Fly Fishing Forum?

[neckdeep]

I have to agree with schewrty...this place is great. A lot of fly fish forums are filled with smug fart sniffing dildos. Here questions are answered from knowledgable sources and without the attitudes I've received on other fly fishing forums

Probably because we have other interests outside of flyfishing. Those flyfishing sites tend to attract two types that always want to piss in the soup. Unhappy, wanna-be guides with a big chip on their shoulder and the holier-than-thou anglers who are sort of misanthropic at their core. TGR appeals to the multifaceted outdoorsman (he says, rolling eyes and snickering to self).

[plugboots]

This:

Probably because we have other interests outside of flyfishing.

I read thedrake all the time, but going through the whole intro process, etc. seems silly. Besides, my pictures suck, so I wouldn't be able to contribute much. This is prolly as good a place as there is, and you will not get a better answer than what gretch just posted up. The WA fly fishing forum is beyond stupid for example. I check it out for laughs. The posters will visit my area and post that the fishing sucks right when it's perfect to ski or mtn bike. They also fish while packing handguns. Yup.
When I lived in the bay area I used this place: http://www.fishfirst.com/ They set up my first tungsten shooting head for surf perch, and they didn't think I was too crazy for fishing Putah Creek all the time.
I personally like a 9' X 6wt for the first rod, because if you like the sport, a 4wt. will compliment it better for small dries, etc. and the 6 makes a great small saltwater rod.

[that dude who did that thing]

You've gotten solid advice here, that can only be improved on if you tell us more about where you will fish, which you might not even know, yet.

[gretch6364]

I personally like a 9' X 6wt for the first rod, because if you like the sport, a 4wt. will compliment it better for small dries, etc. and the 6 makes a great small saltwater rod.

Great point. I didn't think of that being land locked and all. If you can find a 6wt with a soft tip and stiff butt, that might be the way to go. Then you could use it for some salt or small steelhead. Has anyone cast the Redington Vapen? I heard it is super fast, but wondering about the tip. I am not a fan of the tip on the BVK 6wt.

I started with a 4wt and have a 6wt, and do agree that they work together well.

[gretch6364]

Couldn't go wrong with some these:

http://denver.en.craigslist.org/spo/4251820637.html


21 Used Scott Rods for sale...all around $200.

[plugboots]

I started with a 4wt and have a 6wt, and do agree that they work together well.

After my early forays with an 8 wt. Wonderod, (from the hardware store), then a cheap start-up green mountain Orvis 4 wt. outfit, I did the opposite and bought a 6wt. Loomis GL3 when I started back in the sport, then eventually got a 4 wt.

For a beginner rod, I think the 6 still makes sense. The less expensive rods mostly have that action you describe. BUT, my wife just got a 5wt. Sage 1 for a gift, and you can throw that "get a 6 wt." advice right out the window.

[BS720]

^^But would you take that 5wt One out for surf perch? There's a ton of fun fishing right in SF. Unfortunately, trout isn't included(unless you count striper). If I moved here tomorrow without any fishing gear, I'd buy a 6wt 9', then an 8wt 9', then a 4wt trout rod whenever I got around to it. I love to use my 3wt Hardy glass rod. It just wasn't a practical purchase for this area. I have a high dollar 8wt that is getting used regularly, and a cheap 6wt that lives in the car for quick fixes. I can get off work at 01:30 and throw some flies near a pier for thirty minutes before going home. SF has lots of fishing opportunities. With the Bay Bridge and East Bay between us and the closest trout stream, getting to PC is pretty much a full day.

Couldn't go wrong with some these:

http://denver.en.craigslist.org/spo/4251820637.html


21 Used Scott Rods for sale...all around $200.

I could have gone to work without seeing that. T2H 6wt? Damn.

[gretch6364]

I could have gone to work without seeing that. T2H 6wt? Damn.

I wish I would of seen his ad the first day he posted it! I called and emailed him, hopefully he gets back to me on what he still has. I would love to pick up the X2S 7wt or the 8wt S4.

Something for caribbean bones...too bad they are not S4s's. I think that 7wt would be great for a streamer rod and carp rod, and for small bones and redfish. If he still has it, I am gonna pull the trigger. Killer prices.

[Underoos]

Those flyfishing sites tend to attract two types that always want to piss in the soup. Unhappy, wanna-be guides with a big chip on their shoulder and the holier-than-thou anglers who are sort of misanthropic at their core.

So which one am I? It's no secret that some of us on here are also on "those flyfishing sites", you know which one I'm talking about.

I read thedrake all the time, but going through the whole intro process, etc. seems silly. Besides, my pictures suck, so I wouldn't be able to contribute much.

You might be missing what's really going on. The intro is a novelty, it doesn't really matter in the end. If you don't get run off by all the bullshit and continue to post then it's all good. And there are plenty of guys that contribute a lot without posting photos and TRs.


What I find funny is that the Drake is exactly like TGR, but somehow the fishing forum is exempt. Surely I'm not the only one who sees this. Noobs are constantly bashed on TGR for many reasons. I don't need to cite examples, you know what I mean. The Drake is the same way. But in the TGR fishing forum things function a little differently. Noobs are coddled, snark and dickishness are looked down upon.

Why is this so?

I'm not trying to sway it one way or another, I just find it interesting.

FYI, I'm much more of an asshole over here for some reason.

[gretch6364]

You hit the nail on the head so to speak Roo. For some reason TGR's fishing forum is not like the rest of TGR. I think of the Drake's fishing forum as TGR's skiing forum. No different IMO.

I am guessing the fishing forum here is different becuase so few people post in it and a lot of us have met eachother. I have a hard time being an online asshole to guys I have met and fished with and actually like.

[skifishbum]

well that being said
yo jongs
fuck that river runs through it shit
stick with your zebco, ugly stick, and fireline
the banjo minnow and zekes extrme rainbow powergoop all ya need
did i mention i guide
and i'm only 1/2 the e-asshole i am
irl
tom bies the man but my god scores way more bitches than trask

[beer30]

Washington fly fishing forum has proven to be a good one

[snapt]

TGR has a hazing period for some but the amount of useful info, help, and downright good people here who offer the shirts off their backs to newbs is pretty incredible. I've benefitted and tried to give back.

I enjoy parts the Drakeboard, and understand what it tries to be, but most folks I've met there try to disown their e-drakian persona, where as most mags are the same on and off line. I knew spicytuna and that dude was so different than his e cool guy frat boy persona, but wouldn't own up to it in real life and acted all ashamed. Lame. Same with some others.

I did get to drive around in Clyde recently, and got drunk with Tom last week so there be parts I like.

[skifishbum]

so youre tellin me the dude i agreed to host and pursue the powder with on his utarded vacation
is neither cool or joined a frat?
sweet jeebus at least tell me his slowboarder ass can hang
just checked i'm a .03 percenter
some day when i'm a 1%er
i'm gonna do an intro
the smurf turf permit pizza dude reminds me of
the roj

[plugboots]

^^But would you take that 5wt One out for surf perch?

Sure. Ya it's pricey and all, but I use my 6wt. Crosscurrent now. I use my stuff, no matter what it is, that's why I buy it. Reading this makes me miss fishing the surf.

You might be missing what's really going on.

I don't think so. I know I could post up a enough decent pics, a DSFK, homegrown naked redhead, a watch, etc. and get a pass, but after that I'm not sure what I'd get. I'd feel weird flying to wherever and asking someone for a float or flats trip. I know there's other reasons but you get my drift, (pun). Maybe...Right now it's enough to read the intros and some of the TRs.

[Hugh Conway]

Why is this so?

volume. the flyfishing forum here is tiny in active membership.


back to OP - unless qualities really improved, don't go for cheap reals. A battenkill-ish or better will last you orders of magnitude longer/absorb many more bumps and bruises. a 6wt is way to big for sierra trout, so's a 5wt. So get the 6.

[Underoos]

downright good people here who offer the shirts off their backs to newbs is pretty incredible. I've benefitted and tried to give back.

Again, same thing over there. Lots of good going on. BTW, you never answered my question about who you met on the Dean.

I'd feel weird flying to wherever and asking someone for a float or flats trip.

Yeah, that's a weird thing. There's sort of a weeding out process. If you last long enough, you meet people and if you're a total asshole or shitshow then the word will get out. And it's a trade off, hopefully. You take dudes out, you get taken out. Guys put out a public notice or send a PM asking to fish, and if it's been established that they're not a total fuckhead I'm happy to oblige if I can accomodate. I've been extremely fortunate on the receiving end as well. Most of the salt shit that I post is from internet pen pals taking me fishing. Pretty cool that I can have a fishing pal almost anywhere I travel.

volume.

Yep. Valid point.

[snapt]

Fitzy. Nice dude, fun group he was with. Funny as shit how he introduced himself.

[cmeriptahoe]

a 6wt is way to big for sierra trout, so's a 5wt. So get the 6.

Valuable advice from Hugh.

[plugboots]

I thought about this some more. thedrake is like the padded room with TRs. There's no tech talk, (or need really), so contributing first is not the operating procedure.

So cmeriptahoe, if that really is your name, buy a 4 wt.?

[Rubercy]

wonderful experience

[NMmatt]

My humble $.02…

Get a decent setup (great advice already posted) and focus on learning to cast properly. This way you won't develop bad habits right from the start. A lesson or two is probably the best place to invest. Practice knots. Then forget all the other crap and go fishing! Get the hell away from everyone, stumble up canyons no one in their right mind would ever go in, tie on flies that look like hell, and figure it out yourself. To me, that's the fun of fly fishing, and being observant will let the fish teach you the rest.

[skifishbum]

Drove by divide/wisdom yesterday reminded me
the lowlight of my summer was the toasted head gasket leadin to not makin the maggots fish summit
One of the highlights was hookin up w/ telee, hook, and his crew for some good floats
if there's a salt reciprical stoked if not still stoked
hope to fish ya fools once the snow melts
be it at a summit or bake

[schwerty]

After skiing this storm snow we are getting I would do just about anything to get in the salt or even sit at a beach bar and suck down cold beers.

[steved]

Also...try to find something online that's local to CA, being you're in SF...as in SanFrancisco...y/n? You can get a feel to what in-staters fish for and where to go...both fresh and saltwater. You must have some shops closeby(= very nice!!) that will help you out with any casting issues....in the flesh, not just talking online...along with being able to stop in and get some tips where certain fish are and what their meals consist of,,,

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