OFFICIAL I70 BITCH THREAD....

[skaredshtles]

Because it's more fun annoying the Summit/Eagle/Grand county folks, LDO.

That and the sno^H^H^Hrain sucks out there.

[cmsummit]

Love thy Gaper, shun thy Franger.

[skaredshtles]

Love thy Gaper, shun thy Franger.

I mean, I totally understand why. We FRDB's tend to ski The Goods, while the gapers just show up with gobs of money and stick to the blues. Amirite?

[cmsummit]

I mean, I totally understand why. We FRDB's tend to ski The Goods, while the gapers just show up with gobs of money and stick to the blues. Amirite?

That's pretty spot on.

[suburbs]

I mean, I totally understand why. We FRDB's tend to ski The Goods, while the gapers just show up with gobs of money and stick to the blues. Amirite?

Tourists = Contribute
Front Rangers = Subtract

[Rideski]

Businesses and residents of the mountain communities are not always killing it. Over the last 25 years, the cost of living (housing and health insurance) as out paced wage growth.

Until you factor in your astronomical property value increase.

[Telemarketeer]

Maybe you Frangers should try to carpool more often.

[Telemarketeer]

It isn’t the amount of people that is the problem. Ski areas aren’t really that crowded on the slopes and even if they were it wouldn’t be that big of a deal. It is the amount of cars that is causing the problems. Traffic and parking.

So yeah, monorail.

[SkiBall]

I think if you look towards California (Bay + Tahoe) as an indicator... I think you'll see that people will tolerate WAY worse than we currently have here on the Front Range.

Ultimately, it's all relative, I guess. But you're right in your original assertion: we're *ALL* part of the problem... regardless of our situation of how long we have been here.

We used to drive to ski from the Bay on weekdays. Leave at 4am, get home around 8p and ski bell to bell. 4 hr drives were just what it was. Guess knowing you were driving more miles made it justifiable.
Friend left here back to FR on Sunday at 445p (found out after the fact)...home at 1030. jfc

[Foggy_Goggles]

Until you factor in your astronomical property value increase.

Is this new math? Care to explain how property value increases either reduce the cost of living or increase wages. It's nice party talk for those that own homes but that's about it. The increase in property values, which is probably on par with metro Denver, actually increases the cost of living for most.

I'm not trying to put words in your mouth but the attitude that people that live in the mountains should be thankful that the front rangers second home demand increases property values is weird at best. Sure, realtors and spec home builder are firmly latched onto that tit but it does very little for the rest of us.

[Hott Butt Mud]

Yea you would think people would choose to go see a movie, or keep skiing until 4 then go to apres and get some dinner... but they choose to sit in their cars inching along for hours. Is there some business opportunity here to open some other apres activity business that people would come to?

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Interesting question... here's a different take. Is there a business opportunity to target the tunnel trash while they are sitting in there cars for 3+ hours on I-70?

How about a proximity app called "stuck on I-70"? You can chat with other people about how the day was, send nudes, etc.

Or someone can do a live podcast and people can call in and bitch and complain, in real-time, about I-70 traffic. You could sell ads for that.

[fastfred]

did a couple laps around breck this morning
then a nice lap around the summit hitting every town
did 50 over swany 60 into keystone
nailed every light perfectly through silverthorne
found a spot right in front of whole foods for some milf watching
then drove over to vail at a reasonable speed while listening to the mexican hitchhiker I picked up tell racist jokes
not sure what the problem is

oh it's tuesday

[Rideski]

Well it seems like more than party talk. You own property that's appreciating by leaps and bounds, seems it should make the growing cost of living more palatable?

[Name Redacted]

Well it seems like more than party talk. You own property that's appreciating by leaps and bounds, seems it should make the growing cost of living more palatable?

You are missing a couple key factors here. A) Denver has appreciated just as much as the mountains, if not more. B) our house has gained value, but so have all the other houses in the area, so if we sell then stay here and buy, then we don't get ahead at all. I can't buy a 2 br condo now for what I paid for my house.

[Flyoverland Captive]

Interesting question... here's a different take. Is there a business opportunity to target the tunnel trash while they are sitting in there cars for 3+ hours on I-70?

Import a horde of young Filipino boys to bang on windows selling single cigarettes (wait... make that joints). Profit!

[summit]

Well it seems like more than party talk. You own property that's appreciating by leaps and bounds, seems it should make the growing cost of living more palatable?

How do you figure?

I can't sell part of my house. For the increased value to be of use, I have to sell my house and move somewhere that had proportionally lower rates of appreciation AND lower starting values. So hooray if I want to move to some small town in the midwest?

All increased property value means to me as a local owner is higher property taxes.

To local non-owners, it means higher rent and harder entry to ownership.

[concretejungle]

Well it seems like more than party talk. You own property that's appreciating by leaps and bounds, seems it should make the growing cost of living more palatable?

Why?

[adrenalated]

I too am dying to know how my house being worth more helps me pay for the essentials (you know, groceries, gas, healthcare, beer, and hookers)

[skaredshtles]

I too am dying to know how my house being worth more helps me pay for the essentials (you know, groceries, gas, healthcare, beer, and hookers)

Fucking HELOC, n00B. Cash out, buy a boat... get a whole bunch of hookers and blow. It's the American Dream, baby...

[skaredshtles]

We used to drive to ski from the Bay on weekdays. Leave at 4am, get home around 8p and ski bell to bell. 4 hr drives were just what it was.

Have you visited the Tahoe thread recently? I think things may have changed (much like CO).

[KyleLanTheman]

The only way to mitigate this situation is to make Colorado a whole lot less attractive so people start moving out. This is a capacity issue, plain and simple. I say start voting red, seems to work for utah.

[mdblows]

I agree with this - I've got tons of family that live in the Midwest where people are moving out of (Cleveland, Akron, Youngstown). Let's make Colorado more like the rust belt!

[goldenboy]

Fucking HELOC, n00B. Cash out, buy a boat... get a whole bunch of hookers and blow. It's the American Dream, baby...

Hey, it worked in '06. The party is back

[MiddleOfNight]

In the midst of Monday AM's storm there was a car fire IN the tunnel EB. Loveland Pass was closed. Glad I had a book.

Then the power in the tunnel went out - closed again.

This gripe not really population volume or ski traffic related. Once random incident can sure snarl things up.

Not gonna get fewer people in CO, is too nice of a place.
Could they do the monorail or widen the road through to Summit, with that tunnel there?? Will it forever be a choke point?



On the plus side, that little arm on lookers left of the stop light post is a siren .. like a tsunami horn that's super loud and kinda neat.

[wkd-rdr]

I say start voting red, seems to work for utah.

Dont Provo my Avon