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Thread: Home Remodel: Do, Don'ts, Advice

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    Tried tgat, hasn't been reliable so far. What I could find is that the boxes (ballasts?) on each can are not compatible with dimmable LED. There's no way I really want to rip those out because they are not easily accessible. So is there going to be a conversion kit that will even do what I want? I see kits, online but have no clue.

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    Home Remodel: Do, Don'ts, Advice

    Home Depot sells these “inserts”

    https://www.homedepot.com/p/Commerci...-259/314018779

    The Commercial Electric 5/6 in. Color temperature select LED downlight is an easy way to upgrade your existing can lights to the sleek look of recessed lighting and LED energy efficient technology. These LED downlights are compatible with most dimmer switches and are equipped with a unique color temperature (CCT) changing technology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riser4 View Post
    Tried tgat, hasn't been reliable so far. What I could find is that the boxes (ballasts?) on each can are not compatible with dimmable LED. There's no way I really want to rip those out because they are not easily accessible. So is there going to be a conversion kit that will even do what I want? I see kits, online but have no clue.
    If you can get the old fixture and ballast out and just pop in a modern LED can it will work.

    You “should” be able to dissect the old housing, pull it out and yank out the old ballast without cutting drywall. Seems possible.


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    That was my first instinct. However, it really looks like I'd make a huge mess of the drywall ceiling or have to cut a lot of metal. The hole in the ceiling appears smaller than the diameter of the can as the end of it is above the level of the ceiling. They are in a drywalled feature running around the outside of the kitchen that is lower than the actual ceiling. Im pretty sure they installed these things first from the side, and then cut the holes from below, sealed up the "box" around them. I cant upload a picture. Im not at all willing to try and cut metal in a narrow opening above my face. The HD retrofit kits are probably my best bet.

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    Well yeah Riser, that's how it is done. Goggle "new construction recessed lights" and you'll see that the cans are suspended on 2 bars between the framing.

    This video does a decent job of showing what you are most likely dealing with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgA35NoPS88

    Short story: kill the breaker, take you the bulb, pull down on the trim ring, defeat the springs, find the tabs that hold the baffle to the socket, defeat that.

    Now you should know what you got and can purchase a retro kit that looks like it works.

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    Yeah, those LEDs are pretty nice. I have a few samples laying around. I've been trying to figure out how to replace some track lighting in my kitchen in them for a while. Not sure if I ever will though because we have other challenges. But if I could, those put out much better light than the old bulbs. Offer more adjustability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlh View Post
    You should be able to get there with dimmable bulbs and a led rated dimmer switch but might have to do some trial and error for a combo that works.
    Indeed. The led dimming industry is still not fully mature. The Lutron dimmers i have in my own home fail after a couple of years. Clients have not complained, though, so maybe i just got a couple of lemons.

    I'm my bus, the 12v PWM dimmers i found on aliexpress have been perfect. Nice smooth dimming with no flicker in the puck or strips.
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    I have some fairly old standard dimmer switches in my house. I tried some higher end bulbs and they all flickered or made noise. Having pretty good luck ironically with Walmart brand. They haven't flickered or made noise and are a warm light which I like instead of blue.

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    I was in the hardware store the other day and had some sticker shock looking at led dimmers and gfci plugs. That shit adds up fast as I looked longingly at the 3prong discount plugs lol

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    Last time I had an HVAC tech out they noticed I was using the stock washable slash resuable air filter and mentioned I should just use a cheap disposable filter, so I've been doing that lately. Now that I'm buying disposable filters I see theres super thick filters so Im wondering if theres any benifit to ditching the electro static and casstte filters as well? (yes I know that sounds dumb)

    EDIT I edited the aspostrophies out and it is still a mess sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by climberevan View Post
    Indeed. The led dimming industry is still not fully mature. The Lutron dimmers i have in my own home fail after a couple of years. Clients have not complained, though, so maybe i just got a couple of lemons.

    I'm my bus, the 12v PWM dimmers i found on aliexpress have been perfect. Nice smooth dimming with no flicker in the puck or strips.
    Lutron has a bulb compatibility tool, but it sucks ass to use (makes the TGR search function look pro) and there's no way they can keep up with the proliferation of new models/brands in the LED bulb space:
    https://intl.lutron.com/en-US/Pages/...atibility.aspx

    Still, might find something there. Some dimmers are better than others, some bulbs are better than others. Some combos just don't like each other.

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