ON3P SKIS Discussion

[alect47]

Is there a demo day at loveland tomorrow?

[ffmedic84]

Is there a demo day at loveland tomorrow?

Yep.

[mr_pretzel]

Nah, I own a stiff BG. Awesome in soft snow, but that's not what I'm describing. I also own a stiff Jeffrey 110 as my daily driver. When they die, I want another pair, with a more consistent flex, longer radius, and less tail rocker.

I realize everyone has their own idea of perfect and ON3P can't cater to everyone, but all this talk got me excited. Been wanting ON3P to make this ski -- a charger with a twin for landing switch and a progressive mount for even swing weight -- for a while now. Which is why I originally had them build me a Jeffrey 110 that was substantially stiffer in the tip and tail. The current Kartel 108 has less tail rocker, which is nice, but it also has the elliptical sidecut (sometimes funky on hard snow, as discussed in past few pages), too much and too abrupt taper (though that's kind of nitpicky), and a smaller turn radius.

I have a pair of 186 k108s with extra carbon and veneer tops (stiffest layup ON3P provides). They rip and are so much fun. I will post a full review on here when I have more time on them.
While they are probably close to your Jeffreys they aren't exactly the ski you are describing there which I would absolutely love.
The "playful charger" category is missing a top dog. A ski like the wren, but with a centred mount point for spins and landing switch. Sounds to me like the ultimate comp ski and kind of what blizzard tried to create with the rustler series, too bad they are too soft/light and have shorter turn radiuses.

Has there every been any thought put to creating a ski like this? I think the kartel/jeffrey line + bibby is the closest one has gotten to this.

[auvgeek]

^^Nice to hear I'm not the only one who wants this kind of ski.

I think the kartel/jeffrey line + bibby is the closest one has gotten to this.

Skinny Praxis RX in heavy core mounted +2 would be close on paper. But I really love the feel of ON3P skis.

PS. On previous skis, ON3P has milled the core thicker in the tip and tail, which adds stiffness there plus the full-length carbon and wood veneer. Something to consider if you buy another K108 and want stiffer tips and tails.

[PowTron]

That's a nice set up right there. I'm stoked to try to new BG's tomorrow at Loveland. Assuming I'll be ordering them soon as I get home.

See you there [emoji106]

[mr_pretzel]

PS. On previous skis, ON3P has milled the core thicker in the tip and tail, which adds stiffness there plus the full-length carbon and wood veneer. Something to consider if you buy another K108 and want stiffer tips and tails.

I asked about having that done and they unfortunately weren’t offering that at the time when I ordered this spring.
The skis are definitely pretty stout though. Not as stiff as BG’s but still have some backbone.

[PowTron]

Yep.

Nice to see you at Loveland and glad you got to try the skis [emoji106]

[ffmedic84]

Nice to see you at Loveland and glad you got to try the skis [emoji106]

Likewise. Thanks for taking the time to come out and for letting me pick your brain. I'm thinking there's going to be a new pair of On3p's under my tree this year.

[Bobcat Sig]

I finally had the chance to get a few more runs on my new 189 Wren 108. The conditions skied are best described as machined groomed over sharky boilerplate with the occasional blown-in wind buff cream. Which is to say, not ideal.

While it's tough to gauge how these will really handle in the conditions I aim to ski, I think they'll go just fine. The first few turns were a bit lazy. I forget that they really need to be driven. Not driven like the oft-referenced Dynastar LP XXL, but close. The reward a proper, forward stance. With energy into them, they really liven up and are able to carve turns big and small.

I'm really curious how they'll do in fresh, soft snow of a few inches. Given the tip shape (that's what she said ) and the rocker profile, I suspect just fine.

Now, about this low tide garbage snow...

[optics]

Spent the weekend at kirkwood on my new K108's (thanks again for the advice Powtron!).

Conditions were a mix of scraped-out manmade groomers, rutted-out rock-solid 'probably used to be sugar last week', and nice soft 'still feels surprisingly sugary, considering...' on the few leeward slopes with any coverage. Everything was scoured to shit after saturday's winds, other than a few leeward shady spots which were pretty nice, relatively speaking.

I probably should have been on my old tycoons, but really wanted to give these a go. Glad I did. They were super fun - silly quick and pivot-y, perfect for dorking around, and did just fine on the firm stuff. A little loose on the most wind-scoured icy areas but everything would be.

Main take-away: I was on the fence about going short - I did the 181's, per powtron's rec, given other bigger skis in my quiver - but glad I did. I never felt like there was too little ski for me. Granted it was a take-it-easy kind of day given low tide conditions and limited terrain, but I did not expect a ski like this, in a 181, to feel this stable on firm groomers at 40-50 mph. And then to get all the quickness, too - really nice combo.

Good work, dudes!

[PowTron]

thanks again for the advice Powtron!

Main take-away: I was on the fence about going short - I did the 181's, per powtron's rec, given other bigger skis in my quiver - but glad I did. I never felt like there was too little ski for me. Granted it was a take-it-easy kind of day given low tide conditions and limited terrain, but I did not expect a ski like this, in a 181, to feel this stable on firm groomers at 40-50 mph. And then to get all the quickness, too - really nice combo.

Good work, dudes!

Glad you are stoked on them! Perfect ski as a compliment to your larger offerings, no doubt.

[Huskier]

17-18 189 Billygoats: First impression after their first powder day:

Tits.

[slowroastin]

17-18 189 Billygoats: First impression after their first powder day:

Tits.

Pics.


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[RYAN13]

No Supergoats for me but managed to grab a pair with the clear nylon topsheets. Recent additions to the quiver...



Thanks Scott, Jay, and ON3P team!

[Self Jupiter]

I have a pair of 186 k108s with extra carbon and veneer tops (stiffest layup ON3P provides). They rip and are so much fun. I will post a full review on here when I have more time on them.
While they are probably close to your Jeffreys they aren't exactly the ski you are describing there which I would absolutely love.
The "playful charger" category is missing a top dog. A ski like the wren, but with a centred mount point for spins and landing switch. Sounds to me like the ultimate comp ski and kind of what blizzard tried to create with the rustler series, too bad they are too soft/light and have shorter turn radiuses.

Has there every been any thought put to creating a ski like this? I think the kartel/jeffrey line + bibby is the closest one has gotten to this.

Praxis MVP?

[Bruce Springskiin]

Praxis MVP?

Get out of here with that


-I am here for the stoke

[Self Jupiter]

Get out of here with that


-I am here for the stoke

Hey! didn’t nobody flame Auvgeek!

I’ll go back to my hole where someone who has never skied a set of on3ps posting on the on3p thread belongs

[Bruce Springskiin]

Hey! didn’t nobody flame Auvgeek!

I’ll go back to my hole where someone who has never skied a set of on3ps posting on the on3p thread belongs

Try and skiing a pair of Kartels or Jeffrey’s, and give us a comparison. Coming from a guy who has never skied praxis, I could ski a Kartel/Jeffery as a one ski quiver. Maybe some day Until then I am happy with what I have.


-I am here for the stoke

[auvgeek]

Praxis MVP?

MVP with a heavy core is a good suggestion, except for the short running length (40 cm tail rocker and 48 cm tip rocker).

[Self Jupiter]

MVP with a heavy core is a good suggestion, except for the short running length (40 cm tail rocker and 48 cm tip rocker).

I have the 193, stock version no carbon from a couple years ago but not sure on exact year. Skis pretty short IMO, but of course you can feel the tail is back there

I can’t wait to get some time on a Kartel/Jeffrey some day, they’re around top of the list

[SupreChicken]

Praxis MVP?

Fondled their line last night. I think the lithic cash 110 is the ski you seek.

[Banh Mi]

Fondled their line last night. I think the lithic cash 110 is the ski you seek.

Only problem is it weighs 1900g/ski in their standard/inbounds layup. Way too light for inbounds cruising, at least IMO. That’s significantly lighter than On3ps tour core, and I can’t (for the life of me) understand how that is supposed to be damp/stable. Around 110mm underfoot, I wont even consider an inbounds ski unless it’s 2300g/ski or more.


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[mn_teleswede]

Look what [emoji318] dropped off ...

[sf]

What are those Hendrixy pairs?

[adrenalated]

^^ early model Icelantic Keepers