Anyone have anything they'd like to rant about?

[Andeh]

SDG makes 19mm kids grips too.

[muted reborn]

Locally, a metric crapton learn via NICA, which is all about coaching how to act on the trail as it is how to ride on the trail.

Thats awesome. Many kids here will learn thru them too, these kids are everywhere. I wonder if they teach the enjoyment of getting a stick to make a channel to drain a puddle off the trail? Most times it does't take long to do. Its satisfying when on an out-and-back and see almost all the water gone from a puddle on your way back. I feel like Im the only one - or on the flip side everyone does it way before I ride the trail, ha. Who knows.

Evdog thats ridiculous!

[skaredshtles]

Thats awesome. Many kids here will learn thru them too, these kids are everywhere. I wonder if they teach the enjoyment of getting a stick to make a channel to drain a puddle off the trail? Most times it does't take long to do. Its satisfying when on an out-and-back and see almost all the water gone from a puddle on your way back. I feel like Im the only one - or on the flip side everyone does it way before I ride the trail, ha. Who knows. Evdog thats ridiculous!

I will often do this when I am out. Moreso when I'm hiking. Creek running down the trail? Often it just takes a little work to move a few rocks that are preventing things from flowing off-trail. 5 minutes later the problem is pretty much gone. I know this probably is not a long-term solution, but I feel like it helps.

[zion zig zag]

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Thats awesome. Many kids here will learn thru them too, these kids are everywhere. I wonder if they teach the enjoyment of getting a stick to make a channel to drain a puddle off the trail? Most times it does&#39;t take long to do. Its satisfying when on an out-and-back and see almost all the water gone from a puddle on your way back. I feel like Im the only one - or on the flip side everyone does it way before I ride the trail, ha. Who knows. Evdog thats ridiculous!

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I think they mostly teach them to ride in groups of 20, sprint like mad for 200-300 yards and then all stop in the middle of the trail for a few minutes.&nbsp;</p>

[muted reborn]

SharedSkittles, me too. Its not like we are heros saving trails but a little work helps.
ZZZ, but they all say thank you have a good ride when you pass them or they pass you over and over and over...did you see todays announcement of the new NICA racing trail near Snowbasin? Sounds like a great trail but it will be your worst nightmare, ha.

[zion zig zag]

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SharedSkittles, me too. Its not like we are heros saving trails but a little work helps. ZZZ, but they all say thank you have a good ride when you pass them or they pass you over and over and over...did you see todays announcement of the new NICA racing trail near Snowbasin? Sounds like a great trail but it will be your worst nightmare, ha.

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And built by Alan Wheelright. So it will &nbsp;be 7 miles of way too many switchbacks that feels like its &nbsp;uphill both directions. Awesome. But hey, maybe it will contain a ton of NICA kids and they wont be spread all over the good trails?&nbsp;</p>

[singlesline]

Apparently handlebars on kid's bikes come in two diameters; normal adult size (22.2mm), and a smaller diameter that's 19mm, which makes sense since kids have small hands. Except grips for the smaller size are basically non-existent, and unsurprisingly my kids destroy grips. Any online search for 19mm grips just yields tons of shitty Amazon links to grips that are not actually 19mm.

Funn appears to be the only company making actual 19mm grips, but I think the ones they make are too long to fit on my kid's bar. We'll see.

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I think I’ve still got some leather strips if you want to make some retro grips. Fits any size bar!




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[XXX-er]

ODI lockon are probably the slimmest adult sized grips so i use a 27$ work glove with big knuckle strip for riding which protect and last forever


ODI have 2 lock rings on each grip so if junior is dropping the bike on the bar the outer end ring protects the grip


I like them because I transport my bike on its side in a PU also tagging trees in the singletrack destroys grips

[VTskibum]

Rant in a picture:

Approaching this at trail speed from the opposite direction is terrifying. Our new-ish trail crew lead’s wife/gf is extreme novice but this is ridiculously more dangerous at trail speed having handrails, looks wider in my pic than it really is given that first branch bows out.


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[toast2266]

^^^ Good rant. Especially for a not particularly high bridge like that, that doesn't really need railings at all. There are a few bridges in my vicinity that have railings that are barely wide enough to fit bars through. I hate them passionately.

[jm2e]

Fortunately it looks like you could just lean against them and break the whole railing down.


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[VTskibum]

I think the rail posts will have a visit from Mr Sawzall pretty soon if the builder doesn't take care of it. Have seen at least a few others constructively complain. I don't get the mentality of sanitizing everything to meet your skillset mentality?!?!

Trail I regularly ride at another trail system has a log bridge probably 10-12" wide elevated 6'+ above a rocky creekbed that I usually skip riding and pull over and walk it. Lost art I suppose is getting off and walking something rather than sanitizing everything.

[Andeh]

The only sort of catch I'd want on a bridge like that would be a "kickboard" style lip along the outside, maybe 2" high. Just enough to stop the front tire from sliding off when riding it in the wet.

[jackstraw]

Rant in a picture:

Approaching this at trail speed from the opposite direction is terrifying. Our new-ish trail crew lead’s wife/gf is extreme novice but this is ridiculously more dangerous at trail speed having handrails, looks wider in my pic than it really is given that first branch bows out.


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Clearly you're supposed to manual across it.

The only sort of catch I'd want on a bridge like that would be a "kickboard" style lip along the outside, maybe 2" high. Just enough to stop the front tire from sliding off when riding it in the wet.

I want nothing. Commit to going off if you're going. A curb could throw you and not the bike. I want the bike with me to absorb impact...potentially. and wet bridges...just slow down...that's a losing proposition most of the time.

[Eluder]

My chainsaw would rant the shit out of those railings.

[jackstraw]

I just re-read that. The lead trail builder!? This isn't a hiking trail!? Maybe he's trying to kill the wife/gf

[XXX-er]

Well my buddy has become a quad trying to cross a bridge petty much like that one so the rails could have saved him we don't know if he passed out or was just not great mtn biker but thats what happened

[XXX-er]

Yeah the rant pluck Shimano North America they would not sell me a new EP8 motor for my Eeb


meanwhile an LBS bloke in england tells me he can get EP8s in 3 days so the product is not obselete


Shimano North America just sucks dead goats SO pluck Shimano North America


IME do not buy an Eeb with the Shimano motor

[jackstraw]

Well my buddy has become a quad trying to cross a bridge petty much like that one so the rails could have saved him we don't know if he passed out or was just not great mtn biker but thats what happened

He's your buddy and you don't know if he could ride a MTB decently or not? And thats how he was injured? Are you sure you know him?

I know a guy who became a quad also. He ripped and was a trailbuilder. Sent a huge drop and that was it. Years ago now when the tech/geo wasn't nearly as good. He gets outs to the trails on his AWD wheelchair...with help.

[XXX-er]

He doesnt really remember what happend he wonders if he passed out which is why he crashed I think he got a concussion broken nose the rescue guy who packaged him out said he was heading down the trail but i hear he was heading up the trail so nobody really knows


he got medevaced to vancover came back 6 months later I think I only ever ridden real mtn bike with him once once mostly he would ride an old mtn bike on the roads so buddy was not a real mtn biker but what is decent so I would say it wasnt really his thing he was with his daughter


I have skied a bunch with him, even got in an avalanche


I have 3 buds who are quads from mtn bikes one was from trying to send jumps at whistler one who had a front wheel colapse and this guy who met his fate on a super easy bridge like the one in the picture

[jackstraw]

Ah, mtb is dangerous AF. Shit happens so quick.

My elbow is bleeding/leaking puss thru my bandage onto my shirt as I type this from a really stupid otb yesterday [emoji16]. Came into berm way to hot for the loose conditions and thought I could blast thru/over the redwood shrubbery on edge of tree. I failed. That shit is firm...like steel firm.

[XXX-er]

What you failed is to wear protection I wear knee sleeves elbow pads helmet always

[VTskibum]

I just re-read that. The lead trail builder!? This isn't a hiking trail!? Maybe he's trying to kill the wife/gf

Overstated his very much volunteer trail maintenance coordinator “position” that no one else ver really wants. This is the 2nd most visited state park in PA (900k annually at Marsh Creek supposedly), but there is no trail organization, which can be good and bad. We do get good bit of help trimming overgrowth mid summer on once NICA teams start riding officially.


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[jackstraw]

What you failed it to wear protection I wear knee sleeves elbow pads helmet always

I wear knee pads always. Sometimes a helmet [emoji23]

[evdog]

The mix and match lumber and natural doesn't work, that thing is hideous. If it was me I'd cut the uprights down to about 2ft high and reattach the railings. That way they would be below anyone's handlebar height but you could still say the railings are there.