Touring pants

[wilcox510]

Anyone try the Dynafit Chugach pants? Mostly made of windstopper with some non-membrane stretch woven areas. Seem pretty nice. Still can't quite figure out where Windstopper fits in the fabric spectrum. In the past I thought it was pretty much Goretex without seam tape or something, but some retail folks have told me its not. Who knows...

[TahoeJ]

I've got a couple of days in with a new pair of FlyLow Compound 2.0 pants and they're pretty great for BC use. Inside vents and full length outside vents without any mesh. The nylon they use is stretchy and accommodating which makes them more comfortable than other pants I've toured in. Definitely recommend them so far.

[Tele 'til You're Smelly]

go for a lighter color like tan.

softshells are always black for some reason, heats up with the sunshine.

early summer skiing on PNW glaciers tan pants are almost a must!

This! Plus 1) thin single-layer soft shell and 2) full or near-full side zips. If you do much warm spring touring anyway. Always warm enough for winter touring too I find (save the black goretex hardshell for winter lift skiing).

[I've seen black diamonds!]

Anyone try the Dynafit Chugach pants? Mostly made of windstopper with some non-membrane stretch woven areas. Seem pretty nice. Still can't quite figure out where Windstopper fits in the fabric spectrum. In the past I thought it was pretty much Goretex without seam tape or something, but some retail folks have told me its not. Who knows...

Simple answer: Old windstopper was goretex without taped seams (usually). New windstopper is eVent without taped seams (usually).

The name has been applied to a variety of fabrics that don't act the same.

[northeastpow]

Picked up a pair of Arc Stinger Bibs for the season, one of the best bibs I've used. Gore Pro is breathable and lightweight as ever, a bit noisy, but that's any 3-layer material. Fit is perfect, Large at 6'2", 200lbs, not too baggy for touring and still room to layer for a cold day on the mountain. Wish the bib had the coverage over the chest of their Sabre Bib, but not a deal breaker.

[zombinate]

anyone have expierience with the brand Eider? seem mostly euro, but the big "R" is carrying them. Anyway their Swift Pants look pretty alright. Windstopper uppers with gore lowers (built in gaiters). Outer venting. Look like a great touring option, and a great shell for Fatbiking too (cause that's how I roll).

http://www.eider.com/en/products/fal...-hybrid-pant-m

[meter-man]

Anyone with hot new touring pants for this upcoming season? Haven't seen too many new entries recently... Looking for softshell or very breathable bibs or pants (already have a bombproof Trewth for full 3-layer).

The following seem like the best options (for me anyway):

Trew Roam (20mm WP/40mm breathable)
OR Trailbreaker (3 layer bottom/softshell thighs)
Flylow Compound (full Neoshell)

What am I missing?
Other Flylow?
Pattaguch?
Freeride Systems?
Other small co's?

[sfotex]

Anyone with hot new touring pants for this upcoming season? Haven't seen too many new entries recently... Looking for softshell or very breathable bibs or pants (already have a bombproof Trewth for full 3-layer).

OR Trailbreaker (3 layer bottom/softshell thighs)

Just bought my 2nd pair. I wore mine about 90% of the time save for a few super cold windy days.
What size are you looking for?

[summit]

IMO hardshells are cooler than softshell, particularly when the hardshell has vent zips that manufacturers have decided softshell garments have no need of.

[dwaller]

Anyone with hot new touring pants for this upcoming season?
Other small co's?

Was just looking at the Dynafit Mercury yesterday and the Aeon. Would like to hear some feedback on those if anyone has worn them. I run hot in the skintrack, need something cool.

[LightRanger]

BD Dawn Patrol.

[meter-man]

BD Dawn Patrol.

I thought they stopped selling those, but guess I was wrong. How's the waterproofness? Do you pant legs freeze up? How hot/cool are they? Mix of midwinter and spring (but have zip off dork shorts for the hottest of days).

IMO hardshells are cooler than softshell, particularly when the hardshell has vent zips that manufacturers have decided softshell garments have no need of.

Zips are a requirement - preferably full length.

Was just looking at the Dynafit Mercury yesterday and the Aeon. Would like to hear some feedback on those if anyone has worn them. I run hot in the skintrack, need something cool.

Never seen these. Look interesting.

Just bought my 2nd pair. I wore mine about 90% of the time save for a few super cold windy days.
What size are you looking for?

Size 33-34 waist, 31 inseam. M or L, depending on the manu/cut. Looking to move them to a new home?

[LightRanger]

^^^ I don't have them. I ultimately decided to keep my Guide Pants and picked up a pair of lightweight near-softshell stretchy climbing pants for warmer activities. The Guide Pants are actually fairly comfortable to warmer temps, but I just wish the pair I had wasn't black.

Whatever the current version of the Patagonia Guide pant is should be on your list too.

[wilcox510]

If you're looking at Fly Low stuff I think the IQ pant might be a better true touring pant than the Compound Pant. I think they are made of a significantly lighter weight Neoshell. I'm interested in checking those out as well as the new version of the Trew Roam bibs

[Lindahl]

IMO hardshells are cooler than softshell, particularly when the hardshell has vent zips that manufacturers have decided softshell garments have no need of.

Cooler in some areas of the legs, hotter in other areas. Regardless of zips or not, I'm overall cooler and less sweaty most of the time in a thin softshell. Also, a few softshells have zips. Mountain Equipment has a pair like that. Haven't tried it yet though.

[meter-man]

If you're looking at Fly Low stuff I think the IQ pant might be a better true touring pant than the Compound Pant. I think they are made of a significantly lighter weight Neoshell. I'm interested in checking those out as well as the new version of the Trew Roam bibs

If you're a size L or XL, you're in luck! http://www.backcountry.com/flylow-gear-iq-pant-mens The pants look rad. I think they'd be too big for me though.

[alfajores]

BD Dawn Patrol.

Ahh, my alter ego has spoken. I have been rocking the dawn patrol (with suspenders) and they are pretty good. Minimal wind intrusion, awesome side zips, and almost no cuts as they are pretty cut resistant (skis, crampons).
I will say that they fit tight. I have the mediums and I would not recommend them for other 35" inseam people. Also, they are tight on the thighs and waist. The buttons above the fly are these light plastic snaps and the top one always pops when I get air. I have not had them freeze up, but they can get a little wet as the dwr seems like it is average. The pockets are a joke. Pocket zippers open easily with dynamic skiing. The cargo pocket not so much.

All in all, if you are on the bigger end of a size, I recommend sizing up. They zip open, breathe well, and Schoeller material is fantastic.

[wasatchback]

Sweet Protection Outlaw pant. Awesome soft shell pant.

[criscam]

IMO hardshells are cooler than softshell, particularly when the hardshell has vent zips that manufacturers have decided softshell garments have no need of.

Agreed. Have some older TNF hard shells w full side zips that I wear exclusively. 3x/year I wear a silk base underneath. During spring I just unzip and air it out. In the market for something similar as I've kinda destroyed the cuffs w crampons...

[Spooky]

Anyone with hot new touring pants for this upcoming season? Haven't seen too many new entries recently... Looking for softshell or very breathable bibs or pants (already have a bombproof Trewth for full 3-layer).

The following seem like the best options (for me anyway):

Trew Roam (20mm WP/40mm breathable)
OR Trailbreaker (3 layer bottom/softshell thighs)
Flylow Compound (full Neoshell)

What am I missing?
Other Flylow?
Pattaguch?
Freeride Systems?
Other small co's?

I wore Flylow compound pants all last season for resort and touring and loved them. Their IQ pants are definitely worth checking out for something lighter though, heard very good things.

[STLHD]

I really like the IQs in terms of breathability. But they're a little a baggier than I like for touring.

[m48f02]

The Arcteryx ProCline FL is great. Much better for touring than all gore-texpants out there. Breath well, have zipper-vents, and a nice snug fit. You can get them in both long and regular fit. Used them 50 days last season - the do seem to be very durable as well. Did do one mod - sewed a hook + zipper on the front pocket so that I can have my beacon in there.
Just remember to pack a sub-100-grams wind proof pant if you are going touring in the alpine on a windy day. That is the only downside with choosing soft shell, and not gore-tex when eating your lunch.

[gregL]

The Arcteryx ProCline FL is great.

I'm also a fan of the Procline FL and used it for most of my touring and some lift skiing last season.

[TahoeJ]

I wore Flylow compound pants all last season for resort and touring and loved them. Their IQ pants are definitely worth checking out for something lighter though, heard very good things.

Same here - the compound pants are a really great do-it-all option. And they aren't exactly heavy.

[harpo-the-skier]

I have pataguci and mammoth soft shells that work good. Key is to get a cuff that fits around your boots and holds tight.