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  1. #4426
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    New Season, New Tires, New Thread

    That’s a common complaint about the dissector. Great tire but Wears much too fast. Haven’t heard of the casings being problematic before but idk

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    I dunno about the Dissector warping more than any other tire but the things dont have the best reputation. I wore mine out in maybe two months of mostly moderate riding.
    Exo casing should be used as purely an XC ad well IMO.

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    If a Maxxis DHF with a yellow label isn’t marked with a compound, what would it be? Dual compound?

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    ZZZ, I believe that's Dual.
    Also, I just bought a Rekon Exo+ 3c for a rear tire on my SB150 as an experiment. Currently running a maxx grip DD Dissector. Thinking the Rekon would be good for dry summer New England riding. I don't do anything super gnarly, just somewhat aggressive trail riding. Paired with Exo+ Assegai up front.
    Terrible idea? Will I die?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpinevibes View Post
    Something to consider: [Per my tire inquiry above, after much Tech Talky handwringin] i ended up ordering the e- Aggaro Trail 29x2.35, which is a slightly harder rubber version of the normal Agarro and intended to wear longer for use on e-MTB. Same weight and tread pattern. I’ll hopefully have it mounted this week and we’ll see how it feels. Might be a nice rear?
    Cool.
    Are you guys wearing out Maxxis on the rear really fast running triple or dual? 3c on the rear seems like it would wear a lot faster than dual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Just an uneducated guess.

  6. #4431
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    For a trail bike, most of the time I'd choose DC on the rear from a wear and rolling resistance standpoint. Grip isn't notable different in drier conditions. Maybe on slabby terrain? Probably on wet / roots.
    Dissectors are the mayfly of the tire world, regardless of the compound.

  7. #4432
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    Rightcoast - You won't die but your bike might be embarrassed from the oddly mismatched combo. Kinda like when I had to trim my dog's tail and butt fur. He hid his rump for a month.

    Rekon seems undergunned on an SB150, but if you're looking for more speed you should also ditch the slow-as-molasses Assegei and put on a DHF.
    IMO Dual Compound Aggressor makes a great companion to a MaxxTrail or Maxx Grip DHF for a grippy-yet-not-too-slow trail combo.

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    Rightcoast,I say give it a try. At one point in the past I was running an Ardent Race rear and DHF front on a first gen Hightower. I actually liked it. This was before the Rekon came out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAFKALVS View Post
    Magic Mary Radial Front + Albert Rear, or Albert/Albert?

    Or Assegai f/r?

    Going on a transition repeater. Have been running magic mary/big betty. Rear tire is pretty much done. Front still has life but it seems weird to not replace the front?
    I know nothing of MMs and BBs, primarily been on Contis the last few seasons. Baron/Kaiser on the trailbike and Kryptotal fr/re on the enduro.

    Picked up a pair of Albert trail/soft for my trailbike when I ripped the sidewalls on both the Baron and the Kaiser. Took it for a quick lap today and they’re very «different». As every review makes a point of, you need to add a few psi compared to non-radial.
    This made them feel a tiny bit bouncy, but still felt pretty grippy. Hard to describe the feeling but they are really different from all the Maxxis and Contis I’ve been on. They make a weird sound, less «ping», more «squech», sound «soft and rubbery»

    All that to say that unless you need your tires to clear a lot of sticky mud I’d go Albert. They really felt like they had a lot traction and perhaps less rolling resistance than the Baron/Kaiser-combo

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    I'm rollin on DHRII Maxx terra in the back and DHF Maxx grip up front. Just lean the bike a bit and it bites. Lots of traction. Not very fast, but I wouldn't be very fast on other tires anyways. I like this setup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by basinbeater View Post
    I&#39;m rollin on DHRII Maxx terra in the back and DHF Maxx grip up front. Just lean the bike a bit and it bites. Lots of traction. Not very fast, but I wouldn&#39;t be very fast on other tires anyways. I like this setup.
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    That combo is pretty much the safest bet in the world of descending oriented tires.</p>
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    PSA: Argotal Enduro SuperSoft is available in the US now. I've bought 2 from Backcountry with their frequent 20% off coupons. I'm really liking the newer mid-spike tires (Argotal & High Roller 3) for dry California conditions (lots of loose over hard & hard). They aren't the fastest rolling or the smoothest feeling on hard berms, but they don't squirm and they give a ton of confidence in the sketchiest, most blown out loose areas of trails right when I want it the most.

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    anyone know what the deal is with the new DHR 2.5 tire? is it replacing something? my tire source is out of my usual 2.4 DD but they have tons of the 2.5 DD in stock. i generally shy away from going that big but cannot wait for them to restock. was thinking of going with Kryptotal rear in enduro/soft but seems risky and is more expensive
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    Quote Originally Posted by westoxified View Post
    anyone know what the deal is with the new DHR 2.5 tire? is it replacing something? my tire source is out of my usual 2.4 DD but they have tons of the 2.5 DD in stock. i generally shy away from going that big but cannot wait for them to restock. was thinking of going with Kryptotal rear in enduro/soft but seems risky and is more expensive
    As far as I know it's not replacing anything. Just a different width option. Assuming you're running a 2.5 front, I think it mostly comes down to whether you want front and rear to be the same size, or if you want the rear to be slightly smaller. 2.5 rear will also be somwhat rounder than the 2.4.

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    front 2.5 assguy guy and love the 2.4 dhr maxxterra except for the wear rate. i'd give it a go but it's 1280grams...kryptotal rear DH in soft is 1290 and might last longer?
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    2.5 rear will also be somwhat rounder than the 2.4.

    If we were askingNigel Tufnel about bike tires he would say

    Nigel Tufnel: Well, it&#39;s .one wider , isn&#39;t it? It&#39;s not 2.4. You see, most blokes, you know, will be ridng a 2.4 . You&#39;re on 2.4 here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you&#39;re on 2.4 on your rear tire. Where can you go from there? Where?

    Marty DiBergi: I don&#39;t know.

    Nigel Tufnel: Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?

    Marty DiBergi: Put put on a 2.5 ?.

    Nigel Tufnel: Exactly .one wider
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andeh View Post
    PSA: Argotal Enduro SuperSoft is available in the US now. I've bought 2 from Backcountry with their frequent 20% off coupons. I'm really liking the newer mid-spike tires (Argotal & High Roller 3) for dry California conditions (lots of loose over hard & hard). They aren't the fastest rolling or the smoothest feeling on hard berms, but they don't squirm and they give a ton of confidence in the sketchiest, most blown out loose areas of trails right when I want it the most.
    I feel like the SS Argotal could stick you to the ceiling if you tried hard enough. It's so overkill it screws up my riding if it's not even a little wet. It also rolls like it's adhered to the ground. But, for wet riding definitely a cold dead hands tire. Head and shoulders above the Ass.

    I saw a lotta hate for the Magnotal upthread but no specifics on why. Por que?

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    Kryptotal Enduro SS can also be now found in the US. The local shop just got in their order on Tuesday. For my local conditions, it's less about rubber/ground interface and more about the tread pattern. We get deep pockets of loose sand & silt that tighter patterns try to float over then wash out, while spike patterns have enough room for the sand to displace into so the knobs can bite. It's usually only small portions of the trails but they can ruin your ride/day if you mess them up. On my ebike there's not as much penalty for rolling resistance I'm happy to pay that price for the insurance. I decided to keep a Kryptotal Fr on my enduro bike. I'm also a pretty big fan of the new High Roller 3 in the front for the same applications. I find vs the Argotal it's a bit more conventional in terms of knob height and ramping, so it feels more like an Assegai on hardpack & berms but does better on loose. On a ground spectrum from hard to loose, I'd rank tires like: Assegai - Kryptotal Fr - HR3 - Argotal - Shorty2 - Hydrotal/Wetscream. Magic Mary I'd probably put somewhere in the HR3-Argotal range, good ground penetration but worse side knobs on hardpack than either.

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    Rightcoast, I ran Dissector/Rekon combo for a good bit on my trail bike. Solid combo for dry loose over hard conditions. Probably not what you want in any kind of soft, wet conditions, neither of which we have in Utah.
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    Thanks for the input, haven't swapped it yet, but think I'm going to give it a shot. We have had quite a bit of rain, and my local stuff was a little greasy earlier in the week. Will be riding on the Cape more in the next couple of months, so a few less rocks and roots

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    Just ordered some Alberts for the ebike, I’ll let you guys know how they compare to the magic mary/big betty combo I’ve been running for the last few years on all my bikes

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    After spending the last year on Schwalbe radial casing tires, I am now back on an EXO+ Assegai and DHR2 setup and I have found that for now I am sticking to the higher PSIs that I esatblished while running the raidals. Approx 24 psi F and 28 psi R.

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    Just mounted a kryptonal front enduro soft. I have a knight composite rim which is generally a pita to mount all tires on, but I will say these are definitely notably more difficult than a Maxxis of similar casing. Something to think about if you have really difficult wheels and are looking at the DH casing especially. Whoever put the zip tie trick in this thread saved me! Zip tie and a bead jack and it was good to go.

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    Other than 90's era DH tires, the Conti Enduro casings are the most I've ever wrestled with getting a bead to seat (I9 enduro alloy rims, usually pretty easy to mount). They've been great since.

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    Second that. It might be that my asseagi was more worn than I gave it credit for, but compared to that and my previous DHF, the kryptonal was absolutely amazing for the first ride. So much grip on hard pack to slightly dusty corners I couldn’t believe it.

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