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Thread: Praxis Protest..just how cool is it?

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    This a helpful reference point as far as folks' comments about nimble behavior in trees.

    This looks a LOT more wide open than the tight stashes I encounter in Colorado.

    If i had a Go Pro, I'd show ya.

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    Thinking of pulling out the protests for the the first time this Friday. What the min amount of fresh snow you all look to bring them out at?
    FYI I also have Bibby’s. Trying to figure out the point where it’s worth bringing them out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PNW_Skier206 View Post
    Thinking of pulling out the protests for the the first time this Friday. What the min amount of fresh snow you all look to bring them out at?
    FYI I also have Bibby’s. Trying to figure out the point where it’s worth bringing them out.


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    My two cents: any more than 3 inches. For me, it more depends where you're using them than the amount of snow -- Skiing a resort that gets tracked fast? Bibby. Skiing sidecountry or mostly uncut pow? Protest.
    sproing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PNW_Skier206 View Post
    Thinking of pulling out the protests for the the first time this Friday. What the min amount of fresh snow you all look to bring them out at?
    FYI I also have Bibby’s. Trying to figure out the point where it’s worth bringing them out.


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    Oh boy that’s a tough one. If 4” of high density at my empty, smooth resort, they come out. Feels like bottomless pow until it gets chopped up. 8”+, yup, I’m on ProTesteses. No new snow and it rained like crazy, ProTesteses. 4” of new hot pow, ProTesteses. 10” new pow then turned to rain, yup you guessed it, ProTesteses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meter-man View Post
    My two cents: any more than 3 inches. For me, it more depends where you're using them than the amount of snow -- Skiing a resort that gets tracked fast? Bibby. Skiing sidecountry or mostly uncut pow? Protest.
    ‘‘This is it exactly. Or billy goat. I’m not sure why I would ski bibby over BG. But protest is great in soft snow and is just a lot of fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by galibier_numero_un View Post
    This a helpful reference point as far as folks' comments about nimble behavior in trees.

    This looks a LOT more wide open than the tight stashes I encounter in Colorado.

    If i had a Go Pro, I'd show ya.

    ... Thom
    I don't own a gopro anymore but I ski trees much tighter than those open fields with a few trees in them. They are nimble for sure. I find they shine pretty hard when there's a zipper or wind crust too. So hook-free.

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    Perfect thanks guys. If it’s deep I’m skiing sidecountry so mostly untracked or lightly tracked.


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    Quote Originally Posted by whyturn View Post
    I’m not sure why I would ski bibby over BG.
    Well for starters I don’t have BG although I’m dying to get on them.


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    First day on the protest today in 9 to 11 inches, with lots of wind loading.

    Un fucking real.

    So loose, but ski fast so well. They want to run and ski pow fast yet are 100% fine when you want to shut it down. Was interested to see how they'd do in chop - they want to just plane over it and are straight enough to do well. Sure a bibby is better in chop - but the protest made chop fun af

    I'm on an older 187 standard layup w/ fks. I usually ski longer skis, but got them cheap. Mounted just forward of the line due to prior mounts. Can't imagine that if I went forward I'd be stuffing the tips on these things, especially at speed. I have 192 gpo's inbounds and 187 UL's for touring which feels pretty dialed- I'd think the same would apply with lengths for these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sruffian View Post
    First day on the protest today in 9 to 11 inches, with lots of wind loading.

    Un fucking real.

    So loose, but ski fast so well. They want to run and ski pow fast yet are 100% fine when you want to shut it down. Was interested to see how they'd do in chop - they want to just plane over it and are straight enough to do well. Sure a bibby is better in chop - but the protest made chop fun af

    I'm on an older 187 standard layup w/ fks. I usually ski longer skis, but got them cheap. Mounted just forward of the line due to prior mounts. Can't imagine that if I went forward I'd be stuffing the tips on these things, especially at speed. I have 192 gpo's inbounds and 187 UL's for touring which feels pretty dialed- I'd think the same would apply with lengths for these.
    Way to go! They are a blast of a ski. I’m holding out on getting mine mounted until my roommate trades me his Shifts. Hopefully sooner rather then later.


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    Quote Originally Posted by whyturn View Post
    Sometimes just easier to show how a ski can rip the trees and make any turn shape so quick!


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    Awesome! As an aside, in the PNW that is “wide open spaces”. Tree skiing is quite a bit different up here. [emoji16]

    Hoping to get my Aeverguese 192’s out in the real deep this week.


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    It's really pretty shocking how well these things ski all kinds of snow. chop, Windfuck, breakable crust, bottomless pow and so on.

    I still really like my resort pow charger but i did not think this shape could replace it but it definitely could.

    I have zero regrets about the UL core but one day I will seriously consider complementing with a heavy+Carbon 196 for resort duty.

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    Skied my OG 188 Hybrids at Sugar Bowl yesterday. Still fun as ever.
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    Mounting my 192’s this weekend...can’t wait.

    Mounting the wife’s -10 177’s as well...will be an interesting experiment for a 118lb woman

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    Be interested to see how the -10 protests go. Hope the mount position is good

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    Agreed...it’s a variable forsure

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    Praxis Protest..just how cool is it?

    Re: -10 protest mount...

    I’ve always had demo binders on my 187 protests in order to play around with the mount point. I just recently discovered that the mounting location I’ve settled on is actually just over -10 CM from true center. And I think they fucking rock there, FWIW

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    That’s more playing around then I’d ever give a ski time....at some point I figure out how to work with it. Keith’s mounts for me historically have been great. It’s the -10
    On the protest which curveballs it a touch. I just emailed him

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    The chicken test exists!
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    So, I skied the AeverTests yesterday at Stevens and don't think I will be holding on to them. I just love the BillyGoat feel too much. So, I'll be posting the 192 veneers (with a half day on them) and my 187's from a few seasons ago in Gear Swap some time this week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandit Man View Post
    So, I skied the AeverTests yesterday at Stevens and don't think I will be holding on to them. I just love the BillyGoat feel too much. So, I'll be posting the 192 veneers (with a half day on them) and my 187's from a few seasons ago in Gear Swap some time this week.
    The bubingas? Goddammit... must resist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norseman View Post
    The bubingas? Goddammit... must resist
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandit Man View Post
    So, I skied the AeverTests yesterday at Stevens and don't think I will be holding on to them. I just love the BillyGoat feel too much. So, I'll be posting the 192 veneers (with a half day on them) and my 187's from a few seasons ago in Gear Swap some time this week.
    Curious as to the conditions and what you didn’t like about them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2FUNKY View Post
    Curious as to the conditions and what you didn’t like about them?
    Super light and dry powder from 8-15" on a rain crust. The width of the ski was brutal on my aging body when I would hit bottom. They wanted to run and I didn't have room for them to do so. I swapped to my 189 Asym BG's after five runs and I was just dialed. I think the 192 is still too big of a ski for where I ski (Stevens Pass) and how I ski (trees, mini-golf lines, etc.). I bet I would feel differently about the Protests at a place like Mammoth or Snowbird where they can take advantage of room to run. Solid skis for the right skier...I just find that the BG's and my style pair up well.
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