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  1. #4101
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    Quote Originally Posted by toast2266 View Post
    T9 is grippier. It lands somewhere between maxxis maxxterra and maxxgrip.

    Butcher is a fine tire, but it's basically a dhf clone that's slightly worse (it's cheaper though, so the marginal trade off in grip is worth it if you're trying to save some bucks).
    Finally getting around to buying tires. Just noticed I'm on the DHF MaxxTerra. Is the difference in the MaxxGrip noticeable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slcdawg View Post
    Finally getting around to buying tires. Just noticed I'm on the DHF MaxxTerra. Is the difference in the MaxxGrip noticeable?
    Yup. Noticeably more grip on roots and rocks. Doesn't make a huge difference in sand / gravel / loose surfaces. Rolls noticeably slower, and wears faster.

    Personally, I like a maxxgrip on the front, maxxterra on the rear. Maxxgrip rear doesn't last long and feels like a chore going uphill. If I find a deal on one, I'll sometimes run maxxgrip on the rear for bikes that don't get pedaled uphill too much.

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    Cool, thanks. Sounds like there may not be much diff for a front tire on front range.

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    I run a maxxgrip EXO in front. I don't need a burly casing on a front tire, which is pretty much always rolling. The REAR tire is sliding a lot, so need the sidewall protection (and to prevent snake bites from fat-ass). I get around 1500mi on a DHF maxxgrip in front on my enduro rig, and around 800-1000 in rear with a maxxterra. Maxxgrip in rear would be changing tires every month, and be slow AF to pedal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slcdawg View Post
    Cool, thanks. Sounds like there may not be much diff for a front tire on front range.
    The only time you’d want a Maxxgrip in the FR is if was raining and you were on a bunch of roots. Low odds. Pointy FR rocks and loose shit will kill a MaxxGrip pretty quickly.



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    Quote Originally Posted by joetron View Post
    The only time you’d want a Maxxgrip in the FR is if was raining and you were on a bunch of roots. Low odds. Pointy FR rocks and loose shit will kill a MaxxGrip pretty quickly.



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    Or if you’re going to ride Idaho Springs.
    Or if you’re headed to Angle Fire.


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    However many are in a shit ton.

  7. #4107
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    I had a sofa king stupid moment putting on new tires. The corner knobs were pretty shredded on my old DHF. I could have sworn I recently replaced it in the fall...must have been planning on replacing it. No wonder I was washing out. New DHF and back at it.

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    Any XC riders running Spec'd tires? My HS son is looking for a xc tire to race with and I'm seeing some good deals on the Fast Trak or Ground Control - but the Spec site doesn't provide a lot of info. The races are mostly dry, with a mix of hardpack and moondust (Eagle, Steamboat), some loose over hardpack but not technical at all.

  9. #4109
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    I used to run Spec tires all the time, and the sale will get me back on some. Fast Trak is a good tire, both F/R. I don't know the differences between the 5 and 7 designations. Get the Control version for strong sidewalls.

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    Im heading to Squamish in June. Any tire recommendations outside my DH Kryptotals F/R? Running Super soft up front and Soft out the back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iowagriz View Post
    I used to run Spec tires all the time, and the sale will get me back on some. Fast Trak is a good tire, both F/R. I don't know the differences between the 5 and 7 designations. Get the Control version for strong sidewalls.
    Some really good deals, definitely will be checking them out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slcdawg View Post
    Any XC riders running Spec'd tires? My HS son is looking for a xc tire to race with and I'm seeing some good deals on the Fast Trak or Ground Control - but the Spec site doesn't provide a lot of info. The races are mostly dry, with a mix of hardpack and moondust (Eagle, Steamboat), some loose over hardpack but not technical at all.
    I wouldn't say I'm full-XC but I like to ride fast and on leaner tires. I started running a Ground Control T7 2.35 as my rear on my Izzo last year, with a Dissector 2.4 up front. I'm riding mostly here in the RFV but some Fruita/Moab/Sedona. The bike came with Forekaster v1's and those rolled a bit faster but wore down pretty quick. I've been really happy with the GC's so far and they've shown minimal wear and my climbing times haven't suffered.

    I have a buddy who rides GC T5 on his Revel and loves them and feels they have plenty of grip for CO style riding. I think your son grabbing some GC T5's would be In the modern reality of $100+ Maxxis and Schwalbe tires everywhere, sub-$50 Spec's are solid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpinevibes View Post
    I wouldn't say I'm full-XC but I like to ride fast and on leaner tires. I started running a Ground Control T7 2.35 as my rear on my Izzo last year, with a Dissector 2.4 up front. I'm riding mostly here in the RFV but some Fruita/Moab/Sedona. The bike came with Forekaster v1's and those rolled a bit faster but wore down pretty quick. I've been really happy with the GC's so far and they've shown minimal wear and my climbing times haven't suffered.

    I have a buddy who rides GC T5 on his Revel and loves them and feels they have plenty of grip for CO style riding. I think your son grabbing some GC T5's would be In the modern reality of $100+ Maxxis and Schwalbe tires everywhere, sub-$50 Spec's are solid.
    Thanks, appreciate the info. He raced state in Glenwood/Cdale last year, so a great comparison. He would shave a little over a pound going from current setup to GC's. Even more with a GC/FT F/R setup. And to your point, much cheaper than an Ardent Race or similar.

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    I've been running GC front/Slaughter in the rear this season and have been happy with it so far.
    If you need a Spec tire guide: https://www.jensonusa.com/blog/specialized-tire-guide
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    Quote Originally Posted by sfotex View Post
    I've been running GC front/Slaughter in the rear this season and have been happy with it so far.
    If you need a Spec tire guide: https://www.jensonusa.com/blog/specialized-tire-guide
    Thanks for the link, this is better than the spec site. Ended up getting a pair of GC T5's for the Bailey hundo (loose kitty litter) and a rear Fast Trak for HS race season which is more hard pack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtlange View Post
    Im heading to Squamish in June. Any tire recommendations outside my DH Kryptotals F/R? Running Super soft up front and Soft out the back.
    Assegai/DHR II seems to be the most common choice. For the most part, Squamish trails don’t have particularly jagged rocks, so you could likely get away with EXO+, at least up front.

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    OK, looking for a fast rolling rear tire for the dry rocky hardpack of New Mexico.
    Looking for good weight:toughness ratio (Reasonably tough/reasonably light - 1200+gm need not apply) Prefer something in the high 900-low 1000gram neighborhood for a 2.4.
    Obvious choices are Aggressor, Trail Boss, & possibly Nobby Nic.
    Thoughts on these or any other recs.
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    After the first three seconds, Corbet's is really pretty average.
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    But hey, I'm sure your kids will be sharp as tacks.

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    I'm in Reno NV, with plenty of loose over hard rocks, some sand, no mud, occasional real dirt. My pick of those would be the Aggressor.

    I have had poor experiences with Schwalbe.
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    New Michelin Wild Enduro tires. Sorry if already posted.

    https://m.pinkbike.com/news/first-ri...tter-2024.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roxtar View Post
    OK, looking for a fast rolling rear tire for the dry rocky hardpack of New Mexico.
    Looking for good weight:toughness ratio (Reasonably tough/reasonably light - 1200+gm need not apply) Prefer something in the high 900-low 1000gram neighborhood for a 2.4.
    Obvious choices are Aggressor, Trail Boss, & possibly Nobby Nic.
    Thoughts on these or any other recs.
    I’m currently running a Vittoria Martello as a faster rolling rear and am happy with it.

    I did move to the enduro casing instead of trail for the extra protection - cut the trail casing that came on the bike originally. Though I always ran DD casing on the rear before, so not surprising the lighter Vittoria casing didn’t hold up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong View Post
    I’m currently running a Vittoria Martello as a faster rolling rear and am happy with it.

    I did move to the enduro casing instead of trail for the extra protection - cut the trail casing that came on the bike originally. Though I always ran DD casing on the rear before, so not surprising the lighter Vittoria casing didn’t hold up.
    Comments in the size? I've got 1 ready to go and the old e13 tire sizing has really spoiled me. Their 2.35 is huDge(tm). Especially since it's old and getting clapped out. Measured with calipers the other day and the casing alone is around 2.35, let alone the side knobs pushing 2.4.
    I just have the gray trail version.
    No longer stuck.

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    Just an uneducated guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Comments in the size? I've got 1 ready to go and the old e13 tire sizing has really spoiled me. Their 2.35 is huDge(tm). Especially since it's old and getting clapped out. Measured with calipers the other day and the casing alone is around 2.35, let alone the side knobs pushing 2.4.
    I just have the gray trail version.
    I have the 2.4 (older ones were 2.35). Just measured it at 60.5mm for the casing, 60mm at the tread.

    Haven’t ridden yet this year, so not fully pumped up, though it does still feel fairly firm.

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    Last November I put a brand new Spesh Grid Trail T9 Hillbilly up front on my Bronson … didn’t touch the bike all winter until today, and whooooo doggy. Conditons were damp clay loam mix with a number of wet spots including standing water. The Hillbilly got a slight revision with some block in block treads. The T9 rubber, Grid Trail casing, and maybe that new block design, all made for a very smooth and damp ride, much more so than a Grid T7 Hillbilly. Of course in these conditions the tire was glued to the trail, very smooth transfer from side to side. The old Grid T7 Butcher I had out back wasn’t biting nearly as well in the corners and the difference in dampness was noticeable. Grid Trail T9 Hillbilly is marvelous for soft conditions!
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    Think I've settled on the Aggressor.
    Next question, I generally go 2.6 Front/2.4 Rear
    Aggressor has either 2.3 or 2.5WT. Do these tend to run big or small?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    After the first three seconds, Corbet's is really pretty average.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Malcolm View Post
    I mean, it's not your fault. They say talent skips a generation.
    But hey, I'm sure your kids will be sharp as tacks.

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    maxxis runs smaller than advertised. I'd run 2.3". 2.5" too slow/heavy.
    Last edited by SJG; 04-18-2024 at 06:56 PM.

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