nice choices on graphic for those skis, Dane1
so those are 182 GPO, 187 Protest, 192 GPO, right?
Where did you mount the 187 Protests with respect to dimple?
Aggressive in my own mind
My automatics engage very well on hardpack, they actually rip the shit out of groomers better than any 115ish ski I've been on, I think it's because they have a pretty generous amount of camber, and the sidecut is more 'abrupt' for lack of a better word; the transition between the regular sidecut and reverse sidecut in the tips and tails is quite sharp compared to the GPO.
The GPO has very low camber as well, which, with the less abrupt shape, makes me think it won't be nearly as good on the hardpack, but I'm hoping this means it's not as turny/hooky when charging down wide open untracked, which is my only gripe with the Auto's, and the reason I bought the GPOs
yes, sorted now, thanksYou mean cm?
Last edited by Dane1; 10-29-2013 at 08:58 PM.
I am skiing everything on tech bindings and AT boots. Each ski with different bindings and ramp angles. The 182 is the closest to a alpine set up for ramp angle. Ramp angle is the biggest part of my reasoning for different mount points. The other is just to be able to compare the 182 and the 192 boot placements on a GPO. A better explanation as to why is here bottom of the page:I'd be interested to hear your thinking behind that.
http://epicski.onthesnow.com/t/12242...ep-day-skis/30
I think I'm going for some GPOs, but unsure about the length.
Is the med/stiff too stiff? I'm 5'11", 166 lbs, and by no means a hard charger.
Any help?
Mid stiff is pretty *mid* and not very stiff by comarison to most skis I've hand flexed. I would never think any one would call it too stiff. Just right may be, but not too mid, and not too stiff. Sounds all weird and not like a serious answer...but it isn't and it isMy vote for your size and non charger would be a 182. YMMV of course....I am sure everyone's else will.
If you've not already done so, read this: http://www.praxisskis.com/pages/cons...omparison.html
It is well worth dropping Praxis an email asking for advice.
FWIW I'm pretty much your size, I went with the 187 carbon in med + . I have Praxis concepts in a medium flex, when I hand flexed them I was disappointed and thought they would be way to soft, but honestly never had an issue with speed limit or flap. This could be more to do with the overall design of the ski not sure, but its nice being able to really flex the ski at lower speeds, and still not worry about the ski folding in crud at high speed. Hence why I went with the medium+ in the GPO. Also I wanted the GPO for bigger spaces and more snow which is why went with the 187. There is still a ton tip and tail rocker so should be very easy to throw around. I admit though I'd be curious to try the 182 based on my experience with the shorter concept. Work it out with Keith, he'll set you up right.
Just got my carbon 187 GPO. 9.4 lbs Nice even flex and different feel than my 192 fiberglass. I noticed drew signed them on the core it looks like. Stoked to ski them soon.
Shipping my 192 GPO to another mag for part two of their journey
I need to go to Utah.
Utah?
Yeah, Utah. It's wedged in between Wyoming and Nevada. You've seen pictures of it, right?
So after 15 years we finally made it to Utah.....
Thanks BCSAR and POWMOW Ski Patrol for rescues
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Just to add a little colour to the medium vs med stiff debate, when I first hand flexed my medium carbon Jibs I thought, "Oh oh, too soft" but they do not ski soft. They flex when you want them to (e.g. in bumps) but don't flap / chatter at all and hold a solid edge too. Quite how Keith has managed this is a mystery to me....I'm 5ft 10, 175 lbs, technically competent but not a charger.
still waitin for somebody to go 192/stiff and report back..
I would if I didn't have Billygoats, Kusalas and Wrenegades to test this year (and Dynastar Big Dumps if they don't fucking sell).
"Alpine rock and steep, deep powder are what I seek, and I will always find solace there." - Bean Bowers
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gf is in town, i cant freak her out like that! pending a pair 12/13 191 BG's dont fall in my lap come springtime im takin mounting the praxi stiffy.
I got a 192 med stiff+ for Stevens. Probably would have done stiff if I planned to be in Utah again. I should have them mounted up for a 305, if you fit I can let you take a couple runs
^ ive got clown feet, thanks for the offer though. i would think the opposite though- if i was more inland id have less need for a stiffy. im sure the med+ is gonna be a blast.
"Alpine rock and steep, deep powder are what I seek, and I will always find solace there." - Bean Bowers
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I have a pair of 187 carbon layups that will have an STH and radical pattern for 304. I'm in the Seattle area so would be happy to let someone take em for a spin. I'd like to try the 192...
I would love to get on the infamous BG for a run or two... It's all but officially on my hit list of next purchases.
Common sense. So rare today in America it's almost like having a superpower.
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