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    Lightbulb Beyond POV: Drone Video

    Now you can buy a drone to shoot video of your radness for just 27,000chf!

    Here: http://dedicam.tv



    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-use-...s-photography/

    September 22, 2012, 10: 45 AM

    (AP) ISLAMABAD - The use of drones in Pakistan normally brings to mind images of U.S. spy planes attacking tribal areas. But drones now are being used to capture a different kind of picture in the country — showing some of the world's highest mountains being scaled by world-class climbers through some of Earth's thinnest air.

    Drones, or remote-controlled aircraft, have long been the domain of the American military and are used extensively in Pakistan's tribal areas near the Afghanistan border to spy on and target militants. Recently, however, civilians have increasingly turned to drones to shoot ground-breaking footage of adventure sports.

    This summer a Swiss expedition used remote-controlled helicopters to shoot rare footage of climbers on the Karakoram, one of the world's most demanding and formidable mountain ranges.

    "People are going to see footage from the Karakoram that no human being has ever seen," said Corey Rich, a photographer and videographer from Lake Tahoe, California, who was on the expedition.

    The expedition was a joint project between outdoor clothing and equipment company Mammut, and Dedicam, a firm that specializes in using remote-controlled helicopters to shoot video. Their goal: to document world-class mountaineer David Lama and his climbing partner Peter Ortner as they climbed Trango Tower. The sheer granite tower in the Baltoro Glacier is 19,685 feet above sea level and is one of the most technically difficult climbs in the world.

    Filmmakers long have used helicopters to capture aerial footage of climbers — as well as other extreme sport athletes like surfers and skiers -that is hard to capture from the ground. But helicopters are costly and can be dangerous if they crash or get too close to the people on the ground. Additionally, their beating rotors often kick up dust, snow and wind — and can push climbers off balance.

    Drones, which can weigh just a few pounds and cost between $1,000 and $40,000, are a fraction of the size and cost of the helicopters traditionally used in adventure photography. Newer models tend to have all of their rotors facing into the sky, making them look a bit like a mechanical flying spider or insect.

    The main concern for the summertime expedition was how — and if — the drone would perform in Pakistan's rugged conditions and high altitude.

    "The main challenge was that the air is much thinner, and we didn't know how the flight controls would work with this and the propellers and motors," said drone operator Remo Masina, from Lucerne, Switzerland. He brought two on the Pakistan expedition — one with four propellers and another with six. From the ground, he flew them with a handheld console that resembles a video game console, and wore goggles to let him see the camera's view.

    Another challenge was to find the climbers on the mountain. Tracing the planned trek route, Masina directed the drone up the mountain until he spotted them — more than a mile away.

    The result was stunning images of the Karakoram and the climbers making it to the top.

    Experienced climbers say the Karakoram puts the rest of the world's mountain ranges to shame. Neighboring Nepal has Everest, the tallest mountain in the world, but Pakistan has four of the world's 14 peaks that soar to 26,246 feet above sea level, including the second highest mountain on earth, K-2.

    Lama and Ortner said climbing the legendary Pakistan mountains was an amazing experience.
    "Here there are so many mountains, and so many difficult mountains, and mountains that haven't been climbed," said Lama. "That's probably why the Karakoram is known as paradise for us."

    This year has been particularly successful for Pakistan's climbing industry, which plummeted in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks in the U.S.

    In addition to hosting the renowned Lama for the first time, Nazir Sabir, Pakistan's elder statesman of climbing who was the country's first person to scale Everest, said 30 climbers summited K-2 in 2012, the first summits from the Pakistani side of the mountain since 11 people died trying in 2008.

    And the drone footage obtained during Lama and Ortner's climb will expose even more viewers to the legendary Karakoram mountain range.

    Drones also increasingly are being used in other adventure sports to push conventional photography boundaries. Cameras on drones have been used to capture video of surfers on Hawaii's North Shore and to chase mountain bikers speeding down mountain trails.

    "I've filmed anything from kayaking, rock climbing, mountain biking, to track and field to just casual walking," said photographer and videographer Mike Hagadorn, who has begun to build his own drones to support his Colorado-based firm, Cloud Level Media. "Anything you can dream of — and as long as you don't crash — you can make it happen."

    Experts predict drone cameras eventually will become an integral part of every sports shoot. But for now, they're definitely a novelty. The Swiss team filming Lama said villagers in Pakistan stood in awe, staring at the drones as they buzzed around, whenever he used one on the expedition.

    "We were trying to do this shot that showed this quaint village," Rich said. "But every single person in the shot is standing, stopped in the street, looking up at the helicopter."







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    Here you can find an HD video drone for your iphone/ipad for $299.

    http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2424345,00.asp
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    I always wondered how these would work in a SAR environment. Can they do live feeds?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HansJob View Post
    I always wondered how these would work in a SAR environment. Can they do live feeds?
    They could work fine if you have enough fly time.

    You could go for a couple that have reasonable dwell times. Then, mount them with beacons that can report back via radio with gps. Program them to flyba pattern to cover a zone rapidly.

    These could produce avy rescue magic if you can reduce search times over a substantial area by multiplying drones.

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    I've been thinking the same thing. Two ways...big expensive ones for resorts to use, perhaps equipped with recco too? Not sure how heavy that equipment is.

    And small foldable ones for your pack that can supplement a standard beacon search for bc tours. Those things can cover ground much faster than we can.

    I'm not sure how low they would need to fly to pick up a transceiver signal.

    Anyone working on this?
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    Yeah, a combo beacon search and photography platform would be nice.

    I want the drone to follow me down couloirs shooting video from various angles without human intervention during the run. Providing a high-level video plan at the top of the run would best.

    Really cool would be scanning the run with a rich set if sensors during a set up run. Then, given that model of the line, the user would architect the relative positions and shooting angles in a video plan. The drone then executes the video plan automatically on subsequent runs.

    Such programmable terrain following could obviously be used for avy safety with beacons. One mode is after the fact to execute a search pattern. Another mode is to fly overwatch on the skier, so the drone knows exactly where the skier is during the run, and any potential avalanche. Finally, one might as well toss in auto calls to mountain rescue with gps coordinates or more precise triangulation of the victim.
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    French are on the case.

    http://www.deltadrone.fr

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    Thanks for the link. What does that site say? I don't speak Spanish
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    Try this link.

    http://pistehors.com/drones-to-the-r...s-22883814.htm

    Drones to the rescue of Avalanche Victims

    With flying time costing 2000 euros per hour only the most prestigious ski resorts have a helicopter on stand-by. However and assuming the weather is favourable it remains the most effective search and rescue tool in the mountains. A low cost solution could revolutionize search and rescue: the Drone. Already on test with the rescue services in the Isere it should see more widespread deployment in ski resorts from next winter.



    Here is another one.

    http://diydrones.com/profiles/blogs/...quad-rotor-for

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    Thanks, those are good links and seem to be going exactly along the lines i was thinking. The personal one would be money if the whole bc crew had one. Simply point drone in direction of slide, let it search and land on a beacon signal? Potentially multiple drones talk to eachother and find multiples?

    On the other one, Anybody know how heavy a recco search unit is? Practical for drone use?
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    WSDOT is working on using drones for avi control.

    I can imagine sporting events like FWT and ASP could benefit greatly from drone video. Put tracking beacons on all the athletes, program the drone to follow and record.

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