Wildlife

[MakersTeleMark]

I agree 1000%. Fortunately they're also smart enough to learn from periodic small arms fire and keep their distance. Go too long, however, and they'll be on the lawn.

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Reminds me of racoons. Side note, completely ignorant and serious, I've never met a wolf, any easy ways besides size of distinguishing it from a coyote?

[Supermoon]

Reminds me of racoons. Side note, completely ignorant and serious, I've never met a wolf, any easy ways besides size of distinguishing it from a coyote?

I doubt you’ll confuse them. The wolves I’ve seen (all in captivity) have been huge.

[MakersTeleMark]

Looking at the release stats, they all seem to be at or pushing 100 lbs. I know that when I see it. Was wondering if there were any other major distinguishing features. Was hanging with a 120 lb. golden tonight. Trying to picture that in coyote form and not slobbering at my dish or face in a nice way.

[Supermoon]

Found this online.

One thing I’ve noticed is wolves have really long legs compared to a regular dog, where coyotes are more traditionally dog shaped.

[MakersTeleMark]

I wonder if there are besides size again, paw print differences. Will look up. I have unfortunately had to kill a few dogs in my time, hope that never has to happen again, especially with something that hudge.

[old goat]

When I lived in Tucson I came home to find a coyote sitting on its haunches at the front door of my condo. It left but not in any particular hurry.

[Thaleia]

We have a number coyotes (well coywolves actually) in town and yeah they're ballsy as hell.

[east or bust]

My roommates and I had a small ~40lb female husky in college, there was a wolf hybrid around the corner and it seemed 3x bigger. The most stark difference was the leg length and paw size, they were fucking huge.

This is a decent article that covers all of the differences.

https://www.fieldandstream.com/hunti...vs-coyote/?amp

WRT to paws…

“While coyote paw prints typically range from 2 1/8 to 3 1/16 inches long and 1 5/8 to 2 1/2 inches wide, wolf paw prints typically range from 3 1/2 to 5 1/2 inches long and 3 3/4 to 5 inches wide.”

[Supermoon]

A wolf with a five inch paw is terrifying

[old goat]

My roommates and I had a small ~40lb female husky in college, there was a wolf hybrid around the corner and it seemed 3x bigger. The most stark difference was the leg length and paw size, they were fucking huge.

This is a decent article that covers all of the differences.

https://www.fieldandstream.com/hunti...vs-coyote/?amp

WRT to paws…

“While coyote paw prints typically range from 2 1/8 to 3 1/16 inches long and 1 5/8 to 2 1/2 inches wide, wolf paw prints typically range from 3 1/2 to 5 1/2 inches long and 3 3/4 to 5 inches wide.”

If you are close enough to check out the snout and the ears and live, it's a coyote.

[Dantheman]

Reminds me of racoons.

The racoon comparison is apt. Both animals have become exceptionally well adapted to urban environments. The 'burbs of almost any major metro area have sizeable coyote populations (that most people never see since they become almost entirely nocturnal).

[skiJ]

I have seen what I consider to be two classes of wolves on the U.p. -
the Grey wolves I see do not greatly concern me - to me, they are the size of a large Labrador retriever ;
years ago, I saw one several times that was using cty hwyQ as a trail ;

I have also seen a Timber wolf that was bigger than the deer it was chasing - almost four feet tall at the shoulder and unbelievably long ( probably eight feet nose to tail ). Unbelievably Tall and long !
I thought it was an Irish wolf hound that someone had let run...
I have had two encounters that confirm the Timberwolves.

years ago, in the middle of a Winter night, Blue, my companion Chesapeake let out the most instinctive Warning growl I have ever hear from a dog
( it was a once in a lifetime experience for Blue ) ;
in the morning I went out and the wolf prints were Almost the size of my hand ( size10 ), and a stride-length that seemed to approach six feet...
Just passing by. . .

coyotes are not big - but
sometimes I get confused by photos with nothing to reference size.

in my experience, I believe I was more likely to see coyotes who did not mind being seen and had no interest in interacting, and could disappear in a matter of seconds ;

again in my experience, wolves are more interested in never being seen
( we never saw the wolf on hwyQ from less than fifty years).

Good luck ! skiJ

[Thaleia]

The racoon comparison is apt. Both animals have become exceptionally well adapted to urban environments. The 'burbs of almost any major metro area have sizeable coyote populations (that most people never see since they become almost entirely nocturnal).

Explains why the fam is all surprised when I have seen another coyote and they haven't seen one in years/ever. You guys aren't gazing outside some nights at 3 am?!

[BCMtnHound]

It’s the wolves here that keep the ‘coons and ‘yotes number in check. The raccoons are very much riparian and don’t migrate far each year so their ingress is very slow, but only if the wolf numbers are down and the farmers are keeping the wolves out of the river valley bottom.

[PB]

Riparian raccoons: love dem backyard koi/goldfish ponds!

[Powder Ho]

Part of the local herd.

[Powder Ho]

[plugboots]

B-I-L’s deck, 10 feet from their back door.

[Supermoon]

Hey Bob!

[lifelinksplit]

If you are close enough to check out the snout and the ears and live, it's a coyote.

Umm no. Your California is showing. Look up wolf killing people stats. And lots of coyotes get shot in Montana because they harass livestock etc and it's perfectly legal(whether or not I agree with it).

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[old goat]

B-I-L’s deck, 10 feet from their back door.

Sent by the other neighboring wildlife to tell BIL it's time to take down the xmas lights.

Umm no. Your California is showing. Look up wolf killing people stats. And lots of coyotes get shot in Montana because they harass livestock etc and it's perfectly legal(whether or not I agree with it).

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It was a dad joke. And IRL most people aren't going to get close enough to either one to identify by ear and snout shape.

[The Reverend Floater]

I have seen what I consider to be two classes of wolves on the U.p. -
the Grey wolves I see do not greatly concern me - to me, they are the size of a large Labrador retriever ;
years ago, I saw one several times that was using cty hwyQ as a trail ;

I have also seen a Timber wolf that was bigger than the deer it was chasing - almost four feet tall at the shoulder and unbelievably long ( probably eight feet nose to tail ). Unbelievably Tall and long !
I thought it was an Irish wolf hound that someone had let run...
I have had two encounters that confirm the Timberwolves.

years ago, in the middle of a Winter night, Blue, my companion Chesapeake let out the most instinctive Warning growl I have ever hear from a dog
( it was a once in a lifetime experience for Blue ) ;
in the morning I went out and the wolf prints were Almost the size of my hand ( size10 ), and a stride-length that seemed to approach six feet...
Just passing by. . .

coyotes are not big - but
sometimes I get confused by photos with nothing to reference size.

in my experience, I believe I was more likely to see coyotes who did not mind being seen and had no interest in interacting, and could disappear in a matter of seconds ;

again in my experience, wolves are more interested in never being seen
( we never saw the wolf on hwyQ from less than fifty years).

Good luck ! skiJ

Timber wolves aren't actually a species nor sub species. Most folks refer to Eastern Wolves as timber wolves, but they're smaller than a grey wolf. "Timber Wolf" has become a catch-all for a few different sub species of Grey Wolf along the northern US. Sort of like calling a Robin a songbird.

If you're lucky enough to see a grey wolf in the wild, there's no mistaking them for a coyote. They're giant. So tall that at a distance, you might think they're mule deer or something similar... until they move.

Our coyotes are around 30-35 lbs. They look bigger because of their coats, especially this time of year. Grey wolves here are 75-100 lbs and are much lankier. When you see one walking, it's sort of like seeing a shark swim in that your brain immediately screams, "predator!" They're badass animals.

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[swimmy]

Speaking of wolves, we were lucky to have an encounter last Sunday in Lamar Valley. So cool. My third one ever.

[skiJ]

Timber wolves aren't actually a species nor sub species. Most folks refer to Eastern Wolves as timber wolves, but they're smaller than a grey wolf. "Timber Wolf" has become a catch-all for a few different sub species of Grey Wolf along the northern US. Sort of like calling a Robin a songbird.

If you're lucky enough to see a grey wolf in the wild, there's no mistaking them for a coyote. They're giant. So tall that at a distance, you might think they're mule deer or something similar... until they move.

Our coyotes are around 30-35 lbs. They look bigger because of their coats, especially this time of year. Grey wolves here are 75-100 lbs and are much lankier. When you see one walking, it's sort of like seeing a shark swim in that your brain immediately screams, "predator!" They're badass animals.

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noted. Thank you

skiJ

[Jax]

Excellent shots Swimmy