CO2 to be absorbed by new trees. These trees sequestered so much carbon that CO2 levels in the atmosphere fell, causing an Ice Age that covered almost all the planet. So a little greenhouse effect is a good thing. All things in moderation.

[xyz]

Since we like average weather as humans to decide where to live and more extreme Events are more likely due to climate change ( well except prolonged cold spells..hooray) you're right. Any deviation from average is bad. Drought, heat waves, extreme precip. So yes. Bad weather is more likely im climate change conditions.

Why is a changing climate always a bad thing? There is likely upside to a warming climate. Think of all the farmable land that will open up in Canada.


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[uglymoney]

Why is a changing climate always a bad thing? There is likely upside to a warming climate. Think of all the farmable land that will open up in Canada.


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The soil is like an inch think up there, where they have any at all. That is why it dries out so fast and everything burns when it doesn't rain.

We had a record drought here in my home county and yields are still 130 to 190 bushels an acre vs a ten year average of 195, 219 last year. Most grass stayed green. Almost no fires. Because our soil is so good and continued to provide moisture to deep roots. A breadbasket for a reason.

You gonna truck all of our soil up to Ontario once it is too hot and dry to grow here? No.

Try again.



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[BCMtnHound]

Ontario may be big, but there’s more to Canada than just the shield. The prairies would love the climate of South Dakota.

But as a whole, the cost will outweigh the benefits. Last thing we need is more US refugees in our healthcare system.

[old goat]

Climate change would not be a problem if we were still nomads. And even being mostly city folk we could probably adapt if change happened over millenia instead of decades. While there have been climate extremes far more dramatic than what we are facing in the next few generations they unfolded over much longer periods of time, and when they didn't--well ask a dinosaur how that worked out if you can find one.

[uglymoney]

Ontario may be big, but there’s more to Canada than just the shield. The prairies would love the climate of South Dakota.

But as a whole, the cost will outweigh the benefits. Last thing we need is more US refugees in our healthcare system.

It rains in Ontario though. And Iowa. We don't even irrigate 99% of cropland here. Exceptions are sand veins here and there, like in Muscatine where they grow melons.

The Dakotas and plains of Canada are in the shadow of the rockies. Definitely can be productive but not on the same level. Add some heat and that land becomes arid pretty fast, and water to irrigate coming off the rockies becomes ever more unreliable, not to mention already depleted aquifers.

Just saying, you can't just move everything north. It is delusional at best.

[uglymoney]

Further illustration of my point here. Fascinating stuff.

This article talks about the shifting of the 100th meridian dividing line east, due to climate change. Now more like the 98th meridian. Sustained drought keeps creeping our way.

https://www.earthmagazine.org/articl...ent%20research.

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[Garfield3d]

Why is a changing climate always a bad thing? There is likely upside to a warming climate. Think of all the farmable land that will open up in Canada.


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Why is climate change bad? Uh, because it will displace/kill tens of millions of people. Farmable land in Canada is such a minor 'silver lining' detail in comparison to that. Trying to make the argument that "climate change must be universally bad in every measurable category in every situation to actually be considered bad" is such a ridiculous position that I think I've stumbled onto a satire post.

[xyz]

Why is climate change bad? Uh, because it will displace/kill tens of millions of people. Farmable land in Canada is such a minor 'silver lining' detail in comparison to that. Trying to make the argument that "climate change must be universally bad in every measurable category in every situation to actually be considered bad" is such a ridiculous position that I think I've stumbled onto a satire post.

Not just about more farmland. But also less deaths due to cold. Cold deaths exceed heat deaths atm.


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[old goat]

Not just about more farmland. But also less deaths due to cold. Cold deaths exceed heat deaths atm.


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Definitely a satire post.

[The AD]

Why is a changing climate always a bad thing? There is likely upside to a warming climate. Think of all the farmable land that will open up in Canada.

For one thing there are many living things that are not as adaptable as human beings and climate change will decimate their populations and probably cause many species to go extinct. Its pretty lame to just consider the effects if will have on humans.

[xyz]

For one thing there are many living things that are not as adaptable as human beings and climate change will decimate their populations and probably cause many species to go extinct. Its pretty lame to just consider the effects if will have on humans.

Nothing is a one way street. The planet is resilient. The earth has been changing and adapting for billions of years. Volcanic eruptions have benefits after the destruction.


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[The AD]

Nothing is a one way street. The planet is resilient. The earth has been changing and adapting for billions of years. Volcanic eruptions have benefits after the destruction.

That's true, but there's a difference between us fucking up the planet versus the natural course of things over millions of years. The scary thing is how quickly the climate change is happening right now. I would hope we can all agree that human beings shouldn't be affecting the global climate if we can possibly avoid doing so.

[skaredshtles]

[old goat]

That's true, but there's a difference between us fucking up the planet versus the natural course of things over millions of years. The scary thing is how quickly the climate change is happening right now. I would hope we can all agree that human beings shouldn't be affecting the global climate if we can possibly avoid doing so.

It's time to stop arguing with this guy. Sounds like he's serious and clueless.

[The AD]

It's time to stop arguing with this guy. Sounds like he's serious and clueless.

Probably right. I've got to say the two things deniers lean on that drive me nuts are: 1. the climate always changes, and 2. warmer temperatures could actually be a good thing.

[ghosthop]

Nothing is a one way street. The planet is resilient. The earth has been changing and adapting for billions of years. Volcanic eruptions have benefits after the destruction.

The wet bulb deaths that are going to happen in places like the Indian subcontinent will be horrific and happening in our lifetime. The planet is indeed resilient but humanity may not be.

[PB]

Reminds me of a fellow grad student who insisted with a straight face that a nuclear war wouldn't be so bad- we could just go into the local libraries and find all the information on how to rebuild things, returning to normal in a decade or two. She had other issues too, but this one really left my lower jaw on the floor.

[raisingarizona13]

It's not really about temperatures or the loss of ecosystems as much as once millions of people are displaced and don't have food and water or any shelter world wars will break out. Hungry desperate people tend to start killing one another. It's going to get really shitty man.

An interesting thought I've had is how a lot of the pro vaccine/mask people are often also extremely left and concerned with global warming. It seems to me that the biggest problem linked to climate change is the fact that there's WAY too many people on this planet and that's the root of the climate crisis. If you want to combat climate change you'd think you'd be pro super virus and thinning the herd a little.

So yeah, take your mask off and help fight climate change eh?