What's Blizzard up to?

[phatty]

I skied my first day on the 192 Cochise 106 and I’m happy about it. I think these things are going to treat me well.

5” of new snow at bachelor - limited lift ops, no steeps, pow groomers… not enough skiing to give a full review but it seems like they took a lot from the OG 193 (which I was a huge fan of) and put it in a slightly more casual package.

I sold my LP105s and Corvus - I was looking for a single ski to take the 108 DD spot in my quiver - deciding between this ski and the katana…. I think I chose right.

The ski deserves more love than it’s getting on TGR… I’m sure it’s just getting out-marketed by the MF108 & K108 lovefest…

The R11/R9 fanboys looking for an R10 with some balls, this ski might be it…


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Interesting. How would you compare it to the LP105? Does it have any playfulness or is it mostly a charger? While I enjoy my MFree, I'm always intrigued. We're spoiled with solid options in that category right now.

[nickwm21]

Interesting. How would you compare it to the LP105? Does it have any playfulness or is it mostly a charger? While I enjoy my MFree, I'm always intrigued. We're spoiled with solid options in that category right now.

It’s a charger - I’d call it an “approachable” charger. I wouldn’t call them playful…

They are a lot lighter than the LP105. Way more maneuverable. Kinda apples/oranges… I need more time on them.


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[skibrd]

Two heel mounts in line might make some sense. Skis do break, sometimes, and the fewer holes the better.

Glad that blizzard treated you right. Just bought a pair of r9, excited to get em out.

Agreed. Got my R9s out this past weekend. They still rip and if Blizzard had rejected my warranty, I would of gotten another pair. I would of even paid full retail if I had to, they are that good.


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[DarthMarkus]

I skied my first day on the 192 Cochise 106 and I’m happy about it. I think these things are going to treat me well.

5” of new snow at bachelor - limited lift ops, no steeps, pow groomers… not enough skiing to give a full review but it seems like they took a lot from the OG 193 (which I was a huge fan of) and put it in a slightly more casual package.

I sold my LP105s and Corvus - I was looking for a single ski to take the 108 DD spot in my quiver - deciding between this ski and the katana…. I think I chose right.

The ski deserves more love than it’s getting on TGR… I’m sure it’s just getting out-marketed by the MF108 & K108 lovefest…

The R11/R9 fanboys looking for an R10 with some balls, this ski might be it…


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Glad to hear this ski is getting some attention. I think its release was premature and didn't get some spotlight it needed. Still tempting for me, but I feel it would have too much overlap with the m-free 108.

[Eluder]

Glad to hear this ski is getting some attention. I think its release was premature and didn't get some spotlight it needed. Still tempting for me, but I feel it would have too much overlap with the m-free 108.

No way, totally different shapes and flavors. You need both.

For me its the best cochise yet.

[counterfeitfake]

This is good to hear, I've been devoted to the Cochise since I bought a pair in 2013, but I haven't been on any newer than the 2016 blue/black ones. I'm still using the 2013s as a rock ski but they really should be retired. My 2016s are also beat, and I have another pair of the 2013 I got used that is in great shape but are 192 cm which is a little long at times.

What is the profile like on the new ones, does anyone have a picture?

[undertow2]

This is good to hear, I've been devoted to the Cochise since I bought a pair in 2013, but I haven't been on any newer than the 2016 blue/black ones. I'm still using the 2013s as a rock ski but they really should be retired. My 2016s are also beat, and I have another pair of the 2013 I got used that is in great shape but are 192 cm which is a little long at times.

What is the profile like on the new ones, does anyone have a picture?

Not perfect but this should give a good idea as to their profile…

As a side note I have the 106 and a buddy of mine rode mine and bought a pair…. He ended up having an unexpected surgery over the summer and does not feel he will be up to riding this ski…. With that said he is looking to move these fresh never been mounted 106s and looking to get $475 shipped US…



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[counterfeitfake]

Wow is that flat!

What length?

[undertow2]

That is flat - never been mounted…


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[zion zig zag]

That is flat - never been mounted…


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I’m also interested. What length?


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[undertow2]

Sorry guys my bad as I did not realize they came in diff lengths - they are 192s…


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[sf]

I posted this over in the groomer ski thread.

I really like that Blizzard add the bevels to the specs, but what is up with a +/- 1,5 degree room for variation?

Is this "industry standard"?

Does this mean that most of us won't notice the difference?

Or that Blizzard for some reason states more variation than what's realistic? Bell curve and all that

[XavierD]

[mr_pretzel]

Hyppeeee

[gregL]

I posted this over in the groomer ski thread.

I really like that Blizzard add the bevels to the specs, but what is up with a +/- 1,5 degree room for variation?

Is this "industry standard"?

Does this mean that most of us won't notice the difference?

Or that Blizzard for some reason states more variation than what's realistic? Bell curve and all that

Even the best machines have a tolerance of +/- .2 degrees when perfectly adjusted. Side edge bevel seems to vary depending on the width of the ski with Blizzard, with carver models under 100mm closer to 3 degrees and wider models closer to 1, but they stated spec in the literature is the same for pretty much all skis but race models.

[HAB]

What are we looking at?

[kc_7777]

What are we looking at?

Pink Rustler 11s?

[sf]

Even the best machines have a tolerance of +/- .2 degrees when perfectly adjusted. Side edge bevel seems to vary depending on the width of the ski with Blizzard, with carver models under 100mm closer to 3 degrees and wider models closer to 1, but they stated spec in the literature is the same for pretty much all skis but race models.

Ok, thanks

Weird that they add the information, when it at best it useless information.

Oh well, nevermind

[slashy]

Blizzard made a Corvus ?

[XavierD]

Pink Rustler 11s?

Not quite. Rustler 11s will still be sporting some orange.



Also:

[jacob_dbu]

Not quite. Rustler 11s will still be sporting some orange.



Also:

I’m real excited to see this boot.

[WhetherMan]

I’m real excited to see this boot.

Yeah, this feels like it's going to lighten my wallet. Please fit like a zero g.

[Qilimanjaro]

Pure speculation, but it's gonna be Rustler 11 Tour. ZG108 is gone, and Rustler seems to be wildly popular.

Also some wishful thinking here, as 188 is kinda long for me and 180 is kinda short. I would go for 180 in tour layup in a heartbeat.

[Gweilo]

Not quite. Rustler 11s will still be sporting some orange.



Also:

Looks like the boot will be geared toward ultra light ski mountaineering with a boa like system but I am quite curious about the way they are going to make the next R11 better than the current one…


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[Lord Thomas]

Uhhh, we need more pics of that boot