Police Behaving Badly

[old goat]

The sad thing is--if that Nazi thug of a cop gets shot and is taken to that ER he will get taken care of properly.

[neckdeep]

Interesting side note: that nurse is Alex Shaffer, Olympic ski team 1998 and 2002.

According to the morning news, the pig hasn't even been suspended pending investigation. Apparently, in the SLCPD there is something called the Blood Draw Unit. One can only guess how far down on the competence ladder a veteran cop has to be to get assigned to a duty that only involves escorting suspects to the hospital for a blood draw...and somehow he still didn't even understand the applicable law for this most simplistic of duties! I guess Birdhunter will be along soon to explain this in a light that somehow makes the cop the victim.

[jono]

I was trying to figure out how that moron managed to understand he couldn't arrest the patient but thought he could arrest the nurse. Comments under one of those videos clarified it: the patient was not a suspect. He was a victim of a head on collision with a suspect who crossed the centerline (and died) during a high speed chase. If accurate, this makes the whole episode a fishing expedition in hopes of painting the man's injuries as self-inflicted so as to avoid liability for the department. Good on Alex for standing up. Her license was on the line. Why is there no license needed to practice law enforcement?

[snoqpass]

Law and order motherfucker....
Jeff Sessions' DOJ To Put Woman Who Laughed At Jeff Sessions On Trial Yet Again - HuffPost
https://apple.news/AEvgrxfRORHexNwbc9QnsNQ

[Dantheman]

I bet he loses his job over it & goes to Unified to hang with like-minded thugs - I mean peace officers.

WVC has probably offered him a position and a pay raise already.

Ha. They're all rotten apples.

Until they start policing themselves they are all complicit.

The second vid certainly backed up this sentiment.

[irul&ublo]

I was trying to figure out how that moron managed to understand he couldn't arrest the patient but thought he could arrest the nurse. Comments under one of those videos clarified it: the patient was not a suspect. He was a victim of a head on collision with a suspect who crossed the centerline (and died) during a high speed chase. If accurate, this makes the whole episode a fishing expedition in hopes of painting the man's injuries as self-inflicted so as to avoid liability for the department. Good on Alex for standing up. Her license was on the line. Why is there no license needed to practice law enforcement?

High speed chase is the motivating factor here. Cops were scared they fucked up during the chase (the decision, or not , to engage in a high speed chase, can raise a lot of issues) and want to get evidence that makes it seem like the crash victim was at fault.

[From_the_NEK]

Looks like she's lawyered up so hopefully she sues the pants off the department and the hospital.

Why would she sue the hospital?

[Mazderati]

Sue everyone and let the courts sort it out. There are all kinds of reasons to name the hospital.

[Dantheman]

It would be insane to sue the hospital. University of Utah Police, however, who stood by and did nothing while this all went down, should be legally bitch-slapped as hard as possible.

[Mazderati]

I'm no legal jock but the small number of suits I'm vaguely familiar with started by naming every party even remotely involved. There is clearly some overlap or contract between the hospital, the hospital police, and the university. If those are all separate entities, you better believe I'm naming all three if I'm the nurse's council.

[uglymoney]

The comments on this story from some in the general public are just unbelievably ignorant. No wonder Trumpster won the election. The police and him can do no wrong and need no checks on their power apparently.

[jackattack]

I can't believe it's been over a month since she was assaulted by that asshole cop, and he's just now being placed on leave. A bunch of hot air from the politicians, business as usual. Sheesh, not even an educated white lady can get fair treatment in this country! I can't imagine what it must be like to be a low-income minority. Fuck the police.

[digitaldeath]

Zomg. Fuggin cops

[Dantheman]

I can't imagine what it must be like to be a low-income minority.

Just watch The Wire and you'll get a pretty good idea.

[jackattack]

Just watch The Wire and you'll get a pretty good idea.

Yeah, I've seen The Wire many times. It does a reasonbly good job of dramatizing the societal and public health issues surrounding urban drug culture. I also lived on the fringe of North Philly while my wife was in grad school, so I've been in "the ghetto." I don't think watching a TV series is capable of conveying the fear these people live with day to day.

[old goat]

Yeah, I've seen The Wire many times. It does a reasonbly good job of dramatizing the societal and public health issues surrounding urban drug culture. I also lived on the fringe of North Philly while my wife was in grad school, so I've been in "the ghetto." I don't think watching a TV series is capable of conveying the fear these people live with day to day.

Given the number of stories that have been published in recent decades about the individual and systemic mistreatment of black people one would have to be brain dead and heartless not to have a pretty good understanding of what life is like for black person. As far as how black people feel about the cops, imagine how you feel when you drive 20 over past a cop with a radar gun. Now multiply by 1000. But you don't have to feel the same feelings to understand the problem. Imagine a guy on the side of a cliff, stuck, unable to go up or down. You may not have the same visceral fear in the pit of your stomach but you have a very good idea of what will happen to him if help doesn't arrive soon. We don't need to flagellate ourselves; we need to support things like better funding for poor schools, better housing, good public transportation, universal quality health care and vote for people who will enact those things.

[Dantheman]

Yeah, I've seen The Wire many times. It does a reasonbly good job of dramatizing the societal and public health issues surrounding urban drug culture. I also lived on the fringe of North Philly while my wife was in grad school, so I've been in "the ghetto." I don't think watching a TV series is capable of conveying the fear these people live with day to day.

I guess I don't understand your comment then. You can "imagine" what it's like pretty well and better than most. Maybe "imagine" was just a poor choice of words. In my experience, most middle-class white people don't have the slightest clue, hence why they reject the idea that things like systemic racism in the justice system and the realities of institutional poverty even exist.

[digitaldeath]

I guess I don't understand your comment then. You can "imagine" what it's like pretty well and better than most. Maybe "imagine" was just a poor choice of words. In my experience, most middle-class white people don't have the slightest clue, hence why they reject the idea that things like systemic racism in the justice system and the realities of institutional poverty even exist.

most people so bubbled up they dont even come into contact with minorities, and if they do its some bum at a freeway offramp

[jackattack]

Point being that I feel my imagination is inadequate to approximate the feelings of a minority -- particularly blacks -- in relation to "law and order" in this country. I know and understand the breadth of coverage this subject has received over the past 50 years, but I don't think reading about those injustices or watching a TV drama comes close to allowing me to understand their experiences. Intellectually, I understand systematic and institutional racism. I want to help, to do what I can, to alleviate their position, but I don't think I'm out of line in saying that I can't imagine what it must be like to be a low-income minority in the USA.

I think the old goat is getting somewhere with the cliff metaphor, but in reference to the speeding comment: I routinely exceeded the speed limit by 20mph in the Philadelphia area, because most surface roads were 25mph, but traffic was 35-45+mph. I never once thought twice about passing a cop at those speeds, because I was confident that I would not be pulled over or detained. My assumptions were that either they had more important things to do than enforce traffic codes, or that they didn't need an excuse to pull me over to search my vehicle. Every traffic stop I ever saw in the area, included multiple officers and a complete search of the offender's vehicle. The offender was always black.

[old goat]

Point being that I feel my imagination is inadequate to approximate the feelings of a minority -- particularly blacks -- in relation to "law and order" in this country. I know and understand the breadth of coverage this subject has received over the past 50 years, but I don't think reading about those injustices or watching a TV drama comes close to allowing me to understand their experiences. Intellectually, I understand systematic and institutional racism. I want to help, to do what I can, to alleviate their position, but I don't think I'm out of line in saying that I can't imagine what it must be like to be a low-income minority in the USA.

I think the old goat is getting somewhere with the cliff metaphor, but in reference to the speeding comment: I routinely exceeded the speed limit by 20mph in the Philadelphia area, because most surface roads were 25mph, but traffic was 35-45+mph. I never once thought twice about passing a cop at those speeds, because I was confident that I would not be pulled over or detained. My assumptions were that either they had more important things to do than enforce traffic codes, or that they didn't need an excuse to pull me over to search my vehicle. Every traffic stop I ever saw in the area, included multiple officers and a complete search of the offender's vehicle. The offender was always black.

You're a human being. If you have read and watch about racism in this country and believe what you read and see you can, as a human being, understand what it would feel like to be subjected to it. Problem, is a lot of people don't read or watch or refuse to believe what they see and hear.

Alright--let's put you in a burner-mobile in Nevada doing 25 over with your rear plate covered by bikes. Your white skin won't help you now.

[frorider]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.3f9b43ec0788

[Harry]

Shots fired in a crowd, hundreds flee the scene. Cops focus in on one guy, the only black dude around. Violently arrest him, including the profanity that cops all seem to use these days ("I will blow your fucking head off if you move !").

Turns out the random black dude is NFL player Michael Bennett. He has a lawyer, and is suing the cops.

Read his account of the incident:

[jackattack]

I hope he gets a fat settlement so that he can support his family after his contract is up and the NFL owners blackball him for sitting during the national anthem.

[FLS]

Sorry if a repost... This story has been getting some traction, unfortunately the cops wont feel the sting of someone with money and power...

‘I told him I can’t breathe’: Police punch teen girl after mistaking her for black male suspect
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/07/12/i-told-him-i-cant-breathe-police-punch-teen-girl-after-mistaking-her-for-black-male-suspect/?utm_term=.15cc708e7512



On the day police stopped Hargrove, officers had been looking for a suspect — described as a 25- to 30-year-old, bald black man standing 5-foot-10 and weighing about 170 pounds — who had threatened several people with a machete at a nearby grocery store, according to a police report.
“She appeared to be a male and matched the description of the suspect that had brandished the machete and was also within the same complex the suspect had fled to,” Christopher Moore, the arresting officer, wrote in his report.
But Hargrove is none of those things.
For starters, she is female. She stands 5-foot-2 and weighs 115 pounds “soaking wet,” according to her father in a widely shared video of Hargrove’s account of the incident posted on the Facebook page for the Bakersfield chapter of the NAACP.

[peck257]

Cops shoot dog in his own back yard.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.orlan...story,amp.html