Tammy Wynette cannot be reached for help-Divorce advice

[PNWbrit]

WTFF? (that's What the Fucking Fuck????) Really? So for all the guy aliases we say, sorry dude, you're right, your gal is bat shit crazy, protect yourself, etc etc. But for PH, oh, we're not so sure, you know, we don't know his side of the story.

Thanks for reminding me why I have him on ignore....

[My Pet Powder Goat]

Sorry for your situation, PH, but is great for this thread to hear from the fairer sex. Many of us (not named glademaster) understand that being an selfish asshole is not sex dependant.

[Bromontana]

Yeah having single parent duty plus a black hole for the other parent is hard enough. Opening a new credit card to, as another poster said, pay for the lawyer's kid's education aint exactly nirvana. Or blowing savings, whichever way it was doesn't really matter.

[My Pet Powder Goat]

Yeah having single parent duty plus a black hole for the other parent is hard enough. Opening a new credit card to, as another poster said, pay for the lawyer's kid's education aint exactly nirvana.

Being a deadbeat and not supporting your kid in any way is fucking bullshit. It doesn't even matter how you ended up there, and says all you need to know about that person.

[MakersTeleMark]

Did they really have a rabbi bless the extraction operation?

[glademaster]

WTFF? (that's What the Fucking Fuck????) Really? So for all the guy aliases we say, sorry dude, you're right, your gal is bat shit crazy, protect yourself, etc etc. But for PH, oh, we're not so sure, you know, we don't know his side of the story.

I'm pretty sure this same sentiment has been expressed numerous times in this thread. I'm just saying, there are two sides to every story, that's true in almost every relationship, regardless of the sexes of the people involved. It has nothing to do with gender, PH could have been talking about her estranged lesbian partner and I would have said the same thing. I could have made the comment I made at any point in this thread, about anyone who has been through a divorce/ugly breakup, I just happened to get some itchy typin' fingers this morning.

I'm shocked more people don't say the same to the men who bring their divorce stories here, to be honest. Sure, some people of both genders are preternaturally manipulative psychos, but more often than not, you really have to push someone's buttons to get them to lash out in the way that many people's ex-wives here allegedly lashed out at them.

[Bromontana]

Rejection itself is an incredibly powerful motivator. Have you ever had someone you love walk away on principle? It's a tough pill to swallow.

[XXX-er]

Good to have that warning label , I gave a bro one of my brownies which is 1/36th of a fairly benign 1/4 ounce of so so bulkley bud well ground up to eliminate the hotspots, buddy keeps smoking dope and hr later he remarks that he is really fucked up to which I reply "dude you are an anesthetist what don't you get about dosage ?"

even the pro's can fuck up eh?

speaking of fucked up sure a lot of that on this thread

[skiballs]

Divorcee's are some horny sob's

I was just as horny when I was married. But now a get to play different courses.

[4matic]

I was just as horny when I was married. But now a get to play different courses.

A lot of unknown hazards on a first time course.

[iceman]

A lot of unknown hazards on a first time course.

That's why you marry them, duh. Keep track of that thang.

[skiballs]

^gota have positive swing thoughts. Sometimes you gota take some risks to make birdies and eagles.

Well, what the hell? You ride her until see bucks you or don't ride at all- TC

[skiballs]

That's why you marry them, duh. Keep track of that thang.

Some guys hit it in the same hazard every time.

[sb]

[TBS]

Some are better off not married.

Tom Waits - Better Off Without a Wife

[shroom]

the fall of troy- tom waits

[m76b74]

Well there goes any shot at a decent weekend. Called the wife on her house purchase plans and asked her to meet me halfway on some other things. She flipped and has cut off all communication with my son.

I think Iceman might be on to something regarding her 'well-being' these days.

Fuck I just want to get through this and get on with it all. Fucking fuck fuck shit fuck.

[Meadow Skipper]

A more or less idle and useless question, but was she always like this?

[m76b74]

No she wasn't. Had a serious breakdown after our son was born and we had some bad things happen to us at the same time. I think she's in serious need of some help. Her own attorney is telling us she's irrational and hard to work with.

[iceman]

That's a tough spot. A friend of mine is bipolar and he's fine when he's on his meds but very fucked up when he's not. He's been in suicide watch lockdown at least 4 times that I know of. Last time he filed for a divorce of his wife of 20 years out of the blue, fucked a bunch of chicks and bought a house on his own after cashing out their jointly-held retirement accounts. Sounds pretty familiar right?

For the past 5 years or so he's stayed on his meds, remarried his wife, sold the other house and hasn't been in the mental ward at all. It was tough though because the manic phase apparently feels so good that he doesn't want it to stop, so he would stop taking the meds because they stop thst feeling. And once he stopped the meds it was only a matter of time until the manic phase ended and he'd crash really really hard.

I'm not saying this is the case with your wife but it definitely seems like a possibilty. What to do about it I don't know. If she was actually bipolar you'd probably have to get her committed somehow and medicated and that can't be a pretty scene. I could contact my friend's wife and ask her how she got him committed those times if you want, I'm not sure how she did it.

[Meadow Skipper]

No she wasn't. Had a serious breakdown after our son was born and we had some bad things happen to us at the same time. I think she's in serious need of some help. Her own attorney is telling us she's irrational and hard to work with.

Well, if you keep it in mind that she's not doing so well it might help you with your feelings - take it less personally, you know? This will all get straightened out (if your lawyer's worth a shit) but you've got a kid together and when the shit gets straightened out maybe things won't be so bad between you. So, patience, and maybe even compassion. Do your best by your kid and know/hope that things'll get better when she gets back on course.

[My Pet Powder Goat]

Well there goes any shot at a decent weekend. Called the wife on her house purchase plans and asked her to meet me halfway on some other things. She flipped and has cut off all communication with my son.

What part of having your lawyer do all the communicating did you miss? By engaging her personally you're just setting yourself up and giving her an excuse to create distance; There's no compromising with crazy.

Keep your head up, bro!

Eta: Maybe see if you can't get the lawyers, or her family (if ur on good terms with them) to suggest a psychological evaluation?

[m76b74]

What part of having your lawyer do all the communicating did you miss?

it was communicated to her via the attorneys. Which is why I received a string of angry voicemails and texts - to which I didn't reply.

Ice, I appreciate the advice. I'm not sure where she is mentally right now but she's not suicidal. She is definitely in need of speaking to someone though - as her attorney told her she should do.

I have no allies with her family, they think I've ruined her life and kept her from them for years despite the fact that she cut them out for years all on her own. What a fucking mess. Who knows which person I'll get to deal with tomorrow, the rage filled crazy lady who won't bend a bit on her demands (she's threatening to kill her own house deal because I won't let her have two cars) or the normal person who wants me to be a good coparent and part of my son's life. Fucking crazy.

[My Pet Powder Goat]

Howabout mutual friends? Just someone that might be able to sit down with her over a coffee and say "you havn't been yourself lately, acting rash etc, is there anything wrong?" At least Try to gently push her toward some self examination.

She sounds nuts. Why does she need to fight for both cars?

What pushed her to go full nuclear on you? You said you b guys were great together till recently? No hints? ....I'm with ice on this, I think it's possibly undiagnosed mental illness.

Best of luck to you, and peace to her.

[skiballs]

No she wasn't. Had a serious breakdown after our son was born and we had some bad things happen.

I'm not an expert, but childbearing perticularly later in life, can cause chemical changes in the body. That can lead to some irrational behavior ( see wild mood swings). Maybe stipulate that both parties should have full medical evaluations.