Wagon Stoke

[plugboots]

2017 Mini Clubman 168″ L x 71″ W x 57″ H
2017 VW Golf 168″ L x 71″ W x 57″ H

The biggest Mini is the same size as the Golf. Including the wheelbase.

[Ted Striker]

ok.. same size.

but I'm talking about the difference between that and this:

[PNWbrit]

Now that's a mini.

[Ted Striker]

wagons too:

[BmillsSkier]

In spite of the grill it's a pretty good looking rig IMO.

How bout this one? Well executed, looks fun as hell.

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1985-volvo-240-wagon/

I'm not a tuner kind of guy at all but there's something about that I like. Also, the prancing moose logos kill me. Saw one on a neighbors new XC90 and didn't know what the fuck it was - found out on the googles and had a chuckle. See em a lot now.

That's with the NA straight 6, right? I feel like those drivetrains were the last beemers I trusted. Sweet ride.

Didn't see what the badge was on back, but the '30s models were the engine you're thinking of If it's a '35 then it's a turbo job. One of my favorite engines of all time was my old e90 BMW 330i, it was the High Output NA straight 6's last year, the only year made in the e90's before they went 335 and turbo'd em. Paired with the mechanical 6AT and not the crap electronic shitbox tranny and that thing was gold. Prettiest exhaust note you ever heard too. Anyway, sweet wagon BB.

[Ted Striker]

I actually thought that was a ferrari sticker - as a lark. The prancing moose is even better.

[BmillsSkier]

I actually thought that was a ferrari sticker - as a lark. The prancing moose is even better.

Oh yeah, it's kinda funny:

Where did the Prancing Moose come from?

[InspectorGadget]

My V70R had a prancing moose grill sticker; it always made me laugh.

The white wagon above reminds me of the Volvo 245 turbo wagon I had that was 'lightly' massaged.

[plugboots]

Best mini wagon:


Smaller than a Golf, but more room inside.

[PNWbrit]

the prancing moose.

My Dad and Uncle used to build and race rally cars in the UK in the late sixties.

They were hired by a young, rich Argentine amateur-racer to build a car for the 1970 London to Mexico City World Cup Rally.

Most of the big manufacturers already had entries in the race but they ended up persuading Volvo to give them semi official "works" assistance with a 144 Sedan.

The car made it to Mexico City but well down the order due to lack of talent of driver.

Dad and Uncle were the car's pit crew for the race. There are some great stories about their adventures just keeping up with the race.

Dad ended up with a garage full of Volvo performance and custom upgraded parts from Gothenberg....hot engines, suspension parts, trans, big brakes etc. Most of it eventually got put into the family Volvo 145 wagon which became quite the sleeper car.

[BmillsSkier]

My Dad and Uncle used to build and race rally cars in the UK in the late sixties.

They were hired by a young, rich Argentine amateur-racer to build a car for the 1970 London to Mexico City World Cup Rally.

Most of the big manufacturers already had entries in the race but they ended up persuading Volvo to give them semi official "works" assistance with a 144 Sedan.

The car made it to Mexico City but well down the order due to lack of talent of driver.

Dad and Uncle were the car's pit crew for the race. There are some great stories about their adventures just keeping up with the race.

Dad ended up with a garage full of Volvo performance and custom upgraded parts from Gothenberg....hot engines, suspension parts, trans, big brakes etc. Most of it eventually got put into the family Volvo 145 wagon which became quite the sleeper car.

That's awesome. Would love to see pics one day if you have any.

[PNWbrit]

That's awesome. Would love to see pics one day if you have any.

I have a few of the rally car somewhere in old emails I'll try and find them.

[gravitylover]

For the record, real Minis were built by BMC before BMW fattened them up.

Welcome back. All is well?

In spite of the grill it's a pretty good looking rig IMO.

How bout this one? Well executed, looks fun as hell.

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1985-volvo-240-wagon/

I saw the sweetest old 242 wagon yesterday. Light blue and not a spec of rust anywhere. Appeared to be totally stock inside and out. https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1Q...oTecT9j7NKOIZ3 Don't know if the link to the pic will work. I'm no good at this interweb stuff...

[Sirshredalot]

I'm not a tuner kind of guy at all but there's something about that I like. Also, the prancing moose logos kill me. Saw one on a neighbors new XC90 and didn't know what the fuck it was - found out on the googles and had a chuckle. See em a lot now.



Didn't see what the badge was on back, but the '30s models were the engine you're thinking of If it's a '35 then it's a turbo job. One of my favorite engines of all time was my old e90 BMW 330i, it was the High Output NA straight 6's last year, the only year made in the e90's before they went 335 and turbo'd em. Paired with the mechanical 6AT and not the crap electronic shitbox tranny and that thing was gold. Prettiest exhaust note you ever heard too. Anyway, sweet wagon BB.

I've known a few people with the turbo 335s and they've been nothing but trouble. BMW moving away from wagons (in the us market), manual transmissions, and toward turbos has kind of lost me.

My dad had a 535i from 1989 that he owned until 2000 or so. He refused to sell it to me. I'm still kind of upset over that: it was cherry and would have been quite the ride for a college kid.

[BigDaddy]

Dad ended up with a garage full of Volvo performance and custom upgraded parts from Gothenberg....hot engines, suspension parts, trans, big brakes etc. Most of it eventually got put into the family Volvo 145 wagon which became quite the sleeper car.

My dad had a 535i from 1989 that he owned until 2000 or so. He refused to sell it to me. I'm still kind of upset over that: it was cherry and would have been quite the ride for a college kid.

I have a friend who only buys/collects late 90's/early 2000's BMW's. He loves to build sleeper cars and has an old 535 wagon with an 850 engine... maybe 500 hp? He's got at least ten different rigs, so a serious addict. I need some pics...

[BmillsSkier]

I've known a few people with the turbo 335s and they've been nothing but trouble. BMW moving away from wagons (in the us market), manual transmissions, and toward turbos has kind of lost me.

My dad had a 535i from 1989 that he owned until 2000 or so. He refused to sell it to me. I'm still kind of upset over that: it was cherry and would have been quite the ride for a college kid.

We've still got our '08 335i and it has been one of the most trusty, fun cars to own. Great output in the platform, but given the choice I'd still take the '06 330i with the NA engine. Now on the other hand 2 of our old X5's had the turbo'd I6 and while the engines were fine the cars themselves were electronic gremlin breeders. I place it squarely on the day they moved to that electronic shitbox transmission. Good riddance.

I'd be all over a 5 series wagon if they ever brought one back to the US (especially in a NA format) but I think both of those are great white buffalo at this point for the market here.

An '89 535 wagon would be nothing short of sweet to this day.

[Sirshredalot]

We've still got our '08 335i and it has been one of the most trusty, fun cars to own. Great output in the platform, but given the choice I'd still take the '06 330i with the NA engine. Now on the other hand 2 of our old X5's had the turbo'd I6 and while the engines were fine the cars themselves were electronic gremlin breeders. I place it squarely on the day they moved to that electronic shitbox transmission. Good riddance.

I'd be all over a 5 series wagon if they ever brought one back to the US (especially in a NA format) but I think both of those are great white buffalo at this point for the market here.

An '89 535 wagon would be nothing short of sweet to this day.

My old man's was the sedan. I'm not sure if the US market had the wagon then. I think I remember starting to see the wagon circa 94-95 in the 525.

I'm glad to hear you've had luck with the 335. My friends who've had them have both experienced difficult problems with the turbo. Fun as shit when they've been running, though.

[BmillsSkier]

My old man's was the sedan. I'm not sure if the US market had the wagon then. I think I remember starting to see the wagon circa 94-95 in the 525.

I'm glad to hear you've had luck with the 335. My friends who've had them have both experienced difficult problems with the turbo. Fun as shit when they've been running, though.

My bad, I must have misread it in 'wagon thread' mode. Still, a very cool vintage 5 series.

Thanks, yeah, it's been a very fun car even with the auto. Biggest issue I've had so far has been replacing the passenger door lock actuator and some belt tensioner that BMW thought was a good idea to make out of plastic. $5 part, $250 fix.

As for vintage BMW wagons, the mid-2000's 540i wagon is about as tits as it gets in my book.



Someone had a DINAN tuned one on ebay for like a year. I wonder if it ever sold. Was asking a ton.

[stfu&gbtw]

http://m.cars.com/vehicledetail/#vdp...ngId=675940053

It's listed as an AWD MT. Haven't checked the pics.

Edit: not a manual.

[refried]

I guess I have a thing for white wagons

[Harry]

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1999-bmw-528it/

"this BMW wagon was transformed with a modified 7-liter GM LSx 427 iron-block engine mated to a T56 Tremec Magnum 6-speed manual transmission producing a dyno-proven 493 horsepower and 467 lb-ft. of torque at the wheels."

[BmillsSkier]

^^^
That's nuts.

I want to drive it. But that's nuts.

[uglymoney]

They had an Alltrack at the UCI Cyclocross event in Iowa City today. I asked them to open the trunk so I could get a peek but they couldn't find the keys. Looks good irl though.

[frorider]

Who's 'them'? Are they idiots?

[gravitylover]

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1999-bmw-528it/

"this BMW wagon was transformed with a modified 7-liter GM LSx 427 iron-block engine mated to a T56 Tremec Magnum 6-speed manual transmission producing a dyno-proven 493 horsepower and 467 lb-ft. of torque at the wheels."

Holy sht. That would be fun