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    Quote Originally Posted by DJSapp View Post
    Hmmm... this seems relevant. Texas had the same problem in 2011. Same root cause, power generation wasn't able to perform in cold weather.

    https://www.ferc.gov/sites/default/f...-11-report.pdf
    "Well, we don't believe in global warming, but global warming means that won't happen again, so no reason to implement those winterization recommendations."

    Oh, wait....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    I don't know Cohen, but overall this is relatively basic climatology. "Global" warming occurs disproportionately at the the poles. The weakened temperature gradient between the tropics and the poles destabilizes the polar vortex and makes detachment of the vortex and excursions into mid-latitude regions more likely. Predicting when and where those detachments will happen is exceedingly difficult (i.e., weather vs. climate), but the increasing probability of occurrence as the planet warms is not controversial in climate science.
    Right, the debate about Cohen is that he keeps claiming that he can predict the detachments of the vortex based on like, Eurasian snow cover as an indicator or something like that. But yeah, what you stated was pretty much what I heard him say this morning. I've been reading his blog for a while now and was surprised to hear him on the radio!
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    I hear the Texas outages are a hoax. The people on the news are all crisis actors!
    Remind me. We'll send him a red cap and a Speedo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danmelon View Post
    Right, the debate about Cohen is that he keeps claiming that he can predict the detachments of the vortex based on like, Eurasian snow cover as an indicator or something like that.
    Ah, that makes sense.

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    Nope, it’s the work of Antifa and the ultra elites. We’re not free anymore. Anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The AD View Post
    I haven't seen any evidence that cold snaps happen any more frequently due to climate change. In fact I think the evidence points to less extremely cold weather overall.
    What evidence? All the evidence is so sketchy. Ok, this broke records about a century old. So, fine, was there climate change then? I don't think so. Or, maybe there was. How would you know? Who was keeping records a century before that? Oh, wait, nobody, right? Because nobody lived there. How about a century before? Wow, practically ancient history. But, it wasn't. It was just about 300 years ago. That ain't squat in weather time, right? As though somebody was keeping score. The thermometer was invented in 1709. Before that, who knows?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    What evidence? All the evidence is so sketchy. Ok, this broke records about a century old. So, fine, was there climate change then? I don't think so. Or, maybe there was. How would you know? Who was keeping records a century before that? Oh, wait, nobody, right? Because nobody lived there. How about a century before? Wow, practically ancient history. But, it wasn't. It was just about 300 years ago. That ain't squat in weather time, right? As though somebody was keeping score. The thermometer was invented in 1709. Before that, who knows?
    https://www.theguardian.com/environm...rature-proxies

    we have a pretty good idea.
    swing your fucking sword.

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    No, it's not really a "pretty good idea" if you're speculating on ice core and, God forbid, tree ring data. I mean, really, prove that shit. You can't.

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    How old do you think the earth is Benny? Absolute age, or age compared to you would work too.

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    Now that you can date, sort of. Pretty fucking old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJSapp View Post
    Hmmm... this seems relevant. Texas had the same problem in 2011. Same root cause, power generation wasn't able to perform in cold weather.

    https://www.ferc.gov/sites/default/f...-11-report.pdf
    Also '99 I believe.

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    Still snowing here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    What evidence? All the evidence is so sketchy. Ok, this broke records about a century old. So, fine, was there climate change then? I don't think so. Or, maybe there was. How would you know? Who was keeping records a century before that? Oh, wait, nobody, right? Because nobody lived there. How about a century before? Wow, practically ancient history. But, it wasn't. It was just about 300 years ago. That ain't squat in weather time, right? As though somebody was keeping score. The thermometer was invented in 1709. Before that, who knows?
    FFS, Benny, just a few posts up it's explained how this is a perfectly predictable climatic response to GW, nor does that explanation require paleo climate proxy data.

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    "Perfectly predictable" assumes that climate scientists have achieved something no human has ever achieved. Predicting the future. My point is, they really didn't even know the past that well.

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    Local weather blogger Cliff Mass is always quick to jump on these stories when the media jumps on the "it's because of climate change!" for any weather event--hot or cold, and I tend to agree with him on that point: https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2021/...by-global.html These kinds of assertions need to be backed by real data otherwise it just gives the deniers more ammunition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The AD View Post
    Local weather blogger Cliff Mass is always quick to jump on these stories when the media jumps on the "it's because of climate change!" for any weather event--hot or cold, and I tend to agree with him on that point: https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2021/...by-global.html These kinds of assertions need to be backed by real data otherwise it just gives the deniers more ammunition.
    Forkin Cliff Mass can shove it! 2 weeks ago he said "it's unlikely at this point in the year that we will see lowland snow."

    Well guess what Cliff? I've got 2 feet of snow on the ground and it's still coming down.

    Get bit!
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    Arctic Amplification. (Positive feedback loops). But it’s kind of difficult to collect data there.
    https://news.yale.edu/2021/02/12/sci...-amplification

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    No, it's not really a "pretty good idea" if you're speculating on ice core and, God forbid, tree ring data. I mean, really, prove that shit. You can't.
    Holy-o fuck dude. I used to think you were a little misguided occasionally. But statements like this make you sound like a flat earth whackjob. There's this thing called geology heard of it? Glaciology?

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    Quote Originally Posted by garyfromterrace View Post
    Holy-o fuck dude. I used to think you were a little misguided occasionally. But statements like this make you sound like a flat earth whackjob. There's this thing called geology heard of it? Glaciology?
    For some the slide into senility gets steeper as time passes. But the anger at the world increases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KQ View Post
    Forkin Cliff Mass can shove it! 2 weeks ago he said "it's unlikely at this point in the year that we will see lowland snow."
    Actually what he said was "Running Out of Time For Lowland Snow West of the Cascade Crest" since we rarely get it after March 1st and it should be noted that you definitely aren't west of the Cascades.

    Honestly he seems like a bit of an asshole, but I do think he knows a lot about weather and what he does say about weather is based on data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    "Perfectly predictable" assumes that climate scientists have achieved something no human has ever achieved. Predicting the future. My point is, they really didn't even know the past that well.
    Check the weather forecast Benny, they are right far more often than not. Usually only miss on really difficult storm events.

    You really want your mind blown see astronomy, where they can predict orbits of object for thousands of years into the future!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The AD View Post
    Actually what he said was "Running Out of Time For Lowland Snow West of the Cascade Crest" since we rarely get it after March 1st and it should be noted that you definitely aren't west of the Cascades.

    Honestly he seems like a bit of an asshole, but I do think he knows a lot about weather and what he does say about weather is based on data.
    Whatever. He jinxed us but good. Still snowing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The AD View Post
    These kinds of assertions need to be backed by real data otherwise it just gives the deniers more ammunition.
    There’s a huge percentage of deniers that will not be swayed by any amount of data. It’s become a religion and facts don’t matter. One could argue it’s the same on both sides but the climate change folks seem to have the preponderance of evidence on their side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flounder View Post
    There’s a huge percentage of deniers that will not be swayed by any amount of data. It’s become a religion and facts don’t matter. One could argue it’s the same on both sides but the climate change folks seem to have the preponderance of evidence on their side.
    Wouldn't it be wonderful if climate change wasn't real though. Man that would be great. I bet a lot of climate change believers would happily change their opinion if it wasn't true and humanity could just go on its merry polluting way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    Ted Cruz now vacationing in Cancun with the family. Lol.
    Political scandal aside, the guy is still rocking that mullet.

    I thought maybe the shears ran out of battery or something, but oh no, this is an intentional style choice.

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