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    Quote Originally Posted by skaredshtles View Post
    Pretty much.
    Humans, and particularly Americans, have always been better at fixing things than preventing them.

    Increase mental health and social programs to prevent crime? Fuck that. We don't prevent criminals, we punish them.

    Promote preventative medicine to improve overall health? Fuck that. Insurance will pay for your coronary stents.

    Implement aid and trade programs to improve conditions in Mexico and Latin America to disincentivize illegal immigration? Fuck that. Build a wall.

    We, as a society, have always resisted paying for a "maybe" up front. We'd rather swallow the consequences down the line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK47bp View Post
    You're onto something here. Babies are delicious and produce 50-100 watts of power.
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    Is that sous vide?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PNWbrit View Post
    Is that sous vide?
    The other other white meat

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    More tender than the most tender Veal.

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    Any recipe ideas?

    Also, is it better to eat babies or older kids (which taste best / provide the most nutrition)?

    Do asshole kids taste like shit?

    So many questions...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WMD View Post
    Also, is it better to eat babies or older kids
    Depends on how many people you're feeding?
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    Ok, this global warming shit is getting out of hand...

    This article nails it. Why is it so popular to say we are fucked so we shouldn't try to do anything about climate change? The whole article is worth a read, but here are some excerpts:

    Climate Change Edgelords Are the New Climate Change Deniers

    People who get off on being wet blankets about the coming climate apocalypse are as bad for the cause as skeptics, if not worse.

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/p...change-deniers

    "This brand of coolness must be very fun online, because it’s showing up a lot these days. If you express a modicum of can-do spirit, or tweet about taking action to "stop" climate change, an edgelord will see it as their job to throw cold water on your enthusiasm, just as a denier will see it as their job to say climate science is a scam made up by China and George Soros."

    “triage” is exactly what climate activism already is. Climate change has happened. As noted in the IPCC report, our planet is already about 1 degree Celsius hotter than it was before the Industrial Revolution, and so far civilization is, well, not exactly copacetic, but more or less hanging in there. That's about to start getting less and less true, but no one exactly knows how much less.

    In other words, people like me with our “hope” and our desire for our species to “not go extinct” aren’t idiotically clinging to the delusion that maybe the big bad thing won’t happen. We’re trying not to let the big bad thing that is happening get infinitely worse.

    So let’s not delude ourselves. The situation is very bad, but climate change will be better or worse based on our choices now. Apathy and cynicism may feel like a very mentally healthy form of acceptance of our collective fate—but these attitudes are actually just abdication of responsibility. What's more, antagonizing people for trying to build a movement for a cause you know damn well is worthwhile is an exercise in a sort of supervillain-esque misanthropy which demands that your entire species join you in suicide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PB View Post
    So: meat eating = bad, and kids = bad.

    Obvious solution: eat kids
    Me tonight: What do you want for dinner babe?

    Babe: Babies

    Me: What kind of babies?

    Babe: Plump

    Me: Haha

    Actually conversation before I winged it on some grilled ahi. Turned out okay but I cooked it a little too long. Her joke had me rolling but maybe you had to be there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WMD View Post
    This article nails it. Why is it so popular to say we are fucked so we shouldn't try to do anything about climate change? The whole article is worth a read, but here are some excerpts:
    Agree, thanks for posting. We should not quit

    "There's just work to do, regardless of what we think it will accomplish."

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    This guy Hal Harvey impressed me at the LA Climate Reality training in August. He made the case there were a small number, like 50 or less, people we needed to influence to get results. It was the utility/energy commissions in the largest power consuming states. A pragmatic and convincing take. Here is some of his stuff. He has a book coming out Nov 1 I'm looking forward to.
    https://energyinnovation.org/2018/05...change-policy/

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    Quote Originally Posted by toast2266 View Post
    Capitalism and democracy are poorly suited for the massive changes that are needed. The world needs a benevolent dictator.
    Such bullshit. Climate change isn’t a failure of Capitalism. We have been seeing a global political move to “strong man” leaders and none of them give 2 shits about the future. Take a look at Brazil.

    Markets, with effective government regulation, are the best solutions to climate change. The cost of energy needs to fucking rise through carbon penalties, restrictions on supply, and a decrease in demand. The market is already going to work with increased capitalization of climate change mitigation technology. See today’s article in Bloomberg.

    The number one proponent of climate change is Putin, he is the benevolent dictator who wants his people to have to spend less on winter clothes and have more access to warm water ports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conundrum View Post
    Me tonight: What do you want for dinner babe?

    Babe: Babies

    Me: What kind of babies?

    Babe: Plump

    Me: Haha

    Actually conversation before I winged it on some grilled ahi. Turned out okay but I cooked it a little too long. Her joke had me rolling but maybe you had to be there.
    Read a “Modest Proposal,” by Johnathan Swift and then read (don’t wimp out and watch the film) The Road by Cormac MacCarthy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Want A Storm Hood View Post
    Such bullshit. Climate change isn’t a failure of Capitalism. We have been seeing a global political move to “strong man” leaders and none of them give 2 shits about the future. Take a look at Brazil.

    Markets, with effective government regulation, are the best solutions to climate change. The cost of energy needs to fucking rise through carbon penalties, restrictions on supply, and a decrease in demand. The market is already going to work with increased capitalization of climate change mitigation technology. See today’s article in Bloomberg.

    The number one proponent of climate change is Putin, he is the benevolent dictator who wants his people to have to spend less on winter clothes and have more access to warm water ports.
    When I say "benevolent dictator" and you say "like Putin," it leads me to believe that we are not on the same page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toast2266 View Post
    Humans, and particularly Americans, have always been better at fixing things than preventing them.

    Increase mental health and social programs to prevent crime? Fuck that. We don't prevent criminals, we punish them.

    Promote preventative medicine to improve overall health? Fuck that. Insurance will pay for your coronary stents.

    Implement aid and trade programs to improve conditions in Mexico and Latin America to disincentivize illegal immigration? Fuck that. Build a wall.

    We, as a society, have always resisted paying for a "maybe" up front. We'd rather swallow the consequences down the line.
    And you are blessed with the most productive, wealthiest, most socially mobile society on the face of the planet and lucky to live in this era compared to any other era in human history. Is it perfect? Absolutely not. Overall though its a pretty damn good time to be a human.
    I'm the furthest person who wants big government, but this is going to take some next level 1 million times larger than the Manhattan Project typed initiative to come up with the next gen of power.
    I always think of George Carlin who pointed out, the earth is not fucked, the environment humans need to live on earth is fucked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncskier View Post
    And you are blessed with the most productive, wealthiest, most socially mobile society on the face of the planet and lucky to live in this era compared to any other era in human history. Is it perfect? Absolutely not. Overall though its a pretty damn good time to be a human.
    I'm the furthest person who wants big government, but this is going to take some next level 1 million times larger than the Manhattan Project typed initiative to come up with the next gen of power.
    I always think of George Carlin who pointed out, the earth is not fucked, the environment humans need to live on earth is fucked.
    We aren't the most productive, wealthiest, or most socially mobile society.

    There are quite a few countries wealthier and more productive than ours on a per capita basis. Our intergenerational social mobility is dogshit compared to our OECD peers.

    We don't need a Manhattan Project to dream up new power sources. We have them now and they are cheaper than non-renewables. All we need is current technology to make the switch to mostly-renewable generation. Our government is in bed with the Russians and fucking coal company owners, and has no feeling of responsibility to the people of this country, so we aren't making the switch fast enough.

    I would gladly welcome a Manhattan Project for carbon capture, though. I think we will need it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WMD View Post
    Any recipe ideas?

    Also, is it better to eat babies or older kids (which taste best / provide the most nutrition)?

    Do asshole kids taste like shit?

    So many questions...
    First, get a blender.

    Second, make a roux.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirshredalot View Post
    We aren't the most productive, wealthiest, or most socially mobile society.

    There are quite a few countries wealthier and more productive than ours on a per capita basis. Our intergenerational social mobility is dogshit compared to our OECD peers.

    We don't need a Manhattan Project to dream up new power sources. We have them now and they are cheaper than non-renewables. All we need is current technology to make the switch to mostly-renewable generation. Our government is in bed with the Russians and fucking coal company owners, and has no feeling of responsibility to the people of this country, so we aren't making the switch fast enough.

    I would gladly welcome a Manhattan Project for carbon capture, though. I think we will need it.

    Yeah, but those other more mobile, prosperous, per capita states would fit in Delaware.

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    use the lips, eyelids and assholes for baby/kid sausage!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirshredalot View Post
    We aren't the most productive, wealthiest, or most socially mobile society.

    There are quite a few countries wealthier and more productive than ours on a per capita basis. Our intergenerational social mobility is dogshit compared to our OECD peers.

    We don't need a Manhattan Project to dream up new power sources. We have them now and they are cheaper than non-renewables. All we need is current technology to make the switch to mostly-renewable generation. Our government is in bed with the Russians and fucking coal company owners, and has no feeling of responsibility to the people of this country, so we aren't making the switch fast enough.

    I would gladly welcome a Manhattan Project for carbon capture, though. I think we will need it.
    The north american power grid alone is a patchwork created over the past 120 years. The loss of power alone in transmission is a known problem for the electrical grid. it would be huge undertaking alone to rebuild and increase power distribution

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slopetime View Post
    Yeah, but those other more mobile, prosperous, per capita states would fit in Delaware.
    I'm not sure why land mass is relevant here, but you should pull out an Atlas and take a gander at Canada.

    Quote Originally Posted by ncskier View Post
    The north american power grid alone is a patchwork created over the past 120 years. The loss of power alone in transmission is a known problem for the electrical grid. it would be huge undertaking alone to rebuild and increase power distribution
    We are underinvested in infrastructure all the way around, but this isn't a cause for moon shot style r and d. It's just a matter of not pissing our money away on deficit-financed tax breaks for gajillionaires and wars in Iraq and instead spending it in places with positive ROI.

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    If we want to get anywhere on climate change we need to talk about it. Politicians won't act on this unless pushed by the people. The people won't push them if we never talk about it or make it a priority.

    First rule of climate change is always talk about climate change!!

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    Thunderstorms predicted this afternoon. In Massachusetts. In mid-October. wtf

    yeah it's weather not climate but still wtf

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Thunderstorms predicted this afternoon. In Massachusetts. In mid-October. wtf

    yeah it's weather not climate but still wtf
    Yeah but weird weather is climate change in action. Mention "could this be climate change?" To everyone you talk to about the strange weather. Talking about it increases awareness which leads to action.

    I've heard a lot of people say "crazy hurricane season we're having." Climate change means more and larger storms. Hurricane Michael is so powerful partially because the Gulf waters are extraordinarily warm.

    We need to link the weird weather events with climate change in our own and others minds or we won't do anything about it.

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    yeah I know but putting too much on any particular event is wrong too and ultimately counter-productive imo. Like Inhofe with the fucking snowball in the Senate, it's anti-scientific. Patterns and data is where it's at for changing minds.

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    True, but the patterns are that weird weather is occurring more often than it used to, and thinks that never used to happen now happen. If we don't talk about it we will never get anywhere. That's why I suggested that
    We just ask the question "could this be climate change?" We aren't declaring anything but it does hopefully start the discussion.

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