ON3P SKIS Discussion

[kid-kapow]

What about WD110 vs WD116? How much more versatile is the 110 for all mtn skiing? Asking cuz I’ve heard 110 is more of a pow ski, but heard 116 feels versatile.

Which one do you think is more stable? Which more loose?

They should be fairly comparable wrt looseness if you take their relative widths into consideration.

A 110 ski is usually more versatile, unless you prefer more weight and a wider platform.

The main difference is really in the flex pattern though - 116 should have slightly more supportive tails, the 110 a bit more stiffness in the forebody. Both def have a soft snow bias. If you want more umph and float, go 116 - especially if you ski from a more upright stance, or go 110 if you want something quicker edge to edge, and lighter that still skis soft snow better than a 110 ought to.

I prefer the 116 of the two, but I would prob prefer a 110 if it was my daily driver or the 116 if I had a narrower ski for low tide days.

Not sure if this is old news or not but I got a new pair of WD110 back in Oct and when I was checking the tune (I had the tune issue on my WD102) I noticed that the base bevel l was 1.5 deg. I called the guys at ON3P and they said all their skis are shipped now with that base bevel vs the. 1 deg they used to ship with.

ah, interesting. Moment did the same last season, at least on their wider skis.

[sf]

Not sure if this is old news or not but I got a new pair of WD110 back in Oct and when I was checking the tune (I had the tune issue on my WD102) I noticed that the base bevel l was 1.5 deg. I called the guys at ON3P and they said all their skis are shipped now with that base bevel vs the. 1 deg they used to ship with.

It would be too easy to make a cheap joke about them trying to bring the base bevel average back towards 1 degree, but really - it sounds like a good idea.

The grip my Mantra 102s offer with 1,3 degrees has convinced me that there’s few downsides for a freeride ski by going towards 1,5 degrees.

Did they say what they’re doing for side bevels? Still 1 degree?

[K1mJ0ngTr1ll]

They should be fairly comparable wrt looseness if you take their relative widths into consideration.

A 110 ski is usually more versatile, unless you prefer more weight and a wider platform.

The main difference is really in the flex pattern though - 116 should have slightly more supportive tails, the 110 a bit more stiffness in the forebody. Both def have a soft snow bias. If you want more umph and float, go 116 - especially if you ski from a more upright stance, or go 110 if you want something quicker edge to edge, and lighter that still skis soft snow better than a 110 ought to.

I prefer the 116 of the two, but I would prob prefer a 110 if it was my daily driver or the 116 if I had a narrower ski for low tide days.



ah, interesting. Moment did the same last season, at least on their wider skis.

I believe moment went to a 1.5 side bevel while keeping a 1 degree base.

[K1mJ0ngTr1ll]

I believe moment went to a 1.5 side bevel while keeping a 1 degree base.

Stand corrected. Pow skis are 1.3+ base and anything 108 or less is 1-1.2. Just found the post from Luke in August.

[phatboy64]

They said 1 deg on the side…

For me 1 deg on the base works for everything. I do have some beer league skis that came with .75 or .80 whatever..but they still work for me at 1 deg but I do set the sides at 3…

[Velomayniac]

I need a pair of On3ps in my life. But which ones?

[paschta]

All this bevel talk has me hopping my woods 110s got the same tune as the factory haha. I was under the impressions pretty much everything came out with a 1 / 1 base and side bevel

[BeHuWe]

I need a pair of On3ps in my life. But which ones?

Wren 102 for banger all rounder with a traditional mount

Wren 110 to hate fuck the entire mountain

Woods = half wren/ half Jeff

Jeff 108 for a easy to pilot progressive mounted all mountain

Jeff 118 for a progressive mounted, dialed dedicated pow ski that is easy in fresh and composed when slaying chop

All these are based on west coast/sierra snowpack skiing.


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[The Iron Horse]

Stand corrected. Pow skis are 1.3+ base and anything 108 or less is 1-1.2. Just found the post from Luke in August.

I think you were correct the first time. The info you post from Luke was from August of '22, but he since revised it to state that all skis were now 1.5/1.0 base/edge.


Edit: Nevermind, now I'm confused.

[K1mJ0ngTr1ll]

I think you were correct the first time. The info you post from Luke was from August of '22, but he since revised it to state that all skis were now 1.5/1.0 base/edge.


Edit: Nevermind, now I'm confused.

My bad lol. I am too.

When I got my Jeff 118 I put a fresh 1:1 and I didn’t experience anything weird on hard stuff. Actually I was quite impressed with them.

[Shredeagle]

I'd suspect the tune itself before the ski. Most likely the base edge bevel

Thanks man! Ended up getting a tuning kit for Xmas. Good timing! Went 2 base bevel 2 side bevel and totally rounded the edges to the contact points. Super stoked on these things again. So easy off piste and pretty good on the groomers.


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[DoubleBogey]

I apologize for not reading through the entire thread, but I’m debating on a couple skis. I’m looking for resort/soft snow ski in the 106-110 range. Currently debating between the J Ski Hotshot 189 (106), Enforcer Free 110 in 191, and the Woodsman 108 in 191. The first two have metal, the Woodsman does not. I need a ski that’s a little fun but more importantly a ski that can handle chop. I’m 6’5” 200lbs, any insight on the Woodsman 108 would be greatly appreciated.

[Velomayniac]

191 Wrens in Bellingham for $100

https://bellingham.craigslist.org/sp...702637848.html

[phatty]

192 BGs for a decent price. Assume these are from a mag.

https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/s...692867458.html

[Velomayniac]

When the F are new Billy Goats coming out? I'm starting to think the reason we are having a lower snow year so far is because BGs are not out yet.

[Bandit Man]

When the F are new Billy Goats coming out? I'm starting to think the reason we are having a lower snow year so far is because BGs are not out yet.

Still trying to figure out the proper mount point and edge bevel? [emoji6]

[benk]

lol. if it was any other year I probably wouldn’t be as patient. But will likely pull the trigger the day they release

[Velomayniac]

Release the BGs, release the snow

[The Iron Horse]

When the F are new Billy Goats coming out? I'm starting to think the reason we are having a lower snow year so far is because BGs are not out yet.

That's a really good question. I was about to pull the trigger in June, but figured I'd wait for the summer sale. I've been waiting... and waiting...

Has to be some sort of manufacturing or design issue, no? What's the inside scoop?

[Velomayniac]

Hopefully Iggy is watching this thread and delayed because he's in his lab trying to recreate either the 2014 or 2016 masterpieces.

[shroom]

whiteboards full of scantily clad pillow fight scenes

[Sessiøn]

They stopped doing full line seasonal releases a few years ago now.

[XavierD]

When the F are new Billy Goats coming out? I'm starting to think the reason we are having a lower snow year so far is because BGs are not out yet.

When they do release, feel free to skip out on buying any. Just leave them for people who will actually put time on the skis before writing a dissertation length review and putting them up in gear swap (mounted once, no evidence of use).

[adrenalated]

They're holding back the BGs to make sure y'all have something to bitch about and keep this thread at the top. Free advertising.

[Sessiøn]

When they do release, feel free to skip out on buying any. Just leave them for people who will actually put time on the skis before writing a dissertation length review and putting them up in gear swap (mounted once, no evidence of use).

They're holding back the BGs to make sure y'all have something to bitch about and keep this thread at the top. Free advertising.

And then wonder why Scott doesn't post in this thread.