Buying a 10+ year old car what could go wrong?

[basinbeater]

Well my plan is to flip this bimmer. I will bring it to top mechanical conditions, and fix the torn drivers seat and cracked dash. I'll drive it a few thousand miles and then it will hit the block. I only bought it because it seemed like too good a deal, and I was the first person to go see it.

[basinbeater]

I have too many cars already.

[ex-powderbroker]

That beamer convertible is really sweet.

[stfu&gbtw]

This is blasphemy.

I need this one really bad. 200mph-capable, 300k mile-quality engine, track monster & canyon ripper all in one. You can daily it. It's even for sale in my hometown. Analog ftw. Only a few dozen paychecks short.



https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/invent...ting=158161159

for seriously though, it's good to see these come down in value a bit. There's a yellow one that's been sitting for some time that dropped from 73k to 68k. If these ever hit the 40s I may need to swap out the C2.

You can buy a 996 turbo in the $40's right now. Possibly even cheaper with the recent market decline, which has somehow managed to completely miss my preferred spec. Just saw a '91 964C4 coupe with 109k miles listed for $68,000.

[BmillsSkier]

This is blasphemy.

I need this one really bad. 200mph-capable, 300k mile-quality engine, track monster & canyon ripper all in one. You can daily it. It's even for sale in my hometown. Analog ftw. Only a few dozen paychecks short.



https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/invent...ting=158161159

for seriously though, it's good to see these come down in value a bit. There's a yellow one that's been sitting for some time that dropped from 73k to 68k. If these ever hit the 40s I may need to swap out the C2.

Good looking GT-3. 82k miles? I'm with you, I'd have thought with the correction in 911s that it would be slightly less expensive

[Bromontana]

Good looking GT-3. 82k miles? I'm with you, I'd have thought with the correction in 911s that it would be slightly less expensive

They are rare, only imported to the us for a few years as the mk1 1999-2001 was a non-US car. RUF did import ~27 GT3-engine RGTs in the Mk1 style though, and I've seen a few below 60k. If one of those pops up in the 40s I may do the unthinkable & buy a car with an orange/green interior (then rip it all out).

I think the 996 GT3s were in the 40s just prior to the Magnus Walker revolution, so there is hope. The ultimate goal is to be able to do track days regularly without undue risk to the engine.

Corvette C6s can be had for absurdly little money.. 400-500hp with a good chassis & clean design for 20k? America IS great.

[basinbeater]

Somebody has been doing their homework.

[basinbeater]

https://youtu.be/bS54sGBr01I

[Bromontana]

Damnit, now I'm going to be reading about 944t modding all weekend.

[basinbeater]

Slowly making headway on the clutch (what could go wrong on a 10 year old car). And speaking of mods, might as well set the stage... Kennedy pressure plate and a cup disk. Got the pilot bearing, rear main seal, and the pressure plate installed.

[Mazderati]

Where are the teeth for the starter?

[Mazderati]

Hiding apparently.

[basinbeater]

Nah, it's a ring that sits on the pressure plate. Not installed yet.

[basinbeater]

The outer edge of the flywheel has some set screws sticking out of it that trigger speed and engine position reference sensors.

[BmillsSkier]

Looking good!

[Bromontana]

I didn't realize when we met how few 1989+ 944 turbos there are. They had a nice power increase in 1989 and it looks like the appreciation you've noted has them between 15-20k for a clean turbo. Some low mile turbo S cars are being offered for much more.

Read about the euro 968s this past weekend- pretty cool stuff. 350hp 968 RS sold for something like $250k iirc. Cool slice of pcar history.

[basinbeater]

Yeah, mine is not low miles, but it runs well. Has a couple dash cracks, but paint looks pretty good. And you saw how it goes... And that was with boost at like 13 or 14psi, can be turned up to around 16 or 17 with the current setup.
Check out the 88 Rothmans turbo cup up in Canada.
The 944 turbo of the time outperformed the 911 turbo in every way except straight line (by design, can't have the cheaper car be faster).

[basinbeater]

http://944turbo.net/?p=612
Old automobile article comparing the two.

[BmillsSkier]

I didn't realize when we met how few 1989+ 944 turbos there are.

I think there's even less 928s around than that. Ever since the Top Gear Argentina episode I've been kinda obsessed with seeing if there's a good unmolested manual 928, preferably S or GTS from the later years around. Unobtanium for what was a kinda un-loved pcar.

[huckbucket]

I think there's even less 928s around than that. Ever since the Top Gear Argentina episode I've been kinda obsessed with seeing if there's a good unmolested manual 928, preferably S or GTS from the later years around. Unobtanium for what was a kinda un-loved pcar.

Your natural reaction after watching that episode should have been to want an Esprit. That thing wouldn't die.

[BmillsSkier]

Your natural reaction after watching that episode should have been to want an Esprit. That thing wouldn't die.

That's twice on that show that British engineering (a fancy way of saying the doors are going to fall off - Clarkson) has surprised me. The other being the Rover being the best car on the Bolivia special.

[Bromontana]

I'd rather have a 944 with a strong 4cyl given what I've heard about 928 reliability. Also like the 944 design; it's a well proportioned car that has aged very well. That said, a 300+hp v8 928 is one helluva cool platform to play around with. More of a gt car than the nimble & track worthy 944T. Will read that link bb, thanks.

I broke the driver side door handle on the 996, satisfying the weekly requirement of 1 minor fix. $8 oem replacement spring ftw. Getting a hand held fabspeed ECU tuner in the next week or so. I think the main benefit is to smooth the mid-rpm lull in hp/tq. If it's worthwhile I'd be happy to let you borrow it bmills.

[BmillsSkier]

Sweet! Thanks man, let me know how it works!

I too think the 944 has aged really well. There's just something about that 928 that I like. It's probably just nostalgia but who knows.

[Bromontana]

Finally got around to buying proper oil in bulk. Been using decent stuff (Motul) but the DT40 is perfect as a road oil for Boxsters/911s from 99-08. It may even be the same for 09+ DFI engines but I'm not up to speed on them.

For track days they have XP9, a low mile blend for extreme temperatures you get at the track with the high compression, n/a flat 6s, BMWs, etc.

@bmills- your pcars would love it, Jake may have already pointed you in this direction.

[BmillsSkier]

^^^
Thanks! I've actually been running the DT40 for nearly a year now since a master mechanic at a PCA event turned me on to it. No issues at all and I have to say (strictly from a 'feel' standpoint) it seems like it runs just a bit smoother, and warms up a bit quicker. I could be crazy and it could be a placebo effect but I'm happy and so are the cars.