Scratch BC 05-06 vs. any Gotama

[2-planker]

Hi to everybody here. A few days back I had the chance to try next year's Scratch BC and I felt in love with it. Next year I'm gonna buy new sticks and I was thinking of the Gotama. But I have never been on it, neither on the Explosiv. And now I liked this Scratch. So if anyone has tested the new Scratch BC AND have been on Gotamas, could you tell me which one do you like better? How is the flex of one of them compared to the other? And so long...
The sticks are going to be my everyday skis. I'm going to ride them everywhere (but parks) - groomers, crud, pow, ice... I'm 184cm, 75kg., I like speed and long turns. I like stiffer skis, and really loved how the new Scratch bc is. So any comments of the Gotama compared to this Scrtach are helpfull. I have a very good deal for 03-04 Gotamas. Are they really softer than this year's?

[Meathelmet]

1. Use search.
2. Use search.
3. Change your name, here is allready one TwoPlanker, so you´r ripping his steeze of.
4. And yes, the 03-04 gotamas are softer,quite a bit,than 04-05.
5. And the turnradius is larger on the gotamas so as a pisteski the scratch might
be more suitable for you.
6. Use search.

[2-planker]

1.2.6. I did used the search button but I want someone to tell me straight the differences in these two skis. So I don't give a fuck that I have created a new thread - what does it matters to you?
3. Sorry for the other 2-planker. But I'm just interested in what I've asked and I'm not gonna post anything else so my nickname whouldn't be that much of a problem.
4. Thank you for confirming that.
5. Thanks you for that as well

[extreeski]

Wow,

That kind of response will not get you much help here.

JONG!!!!!

What I would like to say is that with the gotama, it will be more your pow/soft day ski. Scratch BC may be more for the park and bc and less for the really deep stuff.

You are comparing different width skis. The gotama is a great one, even with the cracking/delam that's been happening on about 1/8 of the skis produced. But those who have the gotama love it on powder days. And I mean LOVE IT!!!

[Below Zero]

But I'm just interested in my own damn question. I'm not interested in contributing anything to the board. So, just answer my fucking question so I can get the hell out of here

So, this is basically what you are trying to say, correct?

[2-planker]

So you people call me "jong" and think this is a stupid thread? Well fine. I guess that threads like "Stickers on skis - is it gay" are better. Or maybe 1000 different threads about the BRO model skis? Or 100 about the Gotama sidewall cracks? Or.... Fine - so be it. But I suppose that there are moderators here and they should decide if this is a dumb question or not. If it is - delete it and everything shoud be all right.
Thanks for the help anyways...

[Lurch]

So you people call me "jong" and think this is a stupid thread? Well fine. I guess that threads like "Stickers on skis - is it gay" are better. Or maybe 1000 different threads about the BRO model skis? Or 100 about the Gotama sidewall cracks? Or.... Fine - so be it. But I suppose that there are moderators here and they should decide if this is a dumb question or not. If it is - delete it and everything shoud be all right.
Thanks for the help anyways...

I think you'd like it better at http://forums.epicski.com/

[2-planker]

I think you'd like it better at http://forums.epicski.com/

no shit?

[Foggy_Goggles]

1.2.6. I did used the search button but I want someone to tell me straight the differences in these two skis. So I don't give a fuck that I have created a new thread - what does it matters to you?
3. Sorry for the other 2-planker. But I'm just interested in what I've asked and I'm not gonna post anything else so my nickname whouldn't be that much of a problem.
4. Thank you for confirming that.
5. Thanks you for that as well

In summary fuck you

I'm just rollin in hear to get some info and then blazing so I don't give a fuck how shit goes down around here isn't gonna get you many answers, FYI.

[2-planker]

In summary fuck you

I'm just rollin in hear to get some info and then blazing so I don't give a fuck how shit goes down around here isn't gonna get you many answers, FYI.

fuck you, too mate. I didn't wanted to blaze. Whatever...

[Foggy_Goggles]

. I didn't wanted to blaze. Whatever...

But I'm just interested in what I've asked and I'm not gonna post anything else so my nickname whouldn't be that much of a problem

huh?_________________

[2-planker]

Just wanted to get the information I need, without insulting anyone. Then I was gonna kick my ass out of the forum and wouldn't disturbe you.
Peace, I'm out.

[El Chupacabra]

I'm surprised someone just hasn't provided a comparison between the skis, even if they hadn't actually tried the skis... like this...

"Sure, I can compare those skis. I read an article once about the Gotama. I hear it's a really good powder ski. And I saw the Scratch BC once on a chairlift. It looked pretty fat too; bet it'd be good in pow. Guy who owned it said he liked it a lot.

Flex? Yep, they both got plenty o' that. Given my druthers, I'd have to say that the BC has a more rounded flex, but that the Gotama is pretty competent at flexing when necessary.

I guess it really all comes down to whether you want a German Buddhist ski or a French BackCountry twin-tip ski. Schnitzel or escargot?"

[verbier61]

FWIW, I skied both. Love the gotama, hate the scratch. But, for what you've said (one-ski quiver, penchant for stiff skis, etc), I would suggest you to try mantras, or legend pros, or








yes,








ya know,









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BROs

[verbier61]

In other words, for me gotamas are quite pow-restricted, and scratches are too heavy and dump. Hope it can be of help

[SquawMan]

Mantras are the bomb, demo them

[2-planker]

Thanks for all the replys. I guess I'll go with the Scratch.

[Meathelmet]

Just wanted to get the information I need, without insulting anyone. Then I was gonna kick my ass out of the forum and wouldn't disturbe you.
Peace, I'm out.

Remember your promises.

[Teletori]

Thanks for all the replys. I guess I'll go scratch my ass...

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[Jim S]

This is one tough crowd!

[lingcod]

Nah, 2 planker, it's not a tough crowd, it's just a crowd of unempowered asshole hall monitors with nothing much else to do is except sit at the screen, and wait for someone new to come along and violate some secret handshake code so they can flash their membership badges, flame you with "jong!" and "search" and "bro" and blah, blah, blah. Note that you received some excellent, objective responses from self-confident and decent people (though, Verbier, you must no longer say "dump." It's "damp!" Damp! At least I think that's what you mean.) Also, 2 planker, you're asking about scratches, which, being Rossignols, immediately make them very uncool here, so you can't expect much of an objective response, especially from people who never have or refuse to ski them or had a friend who broke one once or whatever. Finally, the notion that you would ask for simple help and information on a message board, without "contributing," is, apparently, more than you should expect. Don't sweat it. You got a couple of responses from people, a whole bunch of shit from a whole bunch of shitheads, and, well, I guess you're not in the club. Me neither. So, now, we await the cackling and crowing and jonging and all that.

[Duker]

yeah this place sucks....

In fact Im going to waste my time coming back to a place that sucks so I can tell everyone it sucks.

[SquawMan]

Nah, 2 planker, it's not a tough crowd, it's just a crowd of unempowered asshole hall monitors with nothing much else to do is except sit at the screen, and wait for someone new to come along and violate some secret handshake code so they can flash their membership badges, flame you with "jong!" and "search" and "bro" and blah, blah, blah. Note that you received some excellent, objective responses from self-confident and decent people (though, Verbier, you must no longer say "dump." It's "damp!" Damp! At least I think that's what you mean.) Also, 2 planker, you're asking about scratches, which, being Rossignols, immediately make them very uncool here, so you can't expect much of an objective response, especially from people who never have or refuse to ski them or had a friend who broke one once or whatever. Finally, the notion that you would ask for simple help and information on a message board, without "contributing," is, apparently, more than you should expect. Don't sweat it. You got a couple of responses from people, a whole bunch of shit from a whole bunch of shitheads, and, well, I guess you're not in the club. Me neither. So, now, we await the cackling and crowing and jonging and all that.

you are 110% correct sir! - Ed McMahon

[verbier61]

Nah, 2 planker, it's not a tough crowd, it's just a crowd of unempowered asshole hall monitors with nothing much else to do is except sit at the screen, and wait for someone new to come along and violate some secret handshake code so they can flash their membership badges, flame you with "jong!" and "search" and "bro" and blah, blah, blah. Note that you received some excellent, objective responses from self-confident and decent people (though, Verbier, you must no longer say "dump." It's "damp!" Damp! At least I think that's what you mean.) Also, 2 planker, you're asking about scratches, which, being Rossignols, immediately make them very uncool here, so you can't expect much of an objective response, especially from people who never have or refuse to ski them or had a friend who broke one once or whatever. Finally, the notion that you would ask for simple help and information on a message board, without "contributing," is, apparently, more than you should expect. Don't sweat it. You got a couple of responses from people, a whole bunch of shit from a whole bunch of shitheads, and, well, I guess you're not in the club. Me neither. So, now, we await the cackling and crowing and jonging and all that.

you're prolly right. I prolly meant damp. But, please, what exactly damp means? Looking at my oxford dictionary (you might have understood english is not my mother tongue), this word has nothing to do with skiing

[SquawMan]

you're prolly right. I prolly meant damp. But, please, what exactly damp means? Looking at my oxford dictionary (you might have understood english is not my mother tongue), this word has nothing to do with skiing

a damp ski is a ski that doesn't rebound the energy back to the rider, it absorbs the bumps while you are skiing so you don't feel them

the opposite of a damp ski would be a 'springy' ski or a snappy ski, one that feels like it recoils back and wants to throw you off it at worst or springs you into a turn at best

hope that helps