
Originally Posted by
WaistDeepGroomers
Hey diggers... finally getting more permission to do some digging at the local trails up here in Maine and hoping to shape up some of the downhills in order to improve the flow in a few key sections when rocks/terrain really suck up the speed. Hoping to build a few dirt transitions here and there to allow you to get a little bit of air over some of the garbage. Have mostly been building berms and still in remedial school with that... often building the berms outside of the natural line and then having to pull all the dirt into the turn after the fact. Given this...
for a trail like this i would start by looking for any natural transitions that can be used to pump for free speed, and see if any of them can be used as landings for a jump up trail, utilize the existing flow and enhance it, trying to create new jumps and landings that flow is far harder than finessing a natural rhythm the trail already has
-If you're trying to build a jump (and ideally a landing) how do you decide how big it/the gap should be before digging? Build the jump first, huck to flat and build the landing after?
experience... i would never build a huck to flat and then test to find where to build a landing, but i do build a lip first and rough in landing then test before finalizing the landing to save reworking time, at the end of the day someone just has to be the guinea pig on your best guess though
-Same thing with rollers... how do you decide the spacing and how steep the incline should be?
rollers are speed dependent, the faster you go, the longer and mellower they need to be, and they should always be longer and mellower than you think, always, new diggers make them far far far to peaky, always, rollers should not be jumps, they have no lips, they are not concave, they are loooonnggg and mellow and you should always catch backside and never be thrown into face of next roller, they are not whoops, they are rollers, make them rollable at high speed, if you can double them then rad but you dont need a lip, thats called a jump and not a roller
-And still struggling with how to decide where to place the berm, how big it needs to be, angle, etc. I'm still shocked after I throw a bunch of dirt together, tamp it into the shape I want, then ride it, and my tire marks are nowhere near where I'd imagine.... often inside and only in the berm for the first half of the turn.
a helpful approach can be to walk 20 yards uptrail and think about where you want your berm to be, then stand in middle of berm and look at exit and decide where you want to be pointed, fill in the blanks... berms are hard, they take a good eye, if you are finding you only use the first half of the berm and arent getting onto the face of it, then why would that be happening? are you going as fast as desired but dont need as tall a berm as you thought? is the entry not conducive to getting onto the face of it for some reason? is the exit too short and you dont feel confident in riding it to the end? ime damn near every berm is too short in radius and height on the exit, but i prefer to rainbow my berms and stick the face as long as possible, some prefer to square them off and like short berms with a tight pocket to slam into, no right way, but when im the one with the shovel i cater to myself and others can deal with the results or grab a shovel themselves
Danke!
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