Tammy Wynette cannot be reached for help-Divorce advice

[iceman]

Zero percent chance he's read this thread. No way in fuck could he stay out of this shitshow. Too much debate, too many opinions, too many people to correct

His head would've exploded by now and that probably would've made the news.

[wyeaster]

with regard to my son, which is the part of this that hurts the worst, i have to tell myself that my best days will be better, my average days will be a lot better, and my worst days won't be nearly as bad once the divorce process is complete. that means all my time with him will be much higher quality. and if i set my own standard regardless of what the other parent does which may be difficult to accept, he's going to get the best of me he could possibly get and nobody else can negate that. they might diminish it from my perspective but it doesn't change what i teach him. i'll do my best and he'll have to find his way.

[4matic]

So happy for the time I had with my son, but last night it really hit me on how fucked his life is going to be relative to how it could have been. He doesn't deserve this.

I've said this before. When I coached HS football most of the kids came from single parent families. It might end up better for him but either way don't beat yourself up. It's not like he doesn't have company and kids are more resilient than you think.

[XXX-er]

> 20 yrs ago I asked junior how he felt about the single parent thing you are guilting yourself about and he said "everyone but like 2 kid in my class are divorced so whats the big deal?"

At parent/teacher interviews the teacher said it got brought up at show & tell so all the kids discussed it

if yer good with it your kids will be good with it IME

[jgb@etree]

> 20 yrs ago I asked junior how he felt about the single parent thing you are guilting yourself about and he said "everyone but like 2 kid in my class are divorced so whats the big deal?"

At parent/teacher interviews the teacher said it got brought up at show & tell so all the kids discussed it

if yer good with it your kids will be good with it IME

Sometimes, I suppose.

My parents divorced when I was very young (<2yo) so I think I have a pretty good idea what it's like to be raised in such a situation. In many ways it was tough for me. Despite all of the BS lies my mom served up to try to to make my dad look evil he was always a great dad and that made things a little easier, but I basically felt like a ping pong ball constantly going back and forth, back and forth. As a kid my greatest fear was dying, and my greatest dream was living with my Mom & Dad under the same roof. I had everything I ever wanted as a kid, other than a 'normal' family. As an adult I realize how selfish my 'dream' was, and that it actually probably would have sucked living with them constantly at each others throats but can't say I was able to come to that realization before I became a parent myself.

[glademaster]

> 20 yrs ago I asked junior how he felt about the single parent thing you are guilting yourself about and he said "everyone but like 2 kid in my class are divorced so whats the big deal?"

At parent/teacher interviews the teacher said it got brought up at show & tell so all the kids discussed it

if yer good with it your kids will be good with it IME

My evidence us purely anecdotal, but this thread isn't exactly a peer reviewed journal submission, so fuck it. I'm not sure if it is a result of the divorce rate, marriage rate, or number of children born out of wedlock, but I think there are fewer kids being raised by single parents today than there were in the recent past.

My girlfriend has a first grader, and while there are a number of divorced and remarried parents at the school her daughter goes to, she is one of only two single parents in an entire K-8 school. Okay, make that one of three, I forgot about the sudden death of someone's parent earlier this year, but regardless my point is, I don't think being raised in a single parent household is as common today as it was 10, 15 or 20 years ago.

[babybear]

perhaps- but you also live in SLC/Utah right? that is a very family oriented area vs other areas of the country so could be more regional
you get back with the GF? awesome!!

[glademaster]

perhaps- but you also live in SLC/Utah right? that is a very family oriented area vs other areas of the country so could be more regional
you get back with the GF? awesome!!

Indeed, the Utah factor could be partly responsible for that, although her daughter goes to a private school where there are very few LDS families.

But yes, we did get back together, it's going well all things considered, and I start a new job I'm pretty damn stoked about in 10 days. Exciting times. Anyway, I'm not going to mtngirl this thread, that's enough about me.

Maybe I'll drive over to Boise to see a Pio campaign rally sometime.

[PowderHorse]

Where the divorced milfs at?

I'm here. And you guys think chicks are crazy?? [emoji91] [emoji12]

[liv2ski]

Mostly I just drink to forget the day and to help me fall asleep because my over active brain wont let me otherwise. Anyway, thanks.

As far as sleeping goes, I eat half a THC muffin and hour before bed and I am out. If i smoke some an hour before bed, same thing, I am out. Maybe try that rather than drinking to much if it is an option for you?????
I am trying really hard to drastically reduce booze in my life and while not a big fan of an herb buzz, it does help me sleep for sure.

[babybear]

I'm here. And you guys think chicks are crazy?? [emoji91] [emoji12]

you need to come around here more phorse

thought of another one of our ladies too- hikesalot!

[TWINS]

As far as sleeping goes, I eat half a THC muffin and hour before bed and I am out. If i smoke some an hour before bed, same thing, I am out. Maybe try that rather than drinking to much if it is an option for you?????
I am trying really hard to drastically reduce booze in my life and while not a big fan of an herb buzz, it does help me sleep for sure.

I have been thinking this way also.
Can't sleep "mind spinning" and body hurts " pain management"
Alcohol really messes me up the next day .
Wife is 100 percent against the herb though. Old school mentality.

[4matic]

I have been thinking this way also.
Can't sleep "mind spinning" and body hurts " pain management"
Alcohol really messes me up the next day .
Wife is 100 percent against the herb though. Old school mentality.

Ambien is a good drug.

[Gepeto]

I keep saying "I like you, Betty" to a chick I've been hanging with. ....I think she hates it.

no she don't - she' just toying with you

Does she do drugs?

anything but MJ

nows i git it

[XXX-er]

Indeed, the Utah factor could be partly responsible for that, although her daughter goes to a private school where there are very few LDS families. .

lots of fundementalist types here and so I thot god and their church takes care of them and makes them happy but a councilor friend told me no the women are depressed and so are the teens

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Thanks man. I'm enjoying the shitshow this thread has become, really I am, it's a nice distraction and a reminder of how funny this place can be. This isn't 'my' thread and it isn't for me to say how it can be used, so lets keep the good times rolling I guess. It's nice to know that other mags have me in mind though, every bit helps.

To your point it's been a very good week and a very bad week. So happy for the time I had with my son, but last night it really hit me on how fucked his life is going to be relative to how it could have been. He doesn't deserve this. Made me break down big time. Wife is also trying to soft play me since she realized her attorney isn't up to playing her games after telling her she couldn't spend all our money last week. Yeah, I'm not going to bend despite the hopeless sap that lives inside me telling me otherwise.

I may drink a bit too much these days and I know it's not helpful in the long run, but trust me when I say that I don't drink around my son, or let it interfere with my daily life with or without him. Mostly I just drink to forget the day and to help me fall asleep because my over active brain wont let me otherwise. Yeah, it's still not good, but for how low I'm feeling it's not nearly as bad as it could be - especially knowing how much I could love the sauce.

Anyway, thanks.

Your kid will be fine if you stay healthy and positive.

Ambien is a good drug.

Trolling or stupid? Ambien might be okay for occasional help sleeping but taking benzos shouldn't be a regular thing.

[4matic]

Trolling or stupid? Ambien might be okay for occasional help sleeping but taking benzos shouldn't be a regular thing.

Why not? It's exponentially better than booze or weed. Took my regular 5mg last night. Feel great.

[BmillsSkier]

I keep saying "I like you, Betty" to a chick I've been hanging with. ....I think she hates it.

Does she do drugs?

I can't tee Caddyshack quotes up any better for you guys. You're slipping.

[hikesalot]

you need to come around here more phorse

thought of another one of our ladies too- hikesalot!

Here . This thread tho . But these types of threads always have good info in case I ever get divorced. ha

I have been thinking this way also.
Can't sleep "mind spinning" and body hurts " pain management"
Alcohol really messes me up the next day .
Wife is 100 percent against the herb though. Old school mentality.

Melatonin might be worth a try first for falling asleep. Also, Ambien knocks me completely out and can't have that when I need to be able to be woken in the night if needed (kids) and get up the next day (even tried 1/2 dose, but still feel groggy waking up). Melatonin is OTC, helps you fall asleep, (not necessarily stay asleep though).

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Why not? It's exponentially better than booze or weed. Took my regular 5mg last night. Feel great.

Because it doesn't fix the underlying problem and you will be addicted to it. You may feel fine but if you take it nightly you will get withdrawal symptoms like any other benzo or alcohol if you quit taking it. It affects the same receptors. I'd agree that it's better than alcohol for OCCASIONAL use but it will fuck up your system more than weed. Why do you think the product literature and ads all say that Ambien is good for OCCASIONAL use for relief in sleep related issues? I'm not saying that you should use weed nightly either, fix the underlying problems. Exercise more and eat well and at the right times. Don't drink close to bed time.

[BmillsSkier]

His head would've exploded by now and that probably would've made the news.

I'd pay good money to have an Idaho mag show up at a Pio campaign stop and ask him some of the questions debated in this thread.

[4matic]

Ambien is a crappy high for me so I'll never be addicted. It's my work schedule that forces sleep at times that I am often unable too. Even a perfect diet and exercise routine does not always work. Ambien is much better for me because it keeps me from seeking other solutions like booze, weed, or benedryl. It's not like my doc is getting kickback for a generic drug.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Ambien is a crappy high for me so I'll never be addicted. It's my work schedule that forces sleep at times that I am often unable too. Even a perfect diet and exercise routine does not always work. Ambien is much better for me because it keeps me from seeking other solutions like booze, weed, or benedryl. It's not like my doc is getting kickback for a generic drug.

If you are taking benzos(Ambien) regularly you will get addicted to them. Unless you're awake you won't feel "high". Just because your doc is prescribing Ambien doesn't mean it's harmless. Docs don't get kickbacks for prescribing drugs anymore. Benadryl may make you groggy but it is a way safer alternative than Ambien and even then you shouldn't use benadryl nightly.

[4matic]

Why does the internet say ambien is not a benzo yet you refer to it as one? Addiction is just a word. I'm addicted to coffee. I'm addicted to yogurt. All I know is ambien works for me and I feel MUCH better having it to use. I mean 5 mg is nothing.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Why does the internet say ambien is not a benzo yet you refer to it as one? Addiction is just a word. I'm addicted to coffee. I'm addicted to yogurt. All I know is ambien works for me and I feel MUCH better having it to use. I mean 5 mg is nothing.

Ambien works the same as benzos, same pathways, same affect on the CNS. Same problems with tolerance, dependence and withdrawal. I had to deal with this for years with my ex. Simply stating that you feel MUCH better having it to use shows you have a dependence issue with it.

I think you're trolling or incredibly uninformed.