Guess What came in the mail today!

**ak_powder_monkey** · 03-14-2005, 08:01 PM

Well guess. I'll give you a hint, this years corn harvest should include but not be limited too: Nutty Couloirs, Mt. Vista, Mt. Gordon Lyon and Mt. Eklutna

Now I just gotta practice

**Blurred** · 03-14-2005, 08:05 PM

A 12 inch long black dong?

**ak_powder_monkey** · 03-14-2005, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by BlurredElevens

A 12 inch long black dong?

nope no need for that

**Cornholio** · 03-14-2005, 08:07 PM

Not one of these, by any chance?

**Crinkle** · 03-14-2005, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by ak_powder_monkey

nope no need for that

some of us beg to differ, especially with improper fm use.

**Cornholio** · 03-14-2005, 08:08 PM

There's more to staying alive in the BC than having some electronic necklace strapped to your tits.

**Cliff Huckable** · 03-14-2005, 08:08 PM

Did you say Korn harvest?
Brian 'Head' Welch Aims To Save 50 Cent

"...like a loving father disciplining his son and telling him how it is — kind of like Tré's dad in the movie 'Boyz N the Hood,' " Welch said...

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/149...headlines=true

**Jumper Bones** · 03-14-2005, 08:35 PM

that fancy new tranciever won't do you a hill of good if you remain a moron.

**lax** · 03-14-2005, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by Cornholio

Not one of these, by any chance?

do those work on fingers?

G · 03-14-2005, 09:07 PM

A clue ?

**ScottG** · 03-14-2005, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by ak_powder_monkey

Well guess. I'll give you a hint, this years corn harvest should include but not be limited too: Nutty Couloirs, Mt. Vista, Mt. Gordon Lyon and Mt. Eklutna

Now I just gotta practice

Nope. You dont need no stinking practice to save yourself.
Practice is only good for the fools you ski with. They are relying on you to dig them out, and if you don't care and they don't care, then their death will be in your hands.

Now, if you don't want to die a virgin, make sure your BC buddy has practiced a lot. Test him. Time him. Quiz him.

Anyone willing to go out with you when you just got your shiny new avalanche body finder in the mail already has suspect judgement, so you should have serious doubts about their ability to find YOU.

**gorms** · 03-14-2005, 09:19 PM

Like others have said the beacon is a rescue/recovery tool

Once it is needed the mistakes have already been made and your only hope is that your partners can react.

Having a beacon on should not ease your decisions as to whether or not the slope is a go.

beacons are not avalanche kryptonyte

That being said...learn to use it and take plenty of pictures of your adventures then post the good ones.

**nealric** · 03-14-2005, 09:40 PM

Guess what came in the mail today?

A: A false sense of security

- Be careful out there!

**Spicoli** · 03-14-2005, 09:45 PM

I'm confused(and drunk). Does that ball gag double as a beacon?

**ScottG** · 03-14-2005, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by Spicoli

I'm confused(and drunk). Does that ball gag double as a beacon?

No, but it is a homo-ing device.

**Spicoli** · 03-14-2005, 09:58 PM

Oh, I get it. He said CORN harvest bwahahahaha
I guess a ball gag might come in handy when exploring the backcountry

**ScottG** · 03-14-2005, 10:01 PM

First AKPM gets a beacon,
then, he gets a phone # and maybe even a date:
http://tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26856

Dude, you are on top of the world!!!
Once you tell your new girl all about your skiing ability and that new beacon, and that ball gag, she will be all over you like stink on a fat person.

**Mountain Junkie** · 03-14-2005, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by nealric

Guess what came in the mail today?

A: A false sense of security

- Be careful out there!

Exactly. Spring skiing (once the snow pack is in a MF cycle) is a straightforward go-no go situation. Its more important to read the snow than rely on a beacon. In fact, you probably don't even need a beacon (although it never hurts).

**ak_powder_monkey** · 03-15-2005, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by Mountain Junkie

Exactly. Spring skiing (once the snow pack is in a MF cycle) is a straightforward go-no go situation. Its more important to read the snow than rely on a beacon. In fact, you probably don't even need a beacon (although it never hurts).

Absolutely the beacon is there so I can save my buddy or he can save me just in case, and here with our tendency to get fresh snow in may a beacon for the spring will be a good thing. That being said I will definately also have to take in account probably moreso the consquences of a slide in terms of what it would drag you over, a summer wet snow slide would probably hurt you more by dragging you over rocks. At any rate this doesn't change a thing except for when I'm on top of a chute with a bomber snowpack thats 45 degrees I will ski it instead of looking at it longingly and skiing the 20 degree backside

**ak_powder_monkey** · 03-15-2005, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by gorms

That being said...learn to use it and take plenty of pictures of your adventures then post the good ones.

you can be sure of that one

**bad_roo** · 03-15-2005, 05:18 AM

Beacons work really well when you're being strained through a stand of trees at 60mph.

Get an avy class, stat.

**jonski** · 03-15-2005, 06:21 AM

Originally Posted by ak_powder_monkey

...when I'm on top of a chute with a bomber snowpack thats 45 degrees I will ski it instead of looking at it longingly and skiing the 20 degree backside

Hope you have the right definition of "bomber", as that is exactly the way people get hurt.

You didn't ski it before because you had doubts, but suddenly cos you've got a beacon the doubts dissappear??

As others have said, get a class.....and practise LOTS. Anyone can use a beacon to find another, but with practise you may find it attached to a person instead of a corpse.

**KANUTTEN** · 03-15-2005, 07:03 AM

Congrats with your new beeper, AKPM!

Being paternalistic is really not my style, but reading this;

Originally Posted by ak_powder_monkey

At any rate this doesn't change a thing except for when I'm on top of a chute with a bomber snowpack thats 45 degrees I will ski it instead of looking at it longingly and skiing the 20 degree backside

without any comments is difficult. I don't remember the statistics by heart 100%, but here goes: About 10% of all avi-victims die on impact. A much larger percentage have serious injuries. If the remaining 90% about half are dead within the next 15-20 minutes. After 30 minutes, the percentage is up dramatically. The first 15 minutes of search are really really critical.

We all take our chances. But in my mind I will do everything to avoid a decent size avi, beacon or no beacon. If a potential avi can bury you in 6-10 feet of snow, chances are slim with only ne buddy searching for you. Also if an avi will carry you over cliffs asf... you know - the beacon is not likely to help much. If the potential avi looks relatively small, I suppose a beacon could mean I would do it even though without a beacon I might not.

But I guess the message is; try by all means to stay out of avalanches, especially the slab ones. Try to learn something about snow and which kinds are more likely to release as slab avis. "Whoom" sounds from the snow, cracks in the snow and avalanches in similar aspects all means: STAY AWAY! Also avoid putting a lot of pressure (i.e. turn in speed) on the snow where it is most likely to have weak points (at the convex and concave parts at the beg/end of steeps). Avi danger is greatest at slopes between 30 and 45 degrees.

But heaving this gear is for sure a good idea. Together with good use of common sense I hope it will give you a lot of good skiing experiences. Stay alive and enjoy the mountains, buddy

**Cornholio** · 03-15-2005, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by ak_powder_monkey

At any rate this doesn't change a thing except for when I'm on top of a chute with a bomber snowpack thats 45 degrees I will ski it instead of looking at it longingly and skiing the 20 degree backside

You've said a lot of dumb things here, dood. Really, it's impressive.

But this one will get you dead. If you don't understand why, take a class, read lots, and read more until you understand why.