Trolling Vegan Facebook group

**DasBlunt** · 10-31-2015, 12:48 PM

Vegan is perhaps one of the most environmentally unsustainable human practices to date. Forcing poor people around the world to become Vegan would be far from compassionate to all living things.

While I think it is noble to not want to hurt or eat animals, it is not very practicable or sustainable as a world wide goal (yet).

My best troll comments which got me banned from the 10,000 member strong Facebook group "Vegan Connections"... It also showed the tremendous stupidity of most all Vegans. Not all, but just about all.

1. "I want my dog to be Vegan, any ideas?" ( that thread grew to 200+ posts before it was nuked for obvious reasons). Some of the most heartless and stupid posts, EVER.

2. "Being a Vegan is not a environmentally sustainable lifestyle and raises your carbon footprint"

3. "Are probiotics living things, and if so, should we be eating them?" received 100s of posts defending people's right to be a vegan and that eating bacteria was not being Vegan. Nuked after smart people posted and it was really funny.

**Jesse** · 10-31-2015, 01:03 PM

I'm curious as to why you think vegan isn't environmentally sustainable and raises your carbon footprint?

I'm not vegan, it's just opposite to what I understood.

Edit. Missed the trolling confession. Easy targets... (seems you caught me too).

doughboyshredder · 10-31-2015, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by DasBlunt

Vegan is perhaps one of the most environmentally unsustainable human practices to date. Forcing poor people around the world to become Vegan would be far from compassionate to all living things.

While I think it is noble to not want to hurt or eat animals, it is not very practicable or sustainable as a world wide goal (yet).

My best troll comments which got me banned from the 10,000 member strong Facebook group "Vegan Connections"... It also showed the tremendous stupidity of most all Vegans. Not all, but just about all.

1. "I want my dog to be Vegan, any ideas?" ( that thread grew to 200+ posts before it was nuked for obvious reasons). Some of the most heartless and stupid posts, EVER.

2. "Being a Vegan is not a environmentally sustainable lifestyle and raises your carbon footprint"

3. "Are probiotics living things, and if so, should we be eating them?" received 100s of posts defending people's right to be a vegan and that eating bacteria was not being Vegan. Nuked after smart people posted and it was really funny.

Thanks for proving my point that meat eaters are the ones constantly shoving their agendas down our throats while claiming it's the other way around.

**Soups** · 10-31-2015, 01:47 PM

LOL. One data point that admits he was trolling does not prove anything.

**DasBlunt** · 10-31-2015, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by soups818

LOL. One data point that admits he was trolling does not prove anything.

Exactly.

Vegan is the definition of militant if you understand the environmental damage caused.

Vegan is the Ultimate 1st world diet and bacteria......yes, they did not want to hurt bacteria.

**DasBlunt** · 10-31-2015, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by Jesse

I'm curious as to why you think vegan isn't environmentally sustainable and raises your carbon footprint?

I'm not vegan, it's just opposite to what I understood.

Edit. Missed the trolling confession. Easy targets... (seems you caught me too).

Most "vegans" buy more processed shit in the supermarkets. These Fat overweight protein/carb addicts who, if they cannot replace their fucking eggs and bacon with some fake flavored vegan soy product, just might die. Just eat bacon and be done with it!

The oil burned to ship and process all this fake food (has to be) larger than animal food production..........but still, it is all bullshit right now and a first world problem that WILL effect the environment..

**MagnificentUnicorn** · 10-31-2015, 02:40 PM

DBS get's married to a minority, vegan, feminist social justice warrior and becomes "enlightened".

**Game Over** · 10-31-2015, 05:20 PM

this is a great piece that breaks down the footprint issue quite well.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...39c_story.html

PB · 10-31-2015, 06:02 PM

Generally good arguments but portraying ruminants at the top of the enviro-villan list is a little shaky - the methane data is far from conclusive, and dietarily it doesn't get any better than being an herbivore. What other animal can crank out high quality protein when fed only urine-soaked paper??

**old goat** · 11-01-2015, 12:39 AM

Who the hell wastes their life trolling vegan forums? And admits it? Only someone who doesn't have one.

But since we're on the subject--as long as the planet has 7 billion people it really doesn't matter what we eat--it's not sustainable.

**DasBlunt** · 11-01-2015, 12:50 AM

Originally Posted by old goat

Who the hell wastes their life trolling vegan forums? And admits it? Only someone who doesn't have one.

But since we're on the subject--as long as the planet has 7 billion people it really doesn't matter what we eat--it's not sustainable.

I don't measure my life in 7 seconds of troll fun, wasting is far from counting things with regret....having a laugh and challenging conviction....even my own conviction, is entertainment. I don't have direct TV.

**twodogs** · 11-01-2015, 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by old goat

But since we're on the subject--as long as the planet has 7 billion people it really doesn't matter what we eat--it's not sustainable.

Thank you good sir.

**Game Over** · 11-01-2015, 02:12 AM

Originally Posted by old goat

But since we're on the subject--as long as the planet has 7 billion people it really doesn't matter what we eat--it's not sustainable.

Not exactly true. Because of improved technology and farming methods we produce more food now than ever before in history and we use less land to do it.

Also just look at the instances of famine and how it is much less common in today's world.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines

Also keep in mind that most of the world lags way behind in applying modern farming techniques that would drastically improve yields (U.S. Farms yield 10 times more per acre than African farms)... So in reality 7 billion is very much sustainable- the worry is feeding the 9.6 billion in 2050 coupled with increased warming.

**stuckathuntermtn** · 11-01-2015, 02:33 AM

You should get the leader fired

**DougW** · 11-01-2015, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by steepconcrete

this is a great piece that breaks down the footprint issue quite well.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...39c_story.html

I see the point of cows and cow farts but what about ( 1/2 serious) the vegan and vegetarians gas. Every vegie I know produces a greater amount of gas than non. Little women 100lbs or so seem to produce gas than a 200lb meat eater.

**Game Over** · 11-01-2015, 09:42 AM

I'm unaware of any fart study... But with 7 billion people it could be relevant.

Here is another good piece looking at footprint : protein

http://grist.org/food/deep-impact-th...-on-the-earth/

**Game Over** · 11-01-2015, 09:46 AM

https://www.quora.com/Do-human-farts...global-warming

There are two components of flatulence that contribute to global warming: carbon dioxide and methane. Both are produced as a result of gut bacteria metabolizing complex carbohydrates (like fiber) that our upper digestive system is incapable of processing efficiently. There's a lot of diversity in the composition of the population of bacteria in people's guts; carbon dioxide producing bacteria are quite common, while methanogens (methane-producers) are pretty rare.

As farting habits are almost entirely dependent on diet and the composition of gut bacteria, it's very difficult to establish what a "standard" fart is like. Surprisingly, there have been a number of studies conducted to establish what the chemical composition of flatulence is, but I think the most useful one (being the connoisseur of fart articles that I am) is Investigation of normal flatus production in healthy volunteers. In this study, the authors analyzed the chemical composition of the farts of 10 volunteers when they were on a high fiber diet (normal diet supplemented with 200 grams of baked beans a day) and a no fiber diet.

The no fiber diet produced very little flatulence in the panel, while the high fiber diet produced varying amounts of both carbon dioxide and methane -- specifically, an average of 15 milliliters of methane a day, and a median of around 70 milliliters of carbon dioxide per day. That's about 10 milligrams of methane and 140 milligrams of carbon dioxide per day.

Assuming that these people and this diet are representative of the world population (not necessarily true, but close enough), human beings collectively release about 73 metric tons of methane and 1000 metric tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere every day just by farting.

This is a trivial amount of carbon dioxide -- roughly equivalent to 1000 people flying from New York to Los Angeles. Methane is about 20 times as potent of a greenhouse gas, so we can bump that up to 2000 people flying one way.

I'm so very sorry.

So nope-- not at all relevant

**iceman** · 11-01-2015, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by steepconcrete

this is a great piece that breaks down the footprint issue quite well.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...39c_story.html

I'm still having trouble with "paper or plastic?".

**Game Over** · 11-01-2015, 10:05 AM

At least you get a choice. Eugene banned plastic and now requires a $.05 charge on paper

**old goat** · 11-01-2015, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by steepconcrete

the worry is feeding the 9.6 billion in 2050 coupled with increased warming.

No worries-by 2100 the human population is predicted to be 150 million, all living above the arctic circle.

**Game Over** · 11-01-2015, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by old goat

No worries-by 2100 the human population is predicted to be 150 million, all living above the arctic circle.

Uhh where are you getting this information?

The UN high estimate is 16 billion low is 6 billion

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population

**DasBlunt** · 11-01-2015, 12:37 PM

in the 70s there were many scare "science" articles saying in 30 years we would be more than fucked....

look it up.

Old Goat's generation has heard it all before........

Future generations are always to be considered, but people take many different paths to get hat level of higher consciousness.

**Game Over** · 11-01-2015, 12:55 PM

According to my Twitter feed today is world vegan day

**wicked_sick** · 11-01-2015, 02:14 PM

It's merely an attention seeking fad, just like deciding to be gay or "trans gendered." Veganism is nothing more than another empty hobby to brag about in the whole foods line, right along with crossfit, trekking poles and running marathons.

doughboyshredder · 11-01-2015, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by wicked_sick

It's merely an attention seeking fad, just like deciding to be gay or "trans gendered." Veganism is nothing more than another empty hobby to brag about in the whole foods line, right along with crossfit, trekking poles and running marathons.

Interesting. So you like the idea if sucking dick enough that you could choose to be gay.
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