Holy shit...

**PaSucks** · 03-16-2005, 09:56 PM

Fuck.

This girl was my junior prom date, what the fuck??? Jesus christ, this is fucked up.

**Blurred** · 03-16-2005, 09:59 PM

I'd suggest not being PaSucks "senior prom date".

**PaSucks** · 03-16-2005, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by BlurredElevens

I'd suggest not being PaSucks "senior prom date".

That girl is still alive, as far as I know. I will be keeping my ear to the ground though, seeing if I hear about another passing. She was actually best friends with the my junior prom date. Fucked up shit.

**iceman** · 03-16-2005, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by BlurredElevens

I'd suggest not being PaSucks "senior prom date".

There's just nothing right about you at all, is there, Brett?

Sorry to hear about that, PA.

**Blurred** · 03-16-2005, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by iceman

There's just nothing right about you at all, is there, Brett?

Sorry to hear about that, PA.

Sorry, but humor is someone elses misfortune.

Suicide is THE MOST selfish thing you can do, don't ask for my pity....

13 · 03-16-2005, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by BlurredElevens

Sorry, but humor is someone elses misfortune.

Suicide is THE MOST selfish thing you can do, don't ask for my pity....

Is it OK if I pity you instead?

**PaSucks** · 03-16-2005, 10:39 PM

I am not looking for pity, and for all I care, rip on this girl all you want, suicide is bullshit. But please, for the sake of her family and loved ones, please don't turn this into a flame war. Her legacy should not be a bunch of freaks screaming at each other on the internet.

13 · 03-16-2005, 10:49 PM

Sorry for your loss, homes.

**Buzzworthy** · 03-16-2005, 10:54 PM

Edit for whatever.

Edit: Sorry PA for what I wrote. This is a tradegy and I feel for you. Hang in there as you can.

**Blurred** · 03-16-2005, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by Buzzworthy

I have a wife who loves me, I have a beautiful daughter, I have the "perfect life".

yes, if you comitted suicide, not only would you be the worlds biggest pussy, you'd also be the worlds biggest douche by widowing your wife and bastardizing your child. Think about it, and don't beg for my pity.

(and yes, I think you're swell too.

)

**Buzzworthy** · 03-16-2005, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by BlurredElevens

yes, if you comitted suicide, not only would you be the worlds biggest pussy, you'd also be the worlds biggest douche by widowing your wife and bastardizing your child. Think about it, and don't beg for my pity.

(and yes, I think you're swell too.

)

I dont beg for shit! I simply opened up. Time to delete apparently. Had a moment and that was that. No shit man, I would be a fuck up. Welcome to inner toment that apperently you do not understand and I thankk God for that, as people should not understand.

Brett, we are two intelligent people here. Don't call me names. Be a fucking friend man. Not looking for anything, just adding my thoughts (not so easy).

And we need not to screw this thread up. PM me if you want to talk.

**PaSucks** · 03-16-2005, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by Buzzworthy

I dont beg for shit! I simply opened up. Time to delete apparently. Had a moment and that was that. No shit man, I would be a fuck up. Welcome to inner toment that apperently you do not understand and I thankk God for that, as people should not understand.

Brett, we are two intelligent people here. Don't call me names. Be a fucking friend man. Not looking for anything, just adding my thoughts (not so easy).

And we need not to screw this thread up. PM me if you want to talk.

Buzz, I agree wholeheartedly. Suicide if fucked up, but I feel compasion for those that go that route. I went through a time in my life where I contemplated it everyday. Life sucked so bad that I wanted to end it. I guess it didn't suck so bad that I actually would have ended it though. I can't even imagine the personal demons someone must have to actually off themselves. Instead of tearing someone apart for feeling miserable, feel some compasion.

Yes, suicide is selfish, but there must be some seriously fucked up shit going on inside of someones head to make them do it. Think about that for a minute, and the next time someone you know or care about is depressed, make them feel loved instead of shitting on them. It could save a life.

**Blurred** · 03-16-2005, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by Buzzworthy

I dont beg for shit! I simply opened up. Time to delete apparently. Had a moment and that was that. No shit man, I would be a fuck up. Welcome to inner toment that apperently you do not understand and I thankk God for that, as people should not understand.

Brett, we are two intelligent people here. Don't call me names. Be a fucking friend man. Not looking for anything, just adding my thoughts (not so easy).

And we need not to screw this thread up. PM me if you want to talk.

I've had a friend die just about every year for the last 10 years. My friend Pat stuck a gun to his head and pulled the trigger because he was depressed about the holidays. Had a friend stick a gun in his mouth during an argument with his girlfriend and pull the trigger in front of her. My sisters boyfriends dad committed suicide 2 years ago shortly after we celebrated Christmas with him. I had a friend driving home a few years ago after hanging with my girlfriend at Garfinkels in Vail, problem is, some drunk got on the interstate going the wrong way doing 75 mph, yup head on collision, both driving vans doing a combined speed of 150 mph. Both dead. (rip Richard) My friend JC fell off a roof doing his job, landed on his head and died. Sharon rolled her Jeep doing 80 on I-70 and was ejected, her Jeep was so fucked up they put it on the flatbed trailer upside down. One of my best friends in junior high school shot himself in the head....that was 7th grade for me.

What's my point? Lots of my friends have taken life for granted and killed themselves, only because they were feeling too sorry for themselves, etc. On the other hand, I have many friends whose lives ended WAY TOO QUICKLY. BIG difference, I only feel bad for one set of them....guess who.

Go scare the fuck out of yourself, and quit taking life for granted, kind of like that scene in "Fight Club", when you do your life will be enhanced. Personally, I wish I could live to be 500 years old and it would still be way too short.

**PaSucks** · 03-16-2005, 11:45 PM

Brett, I don't think anyone here is argueing that suicide is a goog thing or an appropriate way to deal with your problems. Don't feel bad for those that have taken their lives if you don't want to, but don't criticize every depressed person who has contemplated suicide as a selfish bastard unworthy of your support either. And if you know someone that may be suicidal, don't resort to the "selfish" arguement right off the bat and get angry at them. You got to make them see why life is worth living for themselves, not for others. People are naturally selfish, they are going to do things for themselves first. Some people just have to be shown why life is worth living.

**Buzzworthy** · 03-16-2005, 11:52 PM

You have been through a lot of stuff. Very hard.

I think it would be best to leave it at that.

**Lurch** · 03-16-2005, 11:56 PM

I lost a couple of friends to suicide when I was in my late teens and early twenties. It's so fucked up because at that point in your life you can't imagine someone your own age dieing and at least for me I never saw it coming. They all hid their depression so well.

**Buzzworthy** · 03-17-2005, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by Lurch

They all hide their depression so well.

And it sucks hardcore. You nailed it right on the head.

G · 03-17-2005, 02:21 AM

PA, I'm sure that sucks. I'm sorry to hear it.

Brett, If you considered me a friend, I too would want to kill myself.

**A-wreck** · 03-17-2005, 02:52 AM

Originally Posted by BlurredElevens

I'd suggest not being PaSucks "senior prom date".

Wow. That says a lot.

PA: So sorry to hear about your friend. I have not experienced that type of loss so I can't be of much help in the condolence department.

**SkiEvil** · 03-17-2005, 06:03 AM

Wow PA that sucks! Did not know her but I know alot of people from that area.

**ScottG** · 03-17-2005, 06:16 AM

Jesus, Blurred, re-read your posts and you are downright rude.
Sorry you have seen so much suicide - it does suck - but were you as rude to all the other survivors???
Do you walk up to the grave site and piss on the coffin??

I understand your anger at those who do it (I lost a good friend that way also) - but what about the survivors (like yourself, and like PA) who don't choose this but have to live with it??
Out of compassion, let me suggest that you might have some unresolved issues yourself (we all do). You may even want to try therapy someday. Call me names if you want, but seriously re-read your shit and wonder why you cant have any compassion for your "friend" Pa who has suffered the loss of someone he cared about.

Pa. Condolences. Peace to you and to everyone that cared about this poor girl.

**focus** · 03-17-2005, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by BlurredElevens

Sorry, but humor is someone elses misfortune.

Suicide is THE MOST selfish thing you can do, don't ask for my pity....

yeah. it's a good thing this thread is about the merits of suicide and brett's past experiences -- not that Pa just heard of an old friend's death, and how that kind of thing shakes you up.

having lived through a couple, suicide is absolutely brutal on the survivors. condolances, Pa.

**bigsugar** · 03-17-2005, 10:13 AM

Sorry to hear that Pa. I went through a similar experience not too long ago.......it definitely feels weird for a while.

I've also run on calls where a kids and adults have commited and attempted suicide. It is a horrible thing to see.

Depression is not something to take lightly.