I've personally never seen a mentally competent* patient forced to have an examination or treatment against their will but as this article demonstrates it certainly happens.
The exception--in California at least and I assume other states there is an implied consent law--for the privilege (not right) of getting a driver's license you agree to be tested for alcohol and drugs if you are apprehended driving a vehicle.
Unlike the charge nurse in the article, the ER nurses I have known over the years are very good at defusing interactions between patients and police and good at calming combative patients.
*Mentally competent doesn't mean agrees with the doctor or is intelligent-whatever that means. It means they have a basic understanding of who they are, where they are, why they are there, and what the consequences of refusal are. A heavily intoxicated state senator may be incompetent to refuse to have his head laceration sewn up; a patient with Down's syndrome may very well be.
Dr.Harper's writing style is a bit overwrought--a common failing of MD's turned authors.
Some of us recall the ER nurse in Salt Lake who got arrested for refusing to take blood from an unconscious patient in police custody. Got $500k settlement from city and the hospital
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...in%20September.
Hard to understand why the cop didn't go to jail for making an arrest he knew was not justified.
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/11/...etective-jeff/
And yet he was able to be hired as a "civilian" in LE, ironically in the medical unit of a jail
BTW I came across this "The Court refused to adopt a per se rule that in DWI cases exigent circumstances exist in every case, thereby automatically eliminating the need for a warrant. Instead, the Court, relying on its decision in Schmerber v. California, [9] ruled that in DWI cases officers are required to obtain a warrant to draw blood from a suspect as long as the warrant can be reasonably obtained without significantly undermining the chance to obtain meaningful evidence. Moreover, the Court held that exigent circumstances obviating the need for a warrant must be determined on a case by case basis by a “Totality of Circumstances” test. This test would include all relevant factors that taken together would justify a warrantless blood draw. These factors include the fact that the presence of alcohol in the blood will dissipate over time but that alone will not be enough to justify proceeding without a warrant. [10]" The Court being the SCOTUS
So what I posted earlier must be outdated.
https://www.policeone.com/police-pro...5DPajUpQF3TzV/ (A police web site.)
Columbia, SC
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Good lord.
Springfield, MA. One of the Worst Police Departments in the Country.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/07/...ments-country/Among the most disturbing cases included in the report involved two narcotics officers questioning teenage suspects accused of stealing an unmarked police SUV in February 2016. As surveillance cameras captured the exchange, officer Gregg Bigda, who is white, tells a 15-year-old Latino boy that “I’m not hampered by the [expletive] truth because I don’t give a [expletive]. People like you belong in jail. ... I’ll stick a [expletive] kilo of coke in your pocket and put you away for [expletive] 15 years.”
To another teen suspect in the case, Bigda displayed a dirty boot, saying it was stained with the blood of one of the other boys. “That’ll be yours on this shoe,” he said, pointing to his other boot.
“They knew they were on video,” says Howard Friedman, a Boston-based civil rights lawyer who is currently suing the city of Springfield on behalf of another one of the teens, a 14-year-old Latino boy who says he was kicked in the face and spat on by Bigda while handcuffed. “That shows knowledge that they will be protected by their department, no matter how outrageous their conduct is.”
Despite such abuses, the DOJ report found, officers in the unit rarely went punished.
Though department policy requires senior staff commanders to refer any questionable use-of-force incident resulting in prisoner injuries to the Internal Investigations Unit, the DOJ found that between 2013 and 2018, not a single referral was made in cases involving the narcotics unit or the department as a whole. Civilian allegations made to internal affairs also went unpunished; in the past six years, the report noted, not a single excessive force complaint against a narcotics officer has been sustained by the department.
Fuckin' chicken shit aiming that shotgun at another human that poses no threat to this chicken shit is exactly what I see here. He doesn't even look like he knows how to aim that shotgun. Probably nervous as fuck as all those LEO's should be with only a pea shooter to protect their little brains.
Still an easy shot to the temple of the LEO or whatever the fuck he is. Why exactly haven't these guys been taking bullets to the head by some snipers here and there? Sorry, you aim a gun at me and I'm gonna aim one right back and use only one bullet.
I love coming here when I'm bored just to get my Jerry Springer type entertainment. This place always delivers.
Internet tough guys are the best. I'm sure you'd left a brown stain in your pants if that guy was pointing a 12 gauge at your head. Guess you've never played with camera angles because I'd bet that he's not even close to aiming it at her and if he was, she's being amazingly cool having that shotgun pointed at her. You obviously no fuck all about handling a weapon with a pro mask on.
Smoke some more crack and then post that again, chicken shit.
More than likely I'd NOT be shitting my pants if a chicken shit like that aimed a pea shooter at me. I'd return fire as I should. Me being threatened with a weapon doesn't sit well with me and I'll aim a weapon right back and pay the consequences if it came to be.
A pro mask? Looks more like an excuse to cover his ugly face. I've handled many a high powered rifles and have a damned good aim. Your point? Not like this little chicken shit trying to aim a pea shooter at a non threatening object. Or maybe you'd melt if someone held a sign in your face and asked what someone was being detained for then aim a pea shooter at that person because you felt threatened. How's that leather taste?
Showdown at High Noon!!! Better than a ski off!!! Vegas laying odds on AKPogue to win.
Fucking crack smoking interwebtards
Yeah. You’d pull your weapon against one of a dozen armed Leo’s
Give it a try. And report back on how things went.
Ps. The pic is sad, but she’s trying to get past the police line to see her friend. Don’t try to get past a police line. Give them space. Or they might just shoot or beat you. A warning is not required. It’s common sense.
Kill all the telemarkers
But they’ll put us in jail if we kill all the telemarkers
Telemarketers! Kill the telemarketers!
Oh we can do that. We don’t even need a reason
Hey, she pulled her mask down ....... assault?
Just what I thought. More blathering from a internet warrior. It's obvious from your blathering you've never handled a weapon with a pro mask on. It's also obvious you can't tell when the pic has been used to tell a false story.
I'd doubt I'd melt. I've been shot at a few times, once when I was in a working as a paramedic unarmed in the Ukraine War zone.
In order to properly convert this thread to a polyasshat thread to more fully enrage the liberal left frequenting here...... (insert latest democratic blunder of your choice).
Leave akpouge alone he's just sad in the pants that that he hasn't yet gotten an invite to join the brownshirts and tear gas peaceful protesters.
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Secret Service cops terrorize 2 Black moms with their babies.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...ge%2Fstory-ans
^^ Stay classy, JP.
I don't care if its 130 degrees out. its not a fucking water park. Jesus christ show some fucking respect.
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