"All weather" tires in place of winter tires

[east or bust]

So far so good on the Yok G015s. Got to play a bit in the couple inches that fell in the Denver burbs.

287 between Foco and Laramie was pretty spicy yesterday with the wind. There was a ton of leftover carnage from a day or two prior, probably 10ish banged up vehicles abandoned on the side of the road... one roll over. Guy in front of me towing an empty horse trailer almost got blown off the road numerous times. Our traction was solid.

Proper snows waiting on deck for real winter.

[Name Redacted]

FYI simpletire.com has a pretty good cyber Monday sale going on today if anyone is in the market. Got some e-rated Wildpeaks for the Tundra w/ camper ~$1600 w/ extra warranty. Free shipping too. Got the wife some new snow tires too. That puts me at all new tires on our fleet of 5 vehicles this year. Hopefully we are good for a while ugh.

I've been rocking KO2s on my Sequoia for a few weeks in snow and they seem as good if not better than the Nordmans that I used to have on my Tacoma, different vehicles though.

[bennettc14]

Are these the Pirelli WeatherActives? Had some in my cart and almost pulled the trigger. Getting some all weathers for new Atlas, had Wildpeaks on my Tiguan and might go that route.

[Aldo]

I've been running all weather tires for a few years now - Have been pleased for sure. Of course I live just outside the heat island so I'm far from a high alpine environment . That being said - it does get cold and it does snow here. In my travels north - I'm liable to experience rain at onset going into ice then packed snow then deep snow - anything's possible. I'm also a firm believer in being prepared when you need traction. Nokian WRG4's have been really nice as a year round choice for me. Between 2 pairs on an XC70 and an A4 Avant they've been really responsive in the dry all summer, think 2 summers by now, plenty of bite in packed snow and icy conditions - a great compromise IMHO. Think I have close to 30k on both pairs and they holding up really well.

[bennettc14]

Just scored set of GEOLANDAR CV 4S which I think just came out in October. Will report back.

[lowsparkco]

Are these the Pirelli WeatherActives? Had some in my cart and almost pulled the trigger. Getting some all weathers for new Atlas, had Wildpeaks on my Tiguan and might go that route.

No. Pirelli Cinturato P7’s if that question was for me.

[MyNameIsAugustWest]

Just got a new to me car and it came with Michelin CrossClimate2 tires. It has the 3 peaks/snowflake rating but they are classified as all-seasons. The car is AWD (a first for me). Anybody got any opinions on these tires? Since it's going to rain 2" all over Vermont early next week, I have some time to get snows if the Michelins won't cut it.

[J. Barron DeJong]

Just got a new to me car and it came with Michelin CrossClimate2 tires. It has the 3 peaks/snowflake rating but they are classified as all-seasons. The car is AWD (a first for me). Anybody got any opinions on these tires? Since it's going to rain 2" all over Vermont early next week, I have some time to get snows if the Michelins won't cut it.

They normally test at or near the top for all weather tire in snow and just a pretty good tire overall:

https://www.tire-reviews.com/Article...-Tire-Test.htm

You won’t get much better from an all season, but a good true winter tire is still going to be better in snow, and more so on ice.

We put a set on our CX-3 last spring, but still switching out for winters.

[MyNameIsAugustWest]

^ thanks for the beta.

My wife's Ridgeline (AWD) has Blizzaks so maybe I'll just keep the Michelins on the new car and if it's storming, drive her car.

[CaliBrit]

Put the crossclimate on our 4Runner AWD. Intend to leave them on all year round. So far on limited snow here in Sun Valley they seem fine.

[Aldo]

Congrats on the new ride mang, I’m not a fan of those Michelins - they tend to get pretty loud as they age with the tread design. Not a fan. I’d go dedicated snows if I were you or keep it parked- but I’d also make sure the alignment/ inflation / rotation is pretty consistent to negate the future noise!

[MyNameIsAugustWest]

Thanks A. I’ll probably use it as a ”good weather” ride. Wife’s Ridgeline can cover the 3 days of winter we’re likely to have this year. Onboard system says the tires are overinflated. I’ll adjust tomorrow.


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[whambat]

Curious if anyone has tried the Bridgestone Weatherpeaks. Got the winter rating and look like a better tread than the Crossclimate. Saw them at Costco the other day and they had me wondering.

[aanev]

Second winter with Michelin CrossClimate 2. I have them on two cars - Fiat Doblo FWD and BMW 3-series X-drive. They are nice all-rounders with decent, though not stellar, snow performance.
I have chains in the trunk but never had the occasion to use them.

[MyNameIsAugustWest]

Congrats on the new ride mang, I’m not a fan of those Michelins - they tend to get pretty loud as they age with the tread design. Not a fan. I’d go dedicated snows if I were you or keep it parked- but I’d also make sure the alignment/ inflation / rotation is pretty consistent to negate the future noise!

Put about 1,000 miles on the Michelin CrossClimate2 over the holidays. Loud? Yes. Vibration? Yes. Pretty sure I'm not going to like these tires even though the cheapskate in me says deal with it. Car has a B-service coming up and I'm going to have an alignment check done then. No pull or even a shimmy in the steering wheel but I can feel a very slight vibration. Pretty sure it's the tires...

[Meadow Skipper]

Put about 1,000 miles on the Michelin CrossClimate2 over the holidays. Loud? Yes. Vibration? Yes. Pretty sure I'm not going to like these tires even though the cheapskate in me says deal with it. Car has a B-service coming up and I'm going to have an alignment check done then. No pull or even a shimmy in the steering wheel but I can feel a very slight vibration. Pretty sure it's the tires...

FWIW, I’ve never had any problems like that in my 2 sets of CCs. And they’re pretty great in New Mexico snow.

[CaliBrit]

Put about 1,000 miles on the Michelin CrossClimate2 over the holidays. Loud? Yes. Vibration? Yes. Pretty sure I'm not going to like these tires even though the cheapskate in me says deal with it. Car has a B-service coming up and I'm going to have an alignment check done then. No pull or even a shimmy in the steering wheel but I can feel a very slight vibration. Pretty sure it's the tires...

Mine are great. Perhaps your balance is fucked up.

[aanev]

Mine are great. Perhaps your balance is fucked up.

+1

[MyNameIsAugustWest]

^ hope you are right. I'll have them check that as well (obviously).

[The SnowShow]

FYI simpletire.com has a pretty good cyber Monday sale going on today if anyone is in the market. Got some e-rated Wildpeaks for the Tundra w/ camper ~$1600 w/ extra warranty. Free shipping too. Got the wife some new snow tires too. That puts me at all new tires on our fleet of 5 vehicles this year. Hopefully we are good for a while ugh.

I've been rocking KO2s on my Sequoia for a few weeks in snow and they seem as good if not better than the Nordmans that I used to have on my Tacoma, different vehicles though.

I’m between KO2s and Wildpeaks for my 4Runner. Have you found either to be better than the other in snow (IE driving I70 on a powder day)?

[Name Redacted]

I’m between KO2s and Wildpeaks for my 4Runner. Have you found either to be better than the other in snow (IE driving I70 on a powder day)?

The KO2's on the Sequoia have been really good. Just got the Tundra back with the Wildpeaks on it and haven't driven it much but around town yesterday it seemed fine. It does have about 1500 lbs in the bed though. From what I've read the KO2s are great at first but loose traction as they wear. People rave about the Wildpeaks and they do have better tread depth, but we will see.

Honestly though, after driving I70 daily for the last 25+ winters, a majority of it w/ KO2s, I can't imagine that there's that big of a difference to be noticed. The Wildpeaks are generally a lot cheaper and similarly rated. KO2 are American and Wildpeaks are imported from Japan if you care. For me the Wildpeaks were way cheaper in the LT305/55R20 E-rated tire size so it made sense. For the Sequoia, there wasn't a LT version available for my size in the Wildpeaks so I got KO2s.

[The SnowShow]

The KO2's on the Sequoia have been really good. Just got the Tundra back with the Wildpeaks on it and haven't driven it much but around town yesterday it seemed fine. It does have about 1500 lbs in the bed though. From what I've read the KO2s are great at first but loose traction as they wear. People rave about the Wildpeaks and they do have better tread depth, but we will see.

Honestly though, after driving I70 daily for the last 25+ winters, a majority of it w/ KO2s, I can't imagine that there's that big of a difference to be noticed. The Wildpeaks are generally a lot cheaper and similarly rated. KO2 are American and Wildpeaks are imported from Japan if you care. For me the Wildpeaks were way cheaper in the LT305/55R20 E-rated tire size so it made sense. For the Sequoia, there wasn't a LT version available for my size in the Wildpeaks so I got KO2s.

Thanks. And I assume both are excellent off-roading for you (in summer/fall)?

[steved]

MT's Baja Boss AT passed the test last spring in the late winter snow/mud around a bunch of mountains up in Maine on my 4R, 5th gen. Going to get it lifted a little sometime before I bite the dust. It will see interesting to see how they do with the initial winter freeze-up from wet conditions. Wildpeaks have looked nice as well. The various CrossClimates in the family definitely have the winter tread pattern. Will also be listening for feedback from new GEOLANDAR CVx...

[donutlynx]

x-post - Subaru steelies mounted with Firestone Winterforce and (most of the) studddds. Free w/ pickup in SW Oregon (or meet w/in reasonable distance).

https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...79#post7022979

[SnowMachine]

A bit of an update on Wilpeak AT3W. I cannot recommend them highly enough for HD truck owners. I'm not well into my second winter without heavily degraded performance. I'm a huge fan and will replace with another set at the end of next summer.

Back story: The only other tire I've gotten two seasons from was a Duratrac and they simply aren't as good on ice. My truck is heavy, I tow a lot and usually eat tires in 20-25k miles. Like I said, AT3W is going through the second winter. I expect to get 40k from these. I'll call that a win.

I'm equally impressed with the Toyo MT's on my Jeep. NOT a winter tire, but wildly good when the snow is deep. The Jeep makes magic somehow. It'll go anywhere in any conditions on that tire, so if you want a MT that's passable in snowy conditions....