Climate Change

[MontuckyFried]

Thanks, I appreciate that. Yeah, that was a contractor failure made worse by weather and some missed decisions. And not to defend anyone but that failure could have been so much worse and what was discharged while not drinkable was also not shit water. Since then LML has invested heavily in water treatment and that includes disposal of treated water like what got away. I believe plans call for spray irrigation in selected areas around 5 months out of the year and make snow with it for 4 months or so in early winter. Be interesting to see if Big Sky follows suit.

I had a feeling you'd know a little something about it. Thanks for the insight.

[Core Shot]

This new information makes shitty snow conditions a reality.

[PB]

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Back then, they got it done for around 60 million (equivalent of about 1.2 billion today). The CA HSR ALONE is estimated to be around 88-128 billion. So like 100x the cost of the transcontinental railroad system that covered the entire goddam country, and yeah, that's taking inflation into account. How can we overcome that? I honestly don't know.

For better or worse, it really was a remarkable project! Absolutely changed the course of history for the United States' place in the world.

Well, cheap (slave) Chinese labor helped.

[k2skier112]

Then in 1882 the Chinese Exclusion Act was passed. We're done with "those" imagrants, keep them out now!

[The SnowShow]

Terrifying flooding in Libya. Is it safe to say this shit is happening more often in more places these days? 16” of rain in a day. Holy fuck.

[MontuckyFried]

Well, cheap (slave) Chinese labor helped.

True, true. Like I said, for better or worse. We DID just get a fresh bumper crop of Central Americans to exploit... err.... "employ" tho! Maybe that's who'll build out Rail 2.0.

Maybe the 1800s railroad construction went a little something like in Blazing Saddles?:

[Core Shot]

Could be climate change.
Or. It could be the weather warfare that goes on these days.
Operation Popeye wiped put the Ho Chi Minh trail. And that was over fifty years ago.

Or. Climate change is real. And countries are struggling with weather control technology to make the most of what time we have left.

I tend to believe the latter.

[PB]

How do you sleep at night???

[teamdirt]

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/12/03/a...hnk/index.html

[DoYou WannaDance]

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/12/03/a...hnk/index.html

Pretty sure the Western US did this last winter why else would the USA get nuked while inner BC and Alberta got absolutely dick and one of their driest winters ever.

Got no problem with this either as humans we have to adapt and survive to climate and the environment and as a civilized society population growth is as essential as oxygen and clean water for our survival. Cloud seed away and apologize latter the warts that come with it are worth it.

[Core Shot]

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/12/03/a...hnk/index.html

Scary Chinese. That’s a lot of area they plan on Geoengineering.

But nothing much to say about us efforts. Or Dubai or any other wealthy country.

“He who controls the weather controls the world”
Quote by LBJ back in the sixties.

Weather as a force multiplier.
https://archive.org/details/WeatherAsAForceMultiplier
Written in 1996 with the goal of owning the weather by 2025

Crazy hail. Torrential rains. Snow in the desert. Extremely cold snow in the Dakota’s after 80 degree weather days earlier and hundreds of thousands of cattle flash frozen.

Nothing to see here.

PS. Don’t eat snow anymore.

[bodywhomper]

Because of their government, China seems to be able to deploy tech advances at a large national scale much easier than the US or other democratic-ish nations. Cloudseeding that I’m aware of in the US is deployed at a state or lower level. The clouds immediately over (or entering) a targeted watershed are seeded from a small plane or from the ground and they drop more water or snow, generally in that targeted area. It’s been going on in California for decades. There are studies, I think out of Canada, where thunderheads were seeded to (successfully) mitigate hail storms - dropped as rain instead.

[bodywhomper]

Dp

[teamdirt]

https://www.chathamhouse.org/2022/02...ather-warriors

[muted reborn]

Scary Chinese. That’s a lot of area they plan on Geoengineering.

But nothing much to say about us efforts. Or Dubai or any other wealthy country.

“He who controls the weather controls the world”
Quote by LBJ back in the sixties.

Weather as a force multiplier.
https://archive.org/details/WeatherAsAForceMultiplier
Written in 1996 with the goal of owning the weather by 2025

Crazy hail. Torrential rains. Snow in the desert. Extremely cold snow in the Dakota’s after 80 degree weather days earlier and hundreds of thousands of cattle flash frozen.

Nothing to see here.

PS. Don’t eat snow anymore.

Finally a weather patriot telling some truth-telling facts!

What about Africa having some sort of machine that creates hurricanes that *always* get pointed to the states. Who's behind that? Just asking questions here. What bugs me is all the big fans off-shore near Boston protecting the rich and blowing these massive storms up to Nova Scotia. These fans double are actually wind farms - but I bet, just a hunch here guys, they have motors in them deep below the sea and turn on to protect the coastal elite. Anyone see pics of them spinning during a hurricane?? Exactly. very suspicious IMO.

[skaredshtles]

Finally a weather patriot telling some truth-telling facts!

What about Africa having some sort of machine that creates hurricanes that *always* get pointed to the states. Who's behind that? Just asking questions here. What bugs me is all the big fans off-shore near Boston protecting the rich and blowing these massive storms up to Nova Scotia. These fans double are actually wind farms - but I bet, just a hunch here guys, they have motors in them deep below the sea and turn on to protect the coastal elite. Anyone see pics of them spinning during a hurricane?? Exactly. very suspicious IMO.

[Core Shot]

Finally a weather patriot telling some truth-telling facts!

What about Africa having some sort of machine that creates hurricanes that *always* get pointed to the states. Who's behind that? Just asking questions here. What bugs me is all the big fans off-shore near Boston protecting the rich and blowing these massive storms up to Nova Scotia. These fans double are actually wind farms - but I bet, just a hunch here guys, they have motors in them deep below the sea and turn on to protect the coastal elite. Anyone see pics of them spinning during a hurricane?? Exactly. very suspicious IMO.

Nothing I said in that post was untrue. All facts. Read the news or history sometime.

If you wanna speculate about ionospheric heaters and resilient high pressure heat domes that’s harder to prove. Same with changing the jet stream. But there are patents on each. I’m sure our benevolent overlords are only patenting theoretical shit and never using it.

[AK47bp]

Idiot #1 quotes idiot #2.

Idiot #1 claims everything is a fact that idiot #2 said/wrote.

While idiot #1 is technically correct that idiot #2 said / wrote those things, who is checking that idiot #2 was correct?

Idiot #3.

The cycle of idiocracy folks.


Carry on

[LongShortLong]

RR got to hang on to the mineral rights, so they got to drill for oil or mine. A pretty controversial topic at the time that those lands came intact with the mineral rights to begin with.
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See: The Pacific Railroad Act of 1862, in which around 130 million acres were awarded to the rail companies.
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Back then, they got it done for around 60 million (equivalent of about 1.2 billion today). The CA HSR ALONE is estimated to be around 88-128 billion. So like 100x the cost of the transcontinental railroad system that covered the entire goddam country, and yeah, that's taking inflation into account. How can we overcome that? I honestly don't know.

Pretty sure you have an accounting error here, documented in your own post. If CAHSR was granted 130 million acres of land and mineral rights bordering its tracks, they could build the RR for not much additional expense.

You still wouldn't convince me the HSR is a worthy project. It's a colossal waste of money and will require massive subsidies to operate if they complete it. Probably also an environmental disaster - I have a hard time believing it'll ever be more carbon efficient than a flight or Zoom call or a Honda Civic driving on I-5. It's a vanity greenwash project for my fellow voters.

Voters may have good hearts (questionable), but they are terrible at math.

[bodywhomper]

I have not thought closely about the California HSR project in a long time.

There needs to be alternative ways for people to move around the state/country besides cars, buses, automobile, and air. Electric powered rail seems like a good solution.

[old goat]

Pretty sure you have an accounting error here, documented in your own post. If CAHSR was granted 130 million acres of land and mineral rights bordering its tracks, they could build the RR for not much additional expense.

You still wouldn't convince me the HSR is a worthy project. It's a colossal waste of money and will require massive subsidies to operate if they complete it. Probably also an environmental disaster - I have a hard time believing it'll ever be more carbon efficient than a flight or Zoom call or a Honda Civic driving on I-5. It's a vanity greenwash project for my fellow voters.

Voters may have good hearts (questionable), but they are terrible at math.

HSR is clearly less efficient than a zoom call.
Other than that, rail transport is clearly more energy efficient than cars and planes, but only of course if the train is reasonably full. The question is whether there would ever be enough utilization of rail to pull significant cars off the road and significant planes out of the sky.

[Bunion 2020]

The question is whether there would ever be enough utilization of rail to pull significant cars off the road and significant planes out of the sky.

If I could easily and at a reasonable price pull my ride onto a train, kick back in a nice Pullman style car and relax while the train cranked out 1000-1500 miles or more, I would like that. But the Eisenhower Administration and the Auto Industry built all these nice roads that we have barely paid off.

[Core Shot]

Auto trains would be awesome. Have your car and luggage driven onto a train and get a sleeper car?
Boston NYC Cleveland chicago Denver slc Reno San fran

That would nice.

[old goat]

If I could easily and at a reasonable price pull my ride onto a train, kick back in a nice Pullman style car and relax while the train cranked out 1000-1500 miles or more, I would like that. But the Eisenhower Administration and the Auto Industry built all these nice roads that we have barely paid off.

Fortunately, as our cities are swept away by floods and hurricanes or burn up in firestorms we'll be able to start all over and do it right.

[petey_]

we'll be able to start all over and do it right.

This used to be real estate
Now it's only fields and trees
Where, where is the town
Now, it's nothing but flowers
The highways and cars
Were sacrificed for agriculture
I thought that we'd start over

David Byrne the optimist?