Police Behaving Badly

[mcski]

Toronto showing how actually brave cops should act. I'm sure a US dept would discipline or fire him for that

[AdironRider]

I don't think I'd fault the cop for firing in that situation if he did, regardless of my current opinions on cops. I mean that guy did just mow down a couple dozen people with a van.

Opposed to 99% of situations where cops "fear for their lives", this one actually holds water. The stones on that cop are grapefruits. Good for him.

[old goat]

I couldn't tell--was the guy holding a gun, pointing some other object, or pointing with this fingers?
The officer in the car filming the incident didn't seem too interested in getting involved until the guy was already cuffed.

[summit]

I couldn't tell--was the guy holding a gun, pointing some other object, or pointing with this fingers?
The officer in the car filming the incident didn't seem too interested in getting involved until the guy was already cuffed.

He was holding a cellphone, saying he had a gun, doing the drawing motion to provoke the cop. The cop used his eyeballs and human brain to evaluate.

I'm sure some police instructors would have told him to not take that time, to fire instinctively to a drawing movement... and maybe he wouldn't have been wrong to fire... depends when he made the determination vs when he had his own weapon on target.

I'm guessing the second officer was covering the first one from the car?

[old goat]

He was holding a cellphone, saying he had a gun, doing the drawing motion to provoke the cop. The cop used his eyeballs and human brain to evaluate.

I'm sure some police instructors would have told him to not take that time, to fire instinctively to a drawing movement... and maybe he wouldn't have been wrong to fire... depends when he made the determination vs when he had his own weapon on target.

I'm guessing the second officer was covering the first one from the car?

Thanks. It is nice to have the guy in custody--might help figure out if this guy is part of a cell, militia, etc or just a whacked out loner.

On other subjects--I imagine there's going to be some second guessing re Travis Reinking, why the cops gave his dad back his guns after the FBI (I think it was the FBI) ordered them surrendered, and of course why his dad gave them back to Travis.

And I don't recall if we discussed this one--it's been 3 months, but unarmed Ricky Boyd was shot to death by police in Georgia. The police said he had a gun which turned out to be a BB gun. They showed a close up picture of it lying on the ground. However, a picture taken by a neighbor (whose house and car were hit by the hail of police bullets) shows the gun lying 45 feet away from where Boyd was shot. The police are refusing to release the body cam footage, citing ongoing investigation (what's left to investigate after 3 months) but they did release the picture of the gun. The mother has not been able to see the autopsy report. The police had come to the house to arrest Boyd for murder but a detective told the mother they knew he wasn't the murderer; however the police refuse to state this publicly, saying only that the murder case is still open. And obviously if the body cam footage exonerated the cops they would be showing it.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/ri...y-cam-released

One thing that is striking in all these cases is that the "investigations" take many months for no apparent legitimate reason. Obviously they try to stall things in the hopes that people will forget. But the delays and coverups just make the police look more guilty.

[concretejungle]

https://www.theroot.com/florida-poli...fun-1825526792

[Tryingtostaywarm]

Play dumb games, win stupid prizes. Like getting done dead. The article about trying to use his dead fingers to unlock his phone is just plain comedy. Seriously, that is one of the more funny things I have read about cops in recent times. Epic.

[Mazderati]

Suspected serial killer former police officer.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...htmlstory.html

[AdironRider]

I saw that story earlier today. What always interests me in these caught the caper decades later type things is these guys break bad for 10 years committing all these heinous crimes, then just stop and live like model citizens, in this case for 32 years. What the fuck?

[mcski]

I saw that story earlier today. What always interests me in these caught the caper decades later type things is these guys break bad for 10 years committing all these heinous crimes, then just stop and live like model citizens, in this case for 32 years. What the fuck?

Or changed MO and did other heinous stuff for recreation

Really cool that the work of Patton Oswalt's late wife was rewarded. Really nice for him and his daughter

[neufox47]

Evil people aren’t always crazy. He probably realized that he was going to get caught if he kept it up. Gave it up like others give up vices.

[Ottime]

As usual, you are out to lunch. Police can't for instance just use shotguns at kids throwing rocks.

Many departments do have training issues with how use of force tends to ratchet up. That doesn't mean they are unrestrained or unprofessional. Our military is also incredibly restrained and professional, but there are lots of things they can do (and should be able to do) that our police can't.

Also, relative to crime rates, police shoot caucasians at a higher incidence (relative to those crime rates).

Well, if they are a federal agent, and the kid is a Mexican, down hill, on the other side of a wall, they can. You can kill them if you want. Just ask any Arizona (read old, scared white people) jury.

[digitaldeath]

[mcski]

http://www.facebook.com/TheOnion/pos...56559536614497



Argh, can't get image to appear

[old goat]

I saw that story earlier today. What always interests me in these caught the caper decades later type things is these guys break bad for 10 years committing all these heinous crimes, then just stop and live like model citizens, in this case for 32 years. What the fuck?

From the sound of things he graduated from serial rape and murder to yelling at people to get off his lawn.

[SumJongGuy]

Law Enforcement Groups Gave $420,000 to DA Deciding Whether to Bring Charges Against Cops Who Killed Stephon Clark

And this is why grand juries get rigged in favor of LEO defendants. When the defendant and the DA have an established, symbiotic working relationship AND the defendant's union also funds the DA's re election bids what chance does the public have for justice against the police???

[digitaldeath]

REAL BAD

https://thefreethoughtproject.com/po...st-the-public/


Police Cadets Quit, Expose Dept. for Training Cops to View Public as ‘Cockroaches’ They’re at War With

[SumJongGuy]

Look, dude, those dollar donations are people too. Besides, the victim's family had every right to donate to the DA in order to secure a charge.

Look Dude, the victim is usually a poor minority individual with little or no financial resources for a good lawyer much less to donate a couple hundred grand to a DA known for said injustices. That's another reason this happens to black people disproportionately.. because the cops know they are less likely to have deep pockets for legal defense. It's why the poor income victim is more likely to have a criminal record as well. Heck, I know lots of other white people who were able to get out of charges that a poor person would do time for... even deferred adjudication where it never shows up on their record after serving the probation without incident.. This is how systemic racism works..

[FLS]

^ I think its time to have your meter serviced.

[Dantheman]

^ I think its time to have your meter serviced.

We need an official sarcasm font. I nominate Comic Sans, in pink.

https://www.ttbook.org/interview/how...ration-america
https://www.amazon.com/Blood-Water-A...SIN=0375423222
The Attica Prison riot is remembered as one of the bloodiest and savage of its kind, but a new history is challenging that familiar narrative. Heather Ann Thompson is a historian who’s just come out with a gripping new account of the uprising called "Blood in the Water." To write it, she spent 13 years wading through thousands of public archives and court documents, and what she uncovered is pretty damning: evidence of police negligence and torture during the prison’s retaking, and of a government cover up. She says an effort by authorities to smear the prisoners created a public backlash, which in turn laid the groundwork for tough-on-crime drug policies and an era of mass incarceration.

https://www.ttbook.org/interview/wor...e-prison-guard
https://www.motherjones.com/politics...igation-bauer/
CCA certainly seemed eager to give me a chance to join its team. Within two weeks of filling out its online application, using my real name and personal information, several CCA prisons contacted me, some multiple times. They weren’t interested in the details of my résumé. They didn’t ask about my job history, my current employment with the Foundation for National Progress, the publisher of Mother Jones, or why someone who writes about criminal justice in California would want to move across the country to work in a prison.

[SumJongGuy]

We need an official sarcasm font. I nominate Comic Sans, in pink.

Noted!

^ I think its time to have your meter serviced.

Or maybe Ghost of Racist Past hacked them?

Hahahaha!

[FLS]

Pink?... because pink is the color associated with women, and women are not to be taken seriously? Misogyny is real.

[old goat]

The problem around here is that there enough idiots spouting idiocy that it's almost impossible to be sure if someone is serious or sarcastic. Or maybe all the so-called idiots are really being sarcastic and I'm just clueless.

For the record, if I say something that sounds idiotic, I'm being sarcastic. For the record.

[digitaldeath]

#DONTRETURNTHEMONEY

fuck the police

https://www.yahoo.com/newsroom/vibes...d-8275fb1a92b4

[wyeaster]

The problem around here is that there enough idiots spouting idiocy that it's almost impossible to be sure if someone is serious or sarcastic. Or maybe all the so-called idiots are really being sarcastic and I'm just clueless.

For the record, if I say something that sounds idiotic, I'm being sarcastic. For the record.

i prefer the possible hyper-reaction due to the ambiguity