Touring pants

[SUPERIOR]

I bought mammut base jump touring pants and they rock, although the fit is a bit euro

[LawndartGustav]

Dynafit Chugach Windstopper pants seem to be the bomb!

[AKbruin]

Anyone with hot new touring pants for this upcoming season? Haven't seen too many new entries recently... Looking for softshell or very breathable bibs or pants (already have a bombproof Trewth for full 3-layer).

The following seem like the best options (for me anyway):

Trew Roam (20mm WP/40mm breathable)
OR Trailbreaker (3 layer bottom/softshell thighs)
Flylow Compound (full Neoshell)

What am I missing?
Other Flylow?
Pattaguch?
Freeride Systems?
Other small co's?

Add me as a big fan of the Trailbreakers. I wear them 75% of the time. If it's snowing/snaining, I'll go with hardshell pants. If it's really hot, I'll wear the Ferrosi pants, which are also great but are a little tight around my (manly) thighs.

[deft_funk]

I was underwhelmed by the Flylow IQ pants last season. They are nice and light but the side vents are so small they are basically useless, and I kept overheating. Why bother with vents if they're only 6" long? I also found the cut around the crotch to be awkwardly low for skinning- had to pull the waist way up so the crotch wasn't limiting my stride. Other than that I like them, but both issues are annoying enough that I'm considering replacing them and wouldn't buy again.

[whyturn]

I got the OR Valhalla and put suspenders on them. Breathed well and comfortable

[phatty]

I got the OR Valhalla and put suspenders on them. Breathed well and comfortable

I have a pair of brand new large blue Valhalla pants if anyone is interested.

[XXX-er]

the side vents are so small they are basically useless, and I kept overheating. Why bother with vents if they're only 6" long? I also found the cut around the crotch to be awkwardly low for skinning- had to pull the waist way up so the crotch wasn't limiting my stride. .

what I noticed with my pategucci vs arcteryx IS

patagucci had pockets with vertical opennings so that vertical opening
takes up area on the pant leg so the vent can not be as long

while the arcteryx had horizontal opennings with longer zipped vents ... mo better.

also shit can more easily fall out of a vertical pocket opening when its not zipped

SO IMO you wana look for pants with horizontal pockets

[barkcity]

I got the OR Valhalla and put suspenders on them. Breathed well and comfortable

+1 on the Valhalla. My go to BC pants, unless it's really wet. Pants breath well; have a beacon pocket; and have good wind resistance.

Lg fits me well (5'11", 185lbs w/32" inseam), but leg length is a touch long.

[auvgeek]

Been digging the Arc Stinger pants for mid-winter touring lately. No inner thigh zips, but other than that, they're great if you need/want a hardshell pant. Ferrosi pant is clutch for warm spring/summer days, though.

[PNWbrit]

+1 on the Valhalla. My go to BC pants, unless it's really wet. Pants breath well; have a beacon pocket; and have good wind resistance.

Lg fits me well (5'11", 185lbs w/32" inseam), but leg length is a touch long.

I wish they'd put a zip gusset on pant cuffs though.. they're a bit seventies disco looking when wearing sneakers or hiking boots on spring approaches.

[Danny Noonan]

I spent last season in the Trew Roam pants in the backcountry and really liked them. I have the Trewth Bibs as well as my daily bombers but found the touring pant super functional. They were definitely light, stretchy, and comfy to wear. Great pocket setup, and the breathability was incredible as well as having the cross venting ability. Fit was dead on for what I like, a little trimmer without being full on Euro, though I would like a little wider bottom opening if you are not in a total Enduro boot. Pics attached for reference of sizing (6'0, 180-185 in a Large). I personally loved the half bib style (though the waist was pretty enormous up top and really click suspenders).

Some little changed that could be made in new iterations but would have absolutely no hesitations in recommending them as a totally functioning piece of backcountry kit.

[zion zig zag]

Anyone tried the new OR Skyward pant?: http://www.outdoorresearch.com/en/ca...view/id/64185/

[Timberridge]

Any info on the Rab Neo Guide pant? For a bit over $200 at BC.com seem interesting.

Trying to find a pant between the Flylow Chemical arabian genie fit


...and a euro metrosexual fit.

[summit]

Any info on the Rab Neo Guide pant? For a bit over $200 at BC.com seem interesting.

Trying to find a pant between the Flylow Chemical arabian genie fit

...and a euro metrosexual fit.

That Rab pant looks kicks ass. That is on my short list to replace my HH Odin Mountain if HH keeps the crap pocket design changes.

[barkcity]

...Valhalla Pant...

I wish they'd put a zip gusset on pant cuffs though.. they're a bit seventies disco looking when wearing sneakers or hiking boots on spring approaches.

Can't argue with that note, but 70's disco works great for end of season on mountain parties!

[Andeh]

I had the Neo Guide Pant. They're not very durable. With light use, I wore holes in the scuff guards and one of the pockets.

[mall walker]

All in all, if you are on the bigger end of a size, I recommend sizing up. They zip open, breathe well, and Schoeller material is fantastic.

The Schoeller really is great. I have one of their first-run highest-end-at-the-time Dawn Patrol jackets (primarily Schoeller with some water/wind proofing on parts) and it's the shit. I'd love pants made out of it.

That said I've been in my TNF Freedom pants for a number of seasons now. They've held up great, they're warm enough for most any conditions, etc. They do run a bit hot for those late May / early June days, but I'm usually just wearing hiking pants at that point anyway.

[meter-man]

Thanks for all the commentary and guidance. In the end, I picked up an older (2014?) OR Trailbreaker from SFOTex. Size medium. I'm 6', 185#, 34 waist. They were incredible stretchy and felt like a soft shell. Although the waist was way too small for me in the size M, the rest of the pants fit well. Fit well for Euro style that is. I'm going to pass these along to a friend or back to someone on here.

I also picked up a pair of Trew Roams in size large in their pre-Black Friday sale. The pants rock. They feel like half the weight of the Trailbreaker, have incredible venting, and still have a 20k/40k waterproof breathable rating. Fit is solid too. Definitely a more athletic cut than the Trewth, but not as Euro as the Trailbreaker. Danny Noonan's description is 100% spot on.

One note: as compared to my old pair and new pair (via warranty) of Trewths, the Roams feel quite a bit less substantial. The Roams are so light it's hard for me to believe that they would stand up to nearly as much abuse as the Trewths have. Feels just about absolutely perfect for touring in all conditions!

I spent last season in the Trew Roam pants in the backcountry and really liked them. I have the Trewth Bibs as well as my daily bombers but found the touring pant super functional. They were definitely light, stretchy, and comfy to wear. Great pocket setup, and the breathability was incredible as well as having the cross venting ability. Fit was dead on for what I like, a little trimmer without being full on Euro, though I would like a little wider bottom opening if you are not in a total Enduro boot. Pics attached for reference of sizing (6'0, 180-185 in a Large). I personally loved the half bib style (though the waist was pretty enormous up top and really click suspenders).

Some little changed that could be made in new iterations but would have absolutely no hesitations in recommending them as a totally functioning piece of backcountry kit.

[kootenayskier]

Sold my OR trail breakers, and am now using Dynafit Chugach pants. They match my long and lean anatomy much better (longer in the cuff and don't expose my lower back when flexing), have all the pockets and zips in the right places, and the WS fabric hits a nice balance between weather protection, breathability and durability (the lowers on the trailbreakers are paper thin). The double zips on the cuff are better for screwing around with my Dynafit ultra lock buckles, but not as perfect/customized as I was hoping.

[LawndartGustav]

Sold my OR trail breakers, and am now using Dynafit Chugach pants. They match my long and lean anatomy much better (longer in the cuff and don't expose my lower back when flexing), have all the pockets and zips in the right places, and the WS fabric hits a nice balance between weather protection, breathability and durability (the lowers on the trailbreakers are paper thin). The double zips on the cuff are better for screwing around with my Dynafit ultra lock buckles, but not as perfect/customized as I was hoping.

I just got the Chugach pants as well. I think they'll be perfect for the most things. I used them in -14 Celsius and 10-15 meters/second head wind for the first tour of the year. That was the limit! I was sooo cold on the way down. It was the first time in 5 years that I've had my shell jacket on for the entire tour and at the top a my puffy and hot drink hardly helped.
I've done two more days with less wind and I love how much they breath, chose your long johns for the weather and go =)
I normally wear a 2013 Sweet Protection Supernaut pant with double vents and I love them but even double vents don't help on a tour if it isn't really windy.

So If it's spring or I'm doing something not involving lifts I'll choose the Chugach pants as long as the conditions isn't extreme and require a full shell pant =)

[Lindahl]

Check out the Mountain Equipment Mission pants. Woven softshell with membrane softshell on the knees and butt (waterproof). Thigh vents(!!!) and good pockets. Semi-euro fit.

[Power_Sauce]

Norrona lyngen driflex3. Very breathable for a membrane pant; full zips; comes in blue.

[cdubski]

Anyone used the strafe Cham or Cham 2? Thinking about trying them out. Already have schoeller for warmer/dryer days so looking for something to replace 12 year old 3 later gtex Mtn hardware bibs for the wetter days

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[meter-man]

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