Why Music Videos Don't Cost $500.00

[systemoverblow'd]

Finally, someone hammered it out for all to see. I think it's funny that people expect to pay doctors and chefs and lawyers but somehow think us creatives like working for free. And honestly, replace music video with just about anything. The concept still applies.

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Every week I get at least three phone calls from artists looking to create music videos. While these are occasionally legitimate leads, most of the time the people calling have minuscule budgets of $500.00 or less. The purpose of this article is to clearly explain why a great music video does not cost $500.00. My hope is that this post will serve as an education for people who are looking to make music videos, but have very little knowledge of the business.

So the phone rings….
Having been in the music video production business for many years, I have a standard set of questions I always ask:

1. Can I hear the track?
2. Do you have a concept in mind or are you looking to us for guidance?
3. What’s your budget?

These questions allow me to fully understand what and who we are dealing with. We like to listen to the song first to evaluate if it has commercial viability or strong viral potential (or both). Often if we like the song, we are more likely to make a sweat-equity investment in the form of gear, reduced crew rates or extra edit hours. If we don’t really connect with the song or make the judgement that the final product won’t really have legs from a viewership standpoint, we will typically pass. We ask the artist if they have a concept in mind for two reasons. If the artist has a vision for the video, we want to evaluate how much it will cost to realize that vision successfully. If the artist does not have a concept, we will determine what concepts we can effectively execute with the funds available, which leads into the final question: the budget. The budget dictates nearly every facet of the music video production and post production process. Without one, we can’t clearly lay out a plan to produce a successful video because we don’t know what tools we’ll have at our disposal.

Believe it or not, at this point I am often asked “what’s a budget”? For our purposes, a budget is simply the total sum of money allocated for a particular purpose or period of time. So in this case it’s “How much money do you have available to pay for the music video?”.

As touched on above, the budget determines almost everything about the music video, including:

1. What the concept will/can be.

Some concepts, like “performance piece” music videos (i.e. capturing a band playing live at a club) can be made very simply. However, more complicated music videos with high-end visual effects, motion graphics, complicated camera moves, and intricate costumes or props take time and resources. Basically, they cost much more money. In even the simplest, bare bones scenario, the costs are MUCH greater than $500.00. Knowing what funds are available helps us create or refine the concept so that it can be executed properly. Trying to produce a concept that is unrealistic for the budget simply sets you up for failure. When you engage our services, you’re paying not just for the production, but for the execution. You can be sure you’ll get the absolute best video possible for your available budget. That’s what we do. If you have your heart set on a $100,000.00 concept and you only have $5,000.00, we’re not going to move forward. We want to hit home runs with every project we produce, not just collect checks.

2. What locations will be available.

Locations can often be an important component of a music video. Good locations typically require one of two things: money or a relationship. Even if you can get a “free” location, there is still cost involved. In this business you’ve got to call in favors carefully, because they are like gold. Most people only allow a film crew to take over their property one time, because, let’s be honest, even a highly skilled film crew can be rough on a house/venue. Often the shoot and resulting video are not directly beneficial to the property owner. That means every time you get a location for free you are potentially losing it as useable location for future projects. Its also important to understand that planning, booking, and cleaning up the location cost time, and time is MONEY (READ: man-hours cost money). A good location will typically run you at least $1000.00 for 10-12 hours, and frequently much more. $500 won’t take you very far in the locations department.
Music Video Gear Atlanta Georgia

There are a multitude of different camera options for shooting video in HD, 4K and beyond.

3. What kind of gear we will use.

They say there’s a million ways to skin a cat (who are these people who are skinning cats?). The same can be said for how a music video can be shot and edited. There are a plethora of high-quality professional camera options, countless lights with widely varied wattages and color temperatures, and a myriad of support equipment choices, all of which creates a multitude of options for directors and DPs. All these choices have different pros and cons and, most importantly, different pricing. Typically, the better the gear, the higher the price. The budget is important in this equation because $500.00 won’t even get you the body* for most professional cameras for a single day. It’s important to note here that most gear rents in 24-hour increments. Often you can get three-day weeks and eight-day months to incentivize longer rental agreements. This means that, for example, if you rent the gear for seven days (a full week), you pay three times the daily rate (rather than seven) and if you rent it for thirty days (a full month), you pay eight times the daily rate. Once again, $500.00 won’t take you very far, even with the price breaks for longer rentals.

*Body: A camera body (sometimes called the “brain”) is the primary portion of the digital camera, which contains the controls, the LCD, the internal image processor, and the associated circuitry. (Essentially the camera without the lens.)

4. What size & skill level of crew you will have.

Making video is a team sport and a great team usually consists of at least seven to ten people. On larger projects the crew can be thirty people or more. Film and video crews typically work based on day rates. A day rate is typically a set amount of money for a set amount of time filling a crew position. Typically our company runs crews on half day rates (4hrs) and full day rates (10hrs). Crew rates vary based on experience and ability. Yet another reason music videos do not cost $500.00 is that good crew members aren’t cheap. Highly skilled crew members ensure a high quality music video. And remember, you don’t just have to pay them, you have to FEED them too (see below).

Below are some typical day rate ranges for video professionals in the Atlanta, Georgia area. The crew ECG Productions employs typically fall within these ranges (though rarely at the bottom of the range).

All day rates based on 10 hour days:

Director: $800 – $3500
Producer: $600 – $800
Director of Photography: $600 – $2000
Camera Operator: $400 – $600
First Assistant Camera: $400 – $800
Assistant Director: $400 – $600
Second Assistant Director: $250 – $500
Gaffer: $300 – $600
DIT: $300 – $600
Rigging Grip: $200 – $400
Dolly Grip: $200 – $400
Electric: $200 – $400
Steadicam Operator (With Gear): $800 – $1600
Crane Operator (With Gear): $800 – $1600
Production Assistant: $75 – $200
Hair and Makeup: $400 – $800
Wardrobe: $400 – $800
Production Designer: $500 – $1500
Art Director: $400 – $800
Set Dresser: $200 – $400
Sound Engineer: $300 – $600
Boom Operator: $150 – $300

As you can see, $500.00 isn’t even enough to get you one crew member in most cases, let alone a full crew plus post-production and delivery. Let me stress it again: music videos DO NOT cost $500.00.

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[systemoverblow'd]

5. How long will you have to shoot the video?

Most music videos will take at least ten hours (one full day) to shoot, but some will take significantly longer, especially if there are a lot of company moves*. Because your gear and crew rates are all based around time, the longer you shoot the more it will cost.

*Company Move: The act of a film or video production team packing up all their gear from one location and moving to another location to continue shooting.

6. How long will you have to edit the video?

The amount of time it takes to edit a music video can vary based on the complexity of the concept, the amount of cameras used, the total amount of footage captured, the need for animation or special effects, and color grading to name just a few. Editing, color grading, animations, and compositing are all typically billed at an hourly rate. At ECG Productions we bill at $125.00/hr for editing and $150.00/hr for animation and compositing. We tend to fall within the median price range in the Atlanta area. So, as you can tell, $500.00 does not go far in the post-production phase of the project either.

7. Food, beverage, and snack costs: (AKA Craft Services)

Almost no one outside the production business thinks about this, but on set you need to buy food & drink not only for the crew but for the cast and in some cases the client/investor as well. A crew of ten on a hot day can burn through beverages and ice quickly. Combine that with one (sometimes two) meals in a day, plus snacks, and costs can add up quickly. Even having your mom make food will still have some cost associated with it. I won’t even mention “that” number again. I’m sure you get it by now.

All that said, we absolutely LOVE making music videos. However, after doing a number of them, its frustrating to be constantly asked for such a huge, all-encompassing undertaking for such a tiny amount of money. We aren’t greedy, we just won’t take on a project that we can’t make successful. The reality is that the proper amount of money and resources is the key to making any video endeavor successful. The music business has changed drastically over the years and a good music video can be the cornerstone of creating your band’s online image. Recently Billboard even started calculating their charts based on internet views, downloads, and listens. A great music video is an opportunity. It’s a business expense and must be funded properly. Having a compelling video can mean the difference between making a living making music or waiting tables. I know it’s cliche but you only have one chance to make a first impression.

And this is why MUSIC VIDEOS DO NOT COST $500.00!

In closing (and I mean this in the absolute nicest way possible), if you have $500.00 to produce your music video, you should probably be looking for a college student on Craigslist, not calling on professionals. We are happy to talk to you and offer our advice, but please don’t be offended if we can’t make your vision a reality at such a low price. I promise that we will always be honest with you, listen to your ideas and try to point you in the right direction. But I’d be lying if I didn’t say that if you were thinking of picking up the phone to call me about your $500.00 music video, that after reading this post, you’ll go back and try to raise the proper capital to do it the right way before you reach out. We’ll be here when you’re ready, and I can guarantee you’ll see every dollar you spend with us up on the screen. We’re not lining our pockets here, we truly do love to create high quality music videos at a fair price. That fair price may seem expensive, but that’s only for one reason: we’re worth it.

If you’re interested in producing a music video (and you’ve got the proper amount of monetary resources to do it RIGHT), please don’t hesitate to contact us at info@ecgprod.com. We’d love to help you make your vision a reality and tell the story of your song with the power of the moving image!

[saxon]

interesting rant.

[kidwoo]

Heh. I'm so far removed from that world but even I would punch someone for offering 500 bucks.

[Chainsaw_Willie]

$400 is top of the range for an electrician for a 10 hour day?

Guess I won't be getting into the music video business.

[systemoverblow'd]

$400 is top of the range for an electrician for a 10 hour day?

Guess I won't be getting into the music video business.

Union grips make good money. One thing you're not getting, is these dudes aren't wiring buildings. They are plugging in lights, gaffing and taking care of stingers and shit. You need about zero experience to be a video electric grip on 99% of sets. Making $2000/week (aka ~$100K/year) for doing nothing isn't all that bad of a deal. About 90% of the majority of peoples time on set is spent standing around. True story.

And frankly, I'm amused that is what you took away from that story.

[Chainsaw_Willie]

I didn't figure they'd be employed full-time doing that kind of work. Is there really enough work in the video biz to keep electricians employed full time, year round? On a day-to-day basis $400 is pretty good but if you only work half the weeks out of the year it's not so good. Also, you listed the range at $200-$400. Sure, it may be an easy job but being at work 50 hours a week and only bringing home $1000 is peanuts for a good electrician, and especially so if you don't work every week of the year. I suppose if you're a sound & comm guy maybe that's not out of line.

I totally understand your rant, it's all about people's disconnect from reality and resulting unrealistic expectations, but of course I zeroed in on the aspect of it closest to my heart (and stomach.)

[systemoverblow'd]

Yeah, the "labor" workers aren't paid as well as their experienced commercial/residential counterparts outside of this industry. Because frankly anyone could do those jobs on video crews.

[nickwm21]

How much would you charge to edit 3 hrs of raw gopro footing from last weeks pond skim into a music video featuring my roommates rock/rap/reggae band?

sent from the future using my mind powers

[JayPowHound]

...goddamnappstillwontdeleteposts.....

[Meadow Skipper]

Funny timing. An old friend from high school days just rolled into town. We'd been out of touch until a couple of years ago but during the 80s she produced a number of well known artists' music videos. Wrote a pretty hilarious book about it. I'm looking forward to hanging out with her and hearing more stories about clueless, entitled and impossible people.

[Tippster]

I didn't figure they'd be employed full-time doing that kind of work. Is there really enough work in the video biz to keep electricians employed full time, year round? On a day-to-day basis $400 is pretty good but if you only work half the weeks out of the year it's not so good. Also, you listed the range at $200-$400. Sure, it may be an easy job but being at work 50 hours a week and only bringing home $1000 is peanuts for a good electrician, and especially so if you don't work every week of the year. I suppose if you're a sound & comm guy maybe that's not out of line.

I totally understand your rant, it's all about people's disconnect from reality and resulting unrealistic expectations, but of course I zeroed in on the aspect of it closest to my heart (and stomach.)

Depends where you are. In LA the same people who produce music videos also do commercials, TV shows, and movies. It's all the same pool.

My Brother-in-Law is a camera dept. guy in LA - DP, Operator, and/or 1st AC work. He no longer does music videos because the shoots are pretty long and labor-intensive and everyone tries to get a lower day-rate out of you than other productions.

[hatchgreenchile]

Good post/rant. It's funny how some people think things work.

Back in college, I had a pretty nice setup . Finished basement loaded w/ guitars, amps, monitors, multiple mics, digital piano, synthesizer, Logic Studio, and a beatup Silvertone keyboard.

Lots of money in that setup. Lots of time reading the 1700 page Logic instruction manuel too, and lots of scrub talent who expect you to work for nothing. Even a good friend of mind wanted me to produce a 8 track rap demo (estimated at 80 hrs of work) for a 30 rack of Blue Light.

[systemoverblow'd]

It never stops. We just got asked to shoot an all day event, with three cameras, two people in New Jersey. Airfare, shooting and editing afterwards... their budget is $2000. LOL.

[kidwoo]

Airfare, ..................budget is $2000. LOL.

Quit yer bitchin. Your arms flap don't they?

[systemoverblow'd]

I only flap my gums

[DasBlunt]

people think they are entitled when working in art. It is a common theme. sounds shitty.

but it goes both ways dude.

Management is constantly trying to assume and postulate that the artists are somehow like the plastic wrap surrounding the Twinkie. Of course management prints the label, does the marketing, places the product, but the artists are the cream filling and spongy cake.