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Thread: ON3P SKIS Discussion

  1. #14751
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    I know this has probably been said buuuuut on last years BG 110s and 118s in 192. Was pushing the mount forward 1cm helping people get more along with the ski??
    I find the it skis quite dang well but could use a bit less tip and more tail in certain situations.

    Am I wrong to think this from people who have tried it at +1?

    Also they are the BG 110 Tours in 192, so not sure if that changes anything for that too


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  2. #14752
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    If you’re trying to make the 192 BG ski more like the older 191s, move the mount back a cm rather than forward.

  3. #14753
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    Quote Originally Posted by on3pbg View Post
    I know this has probably been said buuuuut on last years BG 110s and 118s in 192. Was pushing the mount forward 1cm helping people get more along with the ski??
    I find the it skis quite dang well but could use a bit less tip and more tail in certain situations.

    Am I wrong to think this from people who have tried it at +1?

    Also they are the BG 110 Tours in 192, so not sure if that changes anything for that too


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    I have my 187 BG110s stock layup +1 and love them there. Feel a bit quicker and more balanced and yeah give just a bit more tail in the back which I wanted coming from the Asyms which I felt could wash out.

  4. #14754
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    Quote Originally Posted by eSock View Post
    Ya know...I did get them tuned up last season and started getting frustrated with them after that. I'll try some detuning and see if that helps
    FWIW I like the rockered sections on all my ON3P's dull as fuck.
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  6. #14756
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    ON3P SKIS Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Norseman View Post
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    Okey dokey. Look forward to your thoughts!

  7. #14757
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    Quote Originally Posted by MHSP1497 View Post
    Today, I’m afraid I had to Cease & Desist. It was glorious. These skis on soft, cut up snow enable ridiculous speeds and huge grins.

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    Fuck yeah they do.


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  8. #14758
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muggydude View Post
    PSA:

    The 2017 Asym Cease and Desists with the Longer Rocker Profiles are the best deep day pow ski of all time.

    That is all. Thank you
    Also fuck yeah to this.


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  9. #14759
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    C&Ds look awesome for untracked would love to try a set in the right conditions. The supergoats can sink when it gets super deep but make up for it by erasing all tracks in their path.

  10. #14760
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    Quote Originally Posted by XavierD View Post
    What size boot are you again? If ~303mm you’re welcome to swap with me at Stevens some time.
    I’m a 295. Guessing you mounted with Pivots, so may or may not work?


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  11. #14761
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    Quote Originally Posted by carlh View Post
    C&Ds look awesome for untracked would love to try a set in the right conditions. The supergoats can sink when it gets super deep but make up for it by erasing all tracks in their path.
    You can ski mine if you head up to Baker some time. Just let me know when. 305mm BSL

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  12. #14762
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    Quote Originally Posted by carlh View Post
    C&Ds look awesome for untracked would love to try a set in the right conditions. The supergoats can sink when it gets super deep but make up for it by erasing all tracks in their path.
    Given that the asym Cease&Desists are effectively a fat Billy Goat, they also steamroll anything in the way. Mine were built in 2018 and have the “old” tour core, which is all bamboo.

  13. #14763
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    These are from the year before, I think the first year of that tour layup, pre asym but with the xl rocker. Scored a pair from noparking a couple of seasons ago.

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  14. #14764
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    If they made that shape in a 2024 tour layup, I would buy a 193 in a heart beat. Drool.

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    The non tour lay up 193 made mountains small

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    Quote Originally Posted by auvgeek View Post
    If they made that shape in a 2024 tour layup, I would buy a 193 in a heart beat. Drool.
    I emailed Scott about this exact concept. He said that the C&D may come back at some point, maybe as stock or as custom option, but couldn't do it now.

  17. #14767
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    No fuckin way! There was a zero camber version? I need to get my paws on those. I've always thought a zero camber ON3P would be absolute tits.

  18. #14768
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brasso View Post
    No fuckin way! There was a zero camber version? I need to get my paws on those. I've always thought a zero camber ON3P would be absolute tits.
    2010 caylor. 1mm camber. Still my favorite ski of all time.


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  19. #14769
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    Never got on the canoe-rocker 2017s, but my 2019 asym-fat-goat-tour-core variety are my favorite skis of all time.

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/CqvmV...dyZ3ZxcnRrMA==

  20. #14770
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    Quote Originally Posted by XavierD View Post
    The non tour lay up 193 made mountains small
    I still regret not buying your 2014s when you had them for sale.

    Quote Originally Posted by Norseman View Post
    I emailed Scott about this exact concept. He said that the C&D may come back at some point, maybe as stock or as custom option, but couldn't do it now.
    Man, that would be so awesome if those became available again with the flat underfoot and tip rocker that started at the toe piece. With the reduced rocker, it doesn’t have much of an advantage over the BG. But with some touring bindings, you could rip some big pow lines!

  21. #14771
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    Another powder day and another reminder of how much I love the old 191 BG. Effortless pivot in tight trees in Whistler. Ate up heavier powder and allowed me to ski however I wanted (charge, noodle, etc.) I'm eager to hear Norse's review of the new version since we both love this old version and felt like the last 192 was a miss. Let's get Montana some deep days so we can get another review of the new version!

  22. #14772
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    (I got the tour build)

    Hope to mount em this week.

  23. #14773
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    Is the two foot steering more of an ASYM thing or would it relate to the current? I had some 2018 BGs and couldn’t figure them out as a newer skier. I think I’d be fine now though.

  24. #14774
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    Kartel 108s. Had to remount from shifts [emoji30] at recommended to cast at +2 ish from rec. Never got a feel for the ski before the remount, I didn't trust the shift.

    With the forward mount, light density snow skis amazing. Cold Ice is also fine, basically as expected. But PNW wet pack is less great, basically all of HRM/PR/all mellow trees around hood till spring. all traversing, ski is always trying to turn about the lateral mount point and my feet kill by the end of the day.

    Maguns at rec is totally fine.

    I think I know the answer but is this all mount point? It's it's worth trying to detune?


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  25. #14775
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    I NEED MOAR 24/25 GOAT BETA!

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